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It’s so mutilated, it’s hard to believe that a plant that I can grow easily in nj would look so bad in central FL, but of course, there could be other reasons. I assumed it was a type of ficus due to the extensive damage and shriveled leaves. It’s impossible to miss, visible in the queue for Tomorrowland Speedway.
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Planted this at least 26 years ago. Been growing GREAT until the CRB invasiion in 2013. Been treating the trunk and ground with a systemic to kill the beetles. Seemed to be working for a year or two, but now poor baby has no new frond sticking straight up. Time will tell if any will grow anymore. Healthy in 2008 Not looking to good right now
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I went back and did a quick check and it’s much worse than I imagined, numerous nights in the 30’s since November, many freezes. Here’s the ones that stick out the most:
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I believe that’s a Magnolia grandiflora pictured there. I think there’s some Ficus species interspersed throughout Adventureland.
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I need some help with this little sabal minor cherooke I got as a present (first time having this palm)
Tosiek_Poland replied to Tosiek_Poland's topic in PALMS IN POTS
@Than It just needs to survive till march, according to some sources it will be much warmer than its supposed to be reaching 15-20C -
So they haven't even had an air frost yet then, if they have only seen mid 30's. Surprised there is much damage showing then on trees and stuff. Most things do okay as long as it doesn't dip below freezing.
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Looks like a queen to me. I get plenty popping up still from a tree I cut down like 10 years ago.
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The Disney parks are about 20 miles west south west of downtown Orlando and are at least a few degrees colder. The Orlando city limits actually cut one of the parking lots in half for Disney Springs adjacent to Central Casting off i4. My guess is that they have seen mid thirties already. But they’ve gotten hit by a number of cold fronts going back to November.
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This popped up a few years ago and didn't have the heart to cut it down. Growing in pretty much shade. Got 3 Queen's close by. Could it be one? Or something that washed down from something farther in the back?
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Isaac Dawley home in Santa Paula. House and Palms still standing or they where when my grandmother showed me where it was. She was born there but it has long since been someone else’s farm.
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How cold has Orlando already got down to this spell, ahead of the weekend blitz? 25F?
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Last month I went up on the roof to clean to solar panels on my water heater. Thought it was a good time to "Look Around". Palms in EVERY photo.
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Balaka….share your info
tim_brissy_13 replied to realarch's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDE
Here’s B seemannii at Singapore Botanic Hardens, photo taken last year. Like many others in the Prychospermatinae family they have those wide praemorse leaflets that just give off the tropical vibe. -
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I need some help with this little sabal minor cherooke I got as a present (first time having this palm)
Than replied to Tosiek_Poland's topic in PALMS IN POTS
No, don't trim anything. Make sure it is in bright light, as bright as possible, but not direct sun. Make sure the soil doesn't dry completely. When the top layer is dry, water. They may survive, may not, time will tell. Others here with more experience may help more. -
I need some help with this little sabal minor cherooke I got as a present (first time having this palm)
Tosiek_Poland replied to Tosiek_Poland's topic in PALMS IN POTS
@Than lets say semi-direct sun maybe these could be 2 plants and air is not that dry. Do you think I should trim the browning parts? -
I’ve seen Disney put covers on the flowers a few times in the past, they also will wrap large swathes of tropicals in some sort of dense netting. I’m guessing they have some root heating system built in to some of the more tender, large-scale plantings. However a lot of ficus and the kapoks are already damaged before the real cold has even arrived. I don’t know what will be left of them. But I’ve watched the ficus at Magic Kingdom diminish.
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is it clustering?
