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A new species in cultivation !!!

olivier971

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olivier971 Mentor

olivier971

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I'm quite sure it has never been cultivated (just one which come from those seeds)...

So you will never find what it is

But you can search ....

Some ideas ???

The seeds are 3-4 cm long

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Olivier
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John Case Grand Master

John Case

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Parajubaea coccoides?

John Case

Brentwood CA

Owner and curator of Hana Keu Garden

USDA Zone 9b more or less, Sunset Zone 14 in winter 9 in summer

"Its always exciting the first time you save the world. Its a real thrill!"

olivier971 Mentor

olivier971

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Parajubaea coccoides?

no, try again :lol:

Olivier
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aussiearoids Grand Master

aussiearoids

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Masoala kona :rolleyes:

Michael in palm paradise,

Tully, wet tropics in Australia, over 4 meters of rain every year.

Home of the Golden Gumboot, its over 8m high , our record annual rainfall.

olivier971 Mentor

olivier971

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Masoala kona :rolleyes:

No

Olivier
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Jeff Searle Grand Master

Jeff Searle

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Never in cultivation? This ought to be good.... :lol:

Searle Brothers Nursery Inc.

and The Rainforest Collection.

Southwest Ranches,Fl.

Moose Grand Master

Moose

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Queen Palm? :floor:

Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

Knnn Apprentice

Knnn

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Hyophorbe amaricaulis ?

Zone 5B ~ Central Kansas

olivier971 Mentor

olivier971

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Hyophorbe amaricaulis ?

no

Olivier
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rozpalm Mentor

rozpalm

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Neoveitchia brunnea

Ron

Wellington, Florida

Zone 11 in my mind

Zone 10a 9a in reality

13miles West of the Atlantic in Palm Beach County

newtothis Rising Star

newtothis

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last summer i picked up (what i thought was) butia capitata seeds that look lust like that.. mini coconuts with husks.

they still haven't germinated i'm about to throw them out

olivier971 Mentor

olivier971

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Neoveitchia brunnea

no

Olivier
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olivier971 Mentor

olivier971

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last summer i picked up (what i thought was) butia capitata seeds that look lust like that.. mini coconuts with husks.

they still haven't germinated i'm about to throw them out

no, not à Butia, sorry

Olivier
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Moose Grand Master

Moose

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Howea fuzzefeltia? :hmm:

Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

Jonathan Veteran

Jonathan

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last summer i picked up (what i thought was) butia capitata seeds that look lust like that.. mini coconuts with husks.

they still haven't germinated i'm about to throw them out

Don't throw them out, they can take a couple of years to germinate if they are Butia.

Put them somewhere really hot, with cooler night temperatures.

Cheers,

Jonathan

South Arm, Tasmania, Australia - 42° South

Mild oceanic climate, with coastal exposure.

 

Summer: 12°C (53°F) average min, to 21°C (70°F) average daily max. Up to 40°C (104°F max) rarely.

 

Winter: 6°C (43°F) average min, to 13°C (55°F) average daily max. Down to 0°C (32°F) occasionally, some light frost.

sergiskan Rising Star

sergiskan

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syagrus cocoides...??

chris.oz Mentor

chris.oz

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last summer i picked up (what i thought was) butia capitata seeds that look lust like that.. mini coconuts with husks.

they still haven't germinated i'm about to throw them out

Don't throw them out, they can take a couple of years to germinate if they are Butia.

Put them somewhere really hot, with cooler night temperatures.

Cheers,

Jonathan

Agreed Jonathan,

I have these germinating in the boots of my Butia, 4 years since it last flowered.

chris.oz

Bayside Melbourne 38 deg S. Winter Minimum 0 C over past 6 years

Yippee, the drought is over.

Kai Mentor

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Looks like some kind of Syagrus to me... Maybe schizophylla?

NEVER throw seeds away if they haven't gone rotten! Cocoid seeds can take years to germinate.

Seeds like this allways look very interesting to me :drool:

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Amsterdam,

The Netherlands

olivier971 Mentor

olivier971

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Looks like some kind of Syagrus to me... Maybe schizophylla?

NEVER throw seeds away if they haven't gone rotten! Cocoid seeds can take years to germinate.

Seeds like this allways look very interesting to me :drool:

YEES It's a Syagrus ... :drool:

But not cocoides, and not schizophylla ... :hmm:

Olivier
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Mark Heath Veteran

Mark Heath

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S.Psuedococos? When i had seen the seeds that was my first guess but they have been in cultivation for quite some time! Well, not heavily, but you can find them!

Orlando, Florida

zone 9b

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Al in Kona Grand Master

Al in Kona

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Syagrus vermicularis?

Hawaii Island (Big Island), leeward coast, 19 degrees N. latitude, south Kona mauka at approx. 380m (1,250 ft.) and about 1.6 km (1-mile) upslope from ocean.

 

No record of a hurricane passing over this island (yet!).  

Summer maximum rainfall - variable averaging 900-1150mm (35-45") - Perfect drainage on black volcanic rocky soil.  

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olivier971 Mentor

olivier971

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No, not pseudococos, not vermicularis

So i help you ..

This very rare palm, considered as vulnerable by UICN, is found in French Guiana ...

Olivier
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olivier971 Mentor

olivier971

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Syagrus stratincola?

YEEESSS, BINGO as we said in French !!! :lol:

It's Syagrus stratincola .. one of the only clumping Syagrus, and that has probably never been cultivated yet ...

