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Looking really nice!

Chambeyronia macrocarpa seeds take C about two years to ripen.

@dimitriskedikogloy nice to meet you! Hmm, I wonder if those apparent beach front Washies are actually growing in regular soil under the sand? What do you think @Darold Petty @Jim in Los Altos and @SeanK?

Zamia tuerckheimii Is nice. Here is a photo of mine,

Lady Palms are one of those palms I wish were cold hardy, to me it has that look that it should be 😂

Here’s a photo of Santa Cruz Beach just south of the SF Bay Area and, as you can see, there are lots of Washingtonia growing in the beach sand.

Areca vestaria sp.

Gotcha, thanks! Nowhere I can reach did I find those multiples but these are overhead. I had a tag in a batch of about 130 cycads I bought labelled Cycas multipinnata and the pot with that tag is not right so I wonder if they thought this was C multipinnata?

Then you can get into F1 F2 and so on, but I can’t see myself around long enough for some backcrossing projects!

@Dan64 agreed! Here's a different view, showing the first split and second split = Micholitzii. That first split doesn't exist on Bifida. Bifida will have a single bifid leaf coming off the rachis, not a pair from the same spot.

Just a quick drive-by shot of a nice corner planting in Schertz:

Really love those bismarkias, foxtails, other very marginal choices. That uresana is pretty awesome though. I really wish those were more available.

The bottom circle is the first split and the top circle is the second split. I agree with Cycas micholitzii

Not a tree palm, but Allagoptera arenaria is from beachfront habitat.

I guess they do okay as I've seen them at California beaches as well.

Sorry for jacking this thread folks! So I could not find any with more than a single split unless I’m missing something?

chopped off the top half of the trunks today, they smelled like rotting carcasses, gosh I couldn’t stand that smell 😂. they’re still there, half the trunk still solid. I think these can resprout from roots so as I said not giving up until it’s truly done for. good luck with yours as well having fruit sounds nice

Ah yes, if you are planning to leave them on the plants for months then yes, that's a factor. I only put them on on the nights when frost is predicted and then remove them next day. It's tedious and annoying indeed but necessary. You are in zone 8A I see so things are very different than in my 9B. I hope the new fleece solves all issues for you!

The thing is, I placed an order December 6th and only 2 have arrived so far out of the 7 that I bought. I used Planket in the past and they all dry-rotted, I assume from the sun and as far as I know, Agfabric are the only ones I've seen to be UV-stabilized. I got the 1.5oz 84"x72" fabric and it has a drawstring to make things easier when I put the washies in ponytails and drop it over. I'm done with the nights of having to struggle to tie sheets and keep them secured. 😂

Here's an example from my yard. This one is a Micholitzii - the leaf comes off the rachis and splits, then splits a second time. A different frond from the same plant, you can see the leaflet comes out and splits immediately, then splits again further down the leaf: And a different Micholitzii. I outlined the splits in red. You can see it splits immediately at the rachis, then in the bottom it splits again. This is consistent with the species drawings, showing at a minimum 2 splits, and sometimes 3 or 4 splits per set of leaves coming off the rachis: A true Bifida will only have leaves with a single split, like these with the red lines drawn: Bifida is almost unknown in cultivation, like true Debaoensis. Sometimes the leaflets near the end of the frond are single splits, but then transition to double, triple or quad splits further down. The quad splits in your photo would make yours a Micholitzii, if I'm seeing it correctly.

Thanks for posting those great pictures of your blooming aloes, Cape Garrett! My own in-ground Aloe vaombe is blooming for the first time, but is weeks 'behind' yours, here in colder, interior NorCal!

It’s probably a matter of definition. As C macrocarpa var macrocarpa and C macrocarpa var hookeri are formally different varieties, they are considered genetically distinct so a cross between the two would be a varietal hybrid. Generally in horticulture I think the word hybrid is reserved for interspecific crosses but technically it can be used for a cross between any two genetically distinct parents.

Sounds perfect . Thank you

Is it still considered a hybrid with a cross of two different varieties of the same species? In your case Chambeyronia macrocarpa var. hookerii and Chambeyronia macrocarpa var. macrocarpa. Just curious...🤔

No not yet, but they are both flowering again now, this time pretty well much identical in timing. So it will be interesting if they get any seeds!