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An interesting challenging plant you have chosen to grow indoors. Never tried them indoors, but they grow very easily outdoors.

Fishlips in Port Canaveral has some pretty untouched adonidia facing East. More evidence the wind was one of the biggest offenders.

Currently 87-88 degrees in Uptown Houston. Feels like a real scorcher. Rooftop pools and palms sound pretty enticing right now

Only safely viewable from a distance

Indeed a (possibly) once in a lifetime buy here on the West Coast! Thank you again for helping me snag THREE of them! One sadly didn’t make it, but the other two are doing great. 🎉

Absolutely. 😊 The alba I posted a pic of went through 9°F and 13°F undamaged protected with a string of lights and a sheet in 2021. Then in 2022 it was dug out and moved 250 miles to the south (and complained a lot) but it is chugging along. Here's additional freeze data:

Set seed all the time. @Robert Cade Ross has some seedlings collected from the boots I think

He would do mail orders as well, you would have loved some the stuff he had in rare varieties of palms!

Lol it was in my inbox. I am not a Unitarian 😂 No offense if anyone is a Unitarian.

The next 10 days looks like solid warmth, day and night, so hopefully new growth will start pushing. A few things have. I am rather shocked my coconut is pushing growth after that brutal cold. I had already planned to put a nice ornamental striped sugarcane in its spot! My L. saribus is a green petiole form. We do have several of the maroon forms at Leu and they did surprisingly well. It was 24-25F at Leu and they are showing no or very minor damage. In the past they had more damage at higher temps.

Yeah that’s the question. My gut feel is that they’re more like Bismarckia, Schippia etc where they need significant heat even though they are capable of withstanding freezes. Unfortunately as you know the USDA zones are close to useless for us, I basically ignore them. That being said, I’d recommend keeping them and giving them a go. In general for species that aren’t super rare, I think there’s more to be gained by pushing the limits than sending a few up here where they may not even thrive anyway. I also suspect they’ll be the type of palm that is hardier when it gets a bit of size as opposed to when they’re small seedlings. Coccothrinax and Schippia seem to be a bit like this for me.

Tried contacting Ed, never got a reply.

Here's the location: https://maps.app.goo.gl/EmNbTa9KTqfK35pa9 https://maps.app.goo.gl/Rs1QoVKpebPKBnXA8 These (4 palms) were planted by visitors as seedlings and they supposedly had died but here they are.

In 2015 while I was working in california I bought some patrick schaffer hybrids. I was inspired by the gardens of the fathers of butia hybrids DIck Douglas(NorCal) and Merrill Wilcox(FL). I wanted some jubaea genetics in my yard but best knowledge said pure jube would not be happy here. My favorite patrick hybrid, the one that I did not give away, was a (Bx J)xJ. I had a coupole BxJ from patrick and this one just looked different, even as a small seedling in a 4" pot. It is a BxJ mother tree pollinated by a jubaea. I had it in a small 7g container for years and then upgraded it to a 20 gallon in 2020. I feared it would not deal with florida humidity and wet soil so I kept it in that 20 gal pot and infrequently watered it. I tried to give it away, no takers from the coconut and adonidia crowd in my neighborhood. I even offered it here on palmtalk, surely a nice cold tolerant hybrid would work somewhere up in northern florida or there abouts, no takers. It grew slowly over the years and a year and a half(?) ago I decided I didn't want a palm prisoner in a container so I decided to put it in the ground in a dry spot where I had removed an invasive ficus benjamina I had mistakenly planted. Well, it seems as if the palm just loved this winter and pushed out a bunch of new growth. It grows faster in winter. I also have a BxJ with 3-4' trunk that is a nice palm but this one has a symmetric beauty that I love. Now I am very happy I didnt give it away. Its not a fussy palm, I planted it in a spot where it will intercept cold NE winds off the nearby pond Anybody else have a butia, Jubaea, or syagrus hybrid out there, I know Patrick made a bunch of different hybrids, show yours if you have one.

This was the coldest winter in Southeast Florida since 1989. However, it was not as cold. PBIA recorded two nights with low temperatures of 31F for a total of three (3) hours under freezing. It is heartbreaking to see the losses suffered by edge pushers throughout the central part of the state. I would urge them to replant and not be surprised about how many things come back. to that end, I took pictures today of the non-hybrid red sealing wax palms planted in a building just off Phipps Plaza in PB. They were planted three (3) years ago without special care and are still surviving (not thriving).

Haha, yep it doesn't get any easier to remember the millions of things we forget everyday! I was just reading Eric in Orlando's freeze thread, sounds like C alba breezed through unscathed, so clearly absolute low temps are not the problem for me. Still curious if there are any in San Francisco...anyone?

Congratulations!!!!!! Good for you!

Hell yeah man! Congratulations!

Yes, there is a distinct possibility of maybe one more frost event down to the gulf states in mid-March. I've seen individual model members / runs have it going anywhere from west Texas to Georgia. At this time I'd say freeze potential at our latitudes will be 5-10%. At ~ 16 days out it's far too early to call any shots / odds. I'd wait another week before being comfortable with that forecast ! -Matt

Friday update from New Smyrna Beach on the barrier island...... Will post photos next time. Looks like my Pandanus is done. To be honest - it's taken some pretty big hits from 2 hurricanes in previous years so hasn't really been the Pandanus it once was, anyway. Still sad to see her go. I'm a little more optimistic today seeing some green remaining in the center bud areas of most all my palms. Including the 3 big Coconuts. I gave them a liquid feed a week ago and just now hit everything with a granular. I truly think it will help. I'll hit them again with some Banrot this weekend. So far they've gotten 2 Copper fungicide treatments and on the Coconuts only a Banrot drench very early on. Regardless of what survives - it's going to be ugly for a couple years, that's for sure!

They said the same things about me, but I don't have a nursery. Congratulations!

My bad, I knew in the past the prunifera and alba were south american, just getting old I guess. Mine is planted in high drainage sandy soil with some clay under at 2'. This and perhaps bismarckia and sabal uresana are my most ignored palms, carewise. They get little fertilizer, sometimes none, but I do have auto sprinkler heads that water 2-3x a week. No manual watering or watering outside the irrigation system like most of my other palms. We are right now in a severe drought since september, worst in 30 years, and I may break down and ensure it gets some water, as it is looking dried out to my eyes. That is surely part of the reason for wax loss this year, which seems extreme in my memory. The pop up spinklers are blocked the past few years due to big growth from my serenoa repens which are 12' tall in some places and plenty thick. I was wondering why this palm appeared less glaucous than I remember. Now I may have a clue. FYI I will correct in augtust 2011 it was a freshly planted palm with about 3' trunk and not happy. Here it is freshly planted in visibly sandy soil with some mulch on top

@Eric in Orlando, this is great info especially with an update in a few months for survival reports (hopefully mostly survival). Very similar temps to the event we experienced here in February 2021. And with this event (like ours) there's a couple of surprises both positive and negative. Is your Livistona saribus the green petiole form?

Severe= mostly burned but still some green 100%= no green

Thanks!