Here is some pictures from www.tipalm.fr

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Olivier
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Moose Grand Master

Moose

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I would bet that Dr. Larry Noblick from Montgomery Botanical Center has secured this species and is growing on site.

Nice acquisition. :)

Ron.

Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

rozpalm Mentor

rozpalm

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I'll check but I am sure I know a grower that has a large one of these here in South Florida.

Ron

Wellington, Florida

Zone 11 in my mind

Zone 10a 9a in reality

13miles West of the Atlantic in Palm Beach County

tjwalters Veteran

tjwalters

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Syagrus stratincola?

YEEESSS, BINGO as we said in French !!! :lol:

It's Syagrus stratincola .. one of the only clumping Syagrus, and that has probably never been cultivated yet ...

So...do you just need my address so you can send some seeds? :unsure::lol:

Tom

Bowie, Maryland, USA - USDA z7a
hardiestpalms.com

bayside mike Community Regular

bayside mike

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Syagrus stratincola?

YEEESSS, BINGO as we said in French !!! :lol:

It's Syagrus stratincola .. one of the only clumping Syagrus, and that has probably never been cultivated yet ...

Here is some pictures from www.tipalm.fr

guy_syagrus_stratincola_plante_cultivee.jpg

guy_syagrus_stratincola_spadice.jpg

guy_syagrus_stratincola_feuillage.jpg

How did you get your logo on those pictures? It looks a lot like the ones on the PACSOA web site.

Bayside Tree Farms is located in Homestead Florida USA
(305) 245-9544

olivier971 Mentor

olivier971

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How did you get your logo on those pictures? It looks a lot like the ones on the PACSOA web site.

We gave some pictures at PACSOA last year in order to complete their database.

At the end of the page of Syagrus stratincola in PACSOA, you can read " Contributed by Tipalm' Society"

It's our pictures .... :lol:

Olivier
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This species is not yet cultivated at the Montgomery Fondation but we sent some seeds from this harvest to Larry Noblick. This is the very first time he is able to see this species that is restricted only to a few granitic mountains (called "Inselbergs") throuhougt the Guianas. Inselbergs are difficult to explore as they are like islands of rock surrounded by an ocean of pure wild amazon forest. All those seeds of Syagrus stratincola are from a single specimen cultivated in a private garden in Cayenne, French Guiana that is just reaching maturity this year. (the one on the photo posted by Olivier). This specimen is from a seed brought back by a botanist who when to an Inselberg a few years ago. As far as we know, germination of fresh seeds is fast and very easy. The Palm much ressemble Syagrus inajai, the orther species to be found wild in French Guiana, but has clumping habit. Fully grown garden specimens are not knwn for the moment (would anyone has that in cultivation, please, let us know!), but would certainly be gorgious! Seeds were given to various Ti-Palm’ members in French Guiana, Guadeloupe and Martinique and we’ll give regular news on the talks.

P.-O. ALBANO,

President of Ti-Palm' Society www.tipalm.fr

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Walter John Grand Master

Walter John

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rare = expensive.............usually. I like it, that makes 3 or 4 Syagrus I like now.

Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

Kim Grand Master

Kim

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I'll have to duck after I say this, but I can see why it hasn't been cultivated. Doesn't take my breath away...

P.S. If you're gong to throw something at me, make it Carpoxylon seed!!

Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
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gsn Veteran

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I'll have to duck after I say this, but I can see why it hasn't been cultivated. Doesn't take my breath away...

P.S. If you're gong to throw something at me, make it Carpoxylon seed!!

Kim,

After they throw them at you, WHAT are going to do with them??? Throw them at someone far away that has a chance of growing them? :lol:

Sorry I couldn't resist, from the other thread!

We also have palms I would love to have, that don't do well here in central Florida also, and Carpoxylon is one of them! :)

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Scott

Titusville, FL

1/2 mile from the Indian River

USDA Zone COLD

bayside mike Community Regular

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How did you get your logo on those pictures? It looks a lot like the ones on the PACSOA web site.

We gave some pictures at PACSOA last year in order to complete their database.

At the end of the page of Syagrus stratincola in PACSOA, you can read " Contributed by Tipalm' Society"

It's our pictures .... :lol:

I"m sorry if I seemed rude. Some people do stuff like that . Very nice pictures.

Bayside Tree Farms is located in Homestead Florida USA
(305) 245-9544

olivier971 Mentor

olivier971

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How did you get your logo on those pictures? It looks a lot like the ones on the PACSOA web site.

We gave some pictures at PACSOA last year in order to complete their database.

At the end of the page of Syagrus stratincola in PACSOA, you can read " Contributed by Tipalm' Society"

It's our pictures .... :lol:

I"m sorry if I seemed rude. Some people do stuff like that . Very nice pictures.

No problem ....

Ti-Palm' is a serious society :lol:

Olivier
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Walter John Grand Master

Walter John

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Bump!

Clayton at Utopia has a Syagrus clumper. Photos soon, I have to go and get dinner.

Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

Walter John Grand Master

Walter John

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Bump!

Clayton at Utopia has a Syagrus clumper. Photos soon, I have to go and get dinner.

It looks similar to the one in this thread so why not show you which could quite possibly be another Syagrus clumper all together. I spoke to Clayton and he thought it might be Syagrus sp stenopetlata..?

Here's the photos.

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Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

Walter John Grand Master

Walter John

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More of the same palm above.

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Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

Walter John Grand Master

Walter John

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I found one more. So what does everyone think ?

These could look good mixed with other palms and tropical type looking plants. I think there must be heaps of different Syagrus in South America in spots not yet identified. Probably more Euterpes etc.

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Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

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