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I have no clue where thise Orlando temps are coming from but those are not official or even correct. There was no freeze in Nov and there is no way Bay Lake was 28 when MCO was 37. The airport his 32 in Jan and about 6 to 8 more nights in mid to upper 30s. I've had no freeze yet in Belle Isle but my coconut has lower frond damage like Eric. The biggest hit was the 37 in Nov because it was a shock as there had been no cool down coming out of summer. I saw damage show up soon after that.
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I’ve only protected them from the recent hard freeze . They have been exposed to upper 20s about 2-3X this winter already no issues. I’m gambling a bit more with them this weekend (26-27°) expected Sunday night. I imagine they should be fine 🙌🤞
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How Bout a 'Color' thread?
happypalms replied to realarch's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDE
Licuala orbicularis in the Coffs Harbour botanical gardens.
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For smaller palms, etc I will use reflective bubble roll insulation., pots, and mulch I usually wrap it around the entire palm, in a cylindrical shape, somtimes 2-4 layers. Or I cut it to wrap it around the inside of a large pot, say 25 G pot. Then I also make sure that the bottom of the pot is coveted by this insulation. Then on the outside I use weather resistant duct tape to cover the pot drain holes I usually will bury the palm in mulch up to the bottom portion of the spear. Then I cover the plant with the pot, and pile more mulch around the base of the overturned pot. Stick some rocks on top to hold it down from strong winds. For me this seems to work well for temps down into the low teens. Never had any damage to leaves, etc. when I cover the entire plant. I'll take some pics tomorrow morning of a few palms that I currently have covered this way. - Matt
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So they are predicting 24-25 Sat nite for Altamonte Springs. I have about 100 different palms in my yard. Most of my tender specimens are in the back under good Southern Live Oak canopy. I'm leaving most things uncovered but protecting a few things; Cyrtostachys elegans x renda Chrysalidocarpus lutescens 'Nana' Clinostigma savoryanum Heterospathe negrosensis Licuala kunsteri Sabinaria magnifica (this is its 2nd winter, last year took 33f unprotected with minimal damage) Also several rare Pandanus will get covered The only palms that have any burn so far is my Cocos nucifera 'Green Malayan' (some slight burn) and my Aiphanes horrida x minima (light burn on 2 lower leaves, its always been foliage tender but grows back quickly)
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I was last at Epcot about 2 weeks ago and no damage on any tender foliage or palms. This past week we had a couple nights at 32-34 with frost one morning. I am in Altamonte Springs about 12 miles north of downtown Orlando and I hadn't had any damage until this week but only my bananas in open area and some light burn on a couple Travelers Tree leaves. My neighbors Tropical Almond dropped most of its leaves and my other neighbors mango trees has some foliage burn and the flowers are wilted. But my Ficus lyrata hasnt damaged yet nor Monstera in an open location. But thats gonna change.
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Those are totally Magnolia grandiflora. Many times older specimens get spindly and sparse. I thnk it's our nutrient poor sandy soil. The only cultivar that really holds a good shape and dense growth as they get older is 'D.D. Blanchard'.
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This really puts it in perspective. It isn't just here in the CONUS this winter.
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OK let us know if it does that would be crazy!
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Honestly I see it as a very good possibility. I'll be up all night so if it happens I'll see it lol
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Yes, fair enough. It got very cold here last week as well, but I was in the Philippines so everything in the ground is definitely toast and not coming back. For my little greenhouse, I made a terracotta heater with some vegetable shortening, candle wicks, and terracotta pots to at least keep it from freezing if the power goes out and my little electric heater stops running.
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Santa Paula Calif. 1912
Jim in Los Altos replied to bruce Steele's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDE
Found this on that street in Santa Paula which probably is the wrong street number but those Phoenix canariensis would be about the same age as the ones in your black and white photo.
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Anything that directly touches the box or bucket has a good chance of burn. But my testing with a plain cardboard box over a palm showed 5 or so degrees warmer in the box than outside. That was using an optical thermometer outside and inside. It might be even more useful with a windy night. It works, even if it's not perfect.
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Imagine you actually got that. That would be crazy
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Some models have a band of anow forming right over me tommorow night and giving me 1 to 2 inches of snow lmao. Tampa area
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I’m impressed. What did you do to protect them? We’ve had a few cold weeks, I thought it would take a toll on anything crownshafted.
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A This is crazy. This winter Has been crazy!!
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This winter has been brutal
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Heliconia Thread
thyerr01 replied to Dartolution's topic in TROPICAL LOOKING PLANTS - Other Than Palms
This week? Back to back nights of -5C last week ended things here. All of the large Heliconias just got a layer of pine nuggets, but the stems are done. Two of the smaller ones in raised beds got covered, one with xmas lights. I haven't uncovered them all week as we are getting -3C again tomorrow. I will unwrap them right after that though. -
Maybe 25-26° briefly when mature. This and my purpurea are my most sensitive zone push . Hoping I can get both to have around 5-7’ of solid “wood” before they die out.
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The cold is really digging in this winter across the northern hemisphere. All 3 continents - North America, Europe and Asia have seen record cold now. First Asia with the record breaking Siberian cold in Nov/Dec. This January it has been Canada and USA with record breaking cold. Scandinavia has had it as well in late December / early January. Now a new record cold wave is about to begin in Eastern Europe as well.
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I took this pic of a friend Vai Nu'usa in western Samoa on the island of Upolo. I thought it was a different species, but Dr. Hodel said it was B. insularis. They were quite prolific there up by Stevenson's place on the mountain. in deep jungle
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Santa Paula Calif. 1912
bruce Steele replied to bruce Steele's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDE
Sorry I don’t have the address . Somewhere on West Telegraph close to Santa Paula. -
There's been 2 or 3 overnight lows down to 29°F. Daytime temps have been mostly in the 40°s & 50°s.