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There’s a ton of stuff at Disney and Universal that will be seriously damaged if this event pans out the way it’s forecast. I know Eric in Orlando is more up to speed on what’s there at Disney especially but this is what I can think of off the top of my head. -Coconut palms and a lot of warm zone 10 tropical vegetation at Volcano bay at Universal. I had heard from employees who worked there in Jan 2018 that they had heaters on the Cocos. Not sure how that will work with 35 mph winds and these temps -I recall at the new hotel they built at Disneys Polynesian Resort some good sized Satakentia planted on the backside facing the lake. And of course there’s just so many tender tropicals at the Polynesian already. -Numerous Pandanus around the Disney Parks: one notable one in Tomorrowland at Magic Kingdom and a few in Avatar land at Animal Kingdom. -Plants like Shefflera arboricola, Copperleaf/Acalypha, Duranta erecta are used as a standard shrub hedges all around the parks and Orlando in general. They will for sure come back from larger branches or the base of the plant if dieback occurs but wow that would be a lot of brown foliage to look at for a little while. -The common stuff like Bottle/Spindle Palms, Croton, Adonidia, Ficus, Wodyetia, Philodendron, and Monstera will probably be quite a sore sight. -Heliconia and Gingers, and Strelitzia are practically used as foundation plants in the Orlando area nowadays. Many will probably have to start from the ground up after this. -I’m curious how Royal Poincianas will do. I don’t recall reports of high damage in these from Jan 2018 but maybe I forget. I know I’ve seen some good sized ones in the Orlando area that didn’t seem to show evidence of significant past damage. -One of the saving graces though is that it’s been so long since freezes like this in the Orlando and other areas that some of these plants are so large their size is in their favor to better withstand this freeze event.
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Differentiating between Phoenix sylvestris and Phoenix dactylifera
Yort replied to Farid Belbachir's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDE
It seems the silver date palm most people grow as Phoenix sylvestris now has a new name: Phoenix roxburghii. If I understand correctly the green Phoenix pusilla from Sri Lanka and south India is now called Phoenix silvestris. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/394488357_Revisiting_Rheede's_'Katou-Indel'_and_the_discovery_of_a_new_species_of_Phoenix_Arecaceae_from_India -
Aceraceae started following For some, Florida drought is getting very "extreme"
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Been driving around the Naples area and even though this winter the fronts haven’t been as typically linear with the cold being west of the gulf, as in the previous four years I’ve owned a home here, there’s clear demarcations driving west on Pine Ridge going into Golden Gate proper. The cocos about 1.5 miles west of i75 are really looking iffy(there’s several very prominent tall ones that are visible). Theres a home with a fairly large(for FL standards) plumeria that has taken a beating and is mostly defoliated. Took some photos around Baker Park which is much closer to the coast than my home(my location is typically 2F colder during the nights and 1-2F warmer during the days) and things are visibly unhappy.
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I need some help with this little sabal minor cherooke I got as a present (first time having this palm)
Than replied to Tosiek_Poland's topic in PALMS IN POTS
This looks like two plants next to each other. I never had a sabal but once a month in such a small pot with such light medium sounds too little. Is the air very dry in the room? Is it under direct sun? It shouldn't. -
I've had a couple of Darwin experiments with the above. So far in my experience, Alfredii is fine down to 24.6F and frost. Some leaf burn but nothing major. Macrocarpa = dead in the open, some burn under cover but ok. They died of bud rot. I have several survivors of 26-27F that were under canopy and generally recovered just fine. Oliviformis = dead, but all were barely 2' tall in the ground and without cover. Likely bud rot, but hard to say. I've never tried a large one. Pembana = lost some trunks at 25F with frost, easily defoliated like Lutescens. I had one cluster completely die from trunk rots after the 25F frost. I have two more clusters that are 3-5' tall, we shall see!!!
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Meanwhile, for comparison up in the PNW, my Washingtonia are under cover from this. It rained cats n dogs all last night. *A warm front drawing in moist, subtropical air continues to produce rain, at times heavy, across East Vancouver Island today. The heavy rain will ease to showers this afternoon.
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Branching palm ID requested
Stevetoad replied to Farid Belbachir's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDE
I agree 100%. looks very LIvistona but probably is a washy. -
Last chance for the Deppea, my green waste bin is picked up each Thursday and this plant may be in it next week.
