Cycas debaoensis & petrea pictures

[deezpalms]

I've had the petrea for a few months but I just got the debaoensis yesterday. Anyone have these or any experience with them?

Here's a few pictures of the leaf detail of the Cycas debaoensis aka the fishtail cycad

[deezpalms]

And here's a picture of the caudex and hairy petiole.

[deezpalms]

Here's a couple of the Cycas petrea or Loei cycad

[deezpalms]

And last the onion like caudex

[RainForestt Robert]

Dave, how much did the C. debaoensis set you back?  Wish I could get my hands on one, but unless seed is available I'm out of luck.

Robert

[tropicalb]

LOL....

i know where you've been Dave....

[PALM MOD]

Dave,

There are those who are going to say the moderator should move this thread out of the palm section. However, I had to have one of those C. debaoensis the second I saw them. So, I'll let this thread "hang out" here for awhile.

I didn't believe the leaves got as big as I was told until I saw a few pics on the web. I can't wait to see how this plant will look under cultivation.

[deezpalms]

(IPSPTModerator @ Nov. 11 2006,16:32)

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Dave,

There are those who are going to say the moderator should move this thread out of the palm section. However, I had to have one of those C. debaoensis the second I saw them. So, I'll let this thread "hang out" here for awhile.

I didn't believe the leaves got as big as I was told until I saw a few pics on the web. I can't wait to see how this plant will look under cultivation.

Sorry dean. I was just very excited to get the debao pics up.

[Tad]

swank, really swank!!!!! that is what trophy hunters would refer to as boone and crockett!!!! very nice indeed.

[deezpalms]

(tropicalb @ Nov. 11 2006,15:55)

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LOL....

i know where you've been Dave....

each of them came from different sources. do you know both of whom I got them from? As far as I know there are only 2 people that have any debaoensis this big in california. I got mine from someone in Fallbrook for a very resonable price, especially for being such a rare and spendy plant.

[Kris]

Dear DeezPalm  

beautiful stills & that cycas close-up is superb !

the entire garden looks neat and the pool appears

quite refreshing to me_WoW

i did see some germination pots & root trainers in your

garden,it appears you have lots of patience like our

forum menbers_but not me since my seedlings &

saplings are all damaged by squriels ,my pets &

some die due to damping off.  

thanks for sharing those lovely garden stills.

Love,

Kris.

[deezpalms]

so is there anyone here who is growing these besides me?? I'm really curious to find out any growth rate info on the debaoensis if anyone has any to share.

[Matt in SD]

It's funny, the only two cycads I've ever grown are Cycas debaoensis and petrea.  I sold the petrea last year.  

Last winter my debaoensis was seriously suffering in a pot outdoors, the soil went bad I think.  I was pretty sure it was near death anyways, so in the middle of winter, I bare-rooted it, trimmed any questionable looking roots, soaked in Daconil and put it in the ground (thanks for the advice Phil).  It has flushed since then and seems pretty healthy now.  

So given that a plant near death can be shocked during the winter and recover, I'd imagine this will be a good grower here.  Mine is much smaller than yours still, but I have high hopes.

Oh, and my plant gets close to full sun, at least in winter and seems fine with it.

Matt

[deezpalms]

thanks Matt!

[Jeff Searle]

Dave,

   What a nice looking cycad( Cycas debaoensis). I'm really impressed. I tend to lean towards Encephalartos and my favorite group is the genus,Zamia. But, I would love to own one of these and plant it in my yard someday.

[Zac in NC]

You are a lucky SOB Dave. That debaoensis is a real looker. I had a friend who has some petraea in the ground near Raleigh and they lived through a couple of winters, but a cold one took them out. They were beautiful. Now I really want a debaoensis. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Zac

[Phil]

I've grown at least 150,000 cycads over the past several decades and feel that C. daboensis is one of the most exciting species I've ever seen.  We are really lucky that this species has become available (for a while).  Perhaps some day we'll have reliable domestic seeds.

Phil

[deezpalms]

Yes Phil, I feel the same way. I've got quite a few cycads (obviously not as many as you) and the debaoensis is one I've wanted for a very long time ever since I first heard of the species. The leaf structure is just amazing almost like a fishtail palm.

[merrill]

Does Cycas debaoensis have any cold hardiness?  Coldhardiness is probably too much to ask for in such an unusual plant.

[deezpalms]

It does grow in pretty high elevations so it should have decent cold tollerance. Anyone else got any answers?

[Dypsisdean]

Check this out. Says, "probably quite cold tolerant"

http://www.pacsoa.org.au/cycads/Cycas/debaoensis.html

[caleno]

Here is a plant at our garden in Colombia, this was taken December of last year, and apparently the plant is now coning (female) for the first time.

[deezpalms]

very nice plant there caleno!! muchas gracias!

[MattyB]

I toured Bob Hastings garden this weekend and he had a little dabao in a bird cage to prevent gofers from eating it.

[Utopia Palms]

Hi all

       I think you will find I could be wrong but these cycas look like C,Multipinnata and not Debaoensis maybe check with loran whitelock ? both sp are very sort after one or the other in any colection would be very fine,mine should cone this year so with any luck we could get a few seeds..

[MattyB]

I thought Caleno's looked like C. multipinata but I'm a beginner so I wouldn't know for sure.

[Carlo Morici]

(deezpalms @ Nov. 16 2006,05:26)

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It does grow in pretty high elevations so it should have decent cold tollerance. Anyone else got any answers?

A friend, Jose Manuel grows one (or more?) 3-4 years old Cycas debaoensis in La Laguna, Tenerife, at 550 m asl (some 1600feet), and it does well unprotected.

The place is "medianía" (middle height land): frostless but very cool, with short, dry hot summers, with just 16 C of Average Annual Temperature. It is a good climate for the cooler growing palms (e.g. Rhopalostylis, Howea). Veitchia joannis fruits, Cocos nucifera and Delonix regia die. Roystonea regia looks decent only in autumn.

Carlo

[deezpalms]

(Utopia Palms @ Nov. 27 2006,14:48)

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Hi all

       I think you will find I could be wrong but these cycas look like C,Multipinnata and not Debaoensis maybe check with loran whitelock ? both sp are very sort after one or the other in any colection would be very fine,mine should cone this year so with any luck we could get a few seeds..

I can't speak for caleno but I know that mine is 100% debaoensis from the leaf structure down to the hairy petiole. When it comes down to it, the leaf structure is quite different between multipinnata and debaoensis.