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76F/24.4C at 11:30. Daytime high of 81F/27.2C forecasted.

I would also look into local laws and sand dune protections. They may not be able to be touched. If after that research you think it should be fine, sabals are hard to transplant. Good luck!

Florida is a fantastic place to visit botanical gardens any time of the year. I plan to visit more of the smaller and off the beaten path collections this year. I appreciate the folks who got the collection going many years ago, and the locals that seek to protect the specialness of these places once responsibility needs to change hands. Palma Sola Botanical Park is located within a neighborhood fairly The map shows both exposure to the coast but also good reference for non-Floridians to see other nearby towns referenced in the forums palmasola.org to learn more. I’ll revisit over time and add to this thread. There are a few sections of the gardens I didn’t photograph as i had my dog with me and attention spilt. Very few tags, but the Ptychopsperma was labeled microcarpum. The upright pinnate palm with 2’ trunk was labeled Cyphophoenix nucele I asked for ID on another thread of the very spiny palm and it’s a Metroxylon vitiense. I get excited every time i see something I can’t ID and so glad i got some quick assistance with ID here ! The palmate clumping palm is a Hyphaene coriacea

No, please no "Europe" forum. That's like making a "USA" forum. There is huge variety of climates in Europe. My climate is almost identical to that of inland California but has nothing in common with the climate of France, Germany or the UK. Those countries have climates that are much cooler and more humid, perhaps smth like N. Carolina. It would make more sense from a horticultural POV to create Mediterranean, Humid Sub-tropical (aka central Florida), Tropical (S. Florida and Hawaii) etc forums. It's the climate that matters, not abstract geographical divisions.

Wow. Thank you everyone for sharing your experience, guidance, and suggestions. I have read each response and have carefully incorporated all the procedures as much as I can. At this point, time will be the indicator if things are going good or bad. I will keep everyone here up to speed if any significant changes occur.

Happy to report that my 2 papaya trees are still alive going into january. They’ve survived 2 or 3 drops into the low 30s, albeit with a frost cloth, but i’m really hopeful that if the extremes don’t get too much worse they have a good chance to see next spring. Also in regards to previous discussions, I too can say papayas don’t do too well inside. Last winter I had my now trees in a pot and they barely grew at all for like 3 months. Once planted in ground they exploded with growth. Now I have 1 seedling in a pot that I dug up. Which btw digging up young papayas is a very risky operation, they respond poorly to root disturbances. But anyway it’s alive, just hanging on to one leaf 😂.

Personally I really enjoy learning from those in other regions. What they can and cannot grow, the favored species, the challenges others face, the palms they desire but cannot obtain. I especially savor everyone's photos of their palms and gardens. One can get a lot of inspiration from the forums. It's amazing to me to see very tropical-looking gardens in Germany and Switzerland, Greece and the UK! Australians have so many climates, plus challenges to importing anything. Before learning about it here, I was unaware of the significant differences between growing palms in Florida compared to California. Curiosity drives my participation on Palmtalk. My very first post here back in 2005 was asking about a "palm" I had seen in Tanzania, which wasn't a palm at all, but a Ravenala madagascariensis (Traveler's Palm). So I've come a long way since then, primarily due to being obsessed with Palmtalk for years. Yes, I am in the camp that prefers the botanical name to be at least mentioned once when discussing a palm, so that others are not confused by the identity of the palm. We have a worldwide reach here, and as has already been said, common names are only good in one's immediate area and create unnecessary confusion. Get involved with your local fellow palm people to expand your sources of information and palms, and continue to participate here as well. You won't regret it.

Low success rate as any roots cut will die back and have to regrow. For highest success when palm is growing and temps approach 80F plus dig a third around palm cutting roots and wait a couple months for these roots to start regrowing then either attempt transplant or better yet do another 1/3 cut and wait

Ideally I would like a male plant! (Confirming mine is a female)

@Darold Petty Sounds good, Darold. Hopefully I will have some seedlings for you to choose from but if not, I can sell you one of my larger specimens that is in the ground.

The board admins should consider putting specific forums for Fl, Europe, CA

@sonoranfans hits the mark on his post! Years ago , here in Southern California , the big box store had so many varieties . A lot were not suited for our area or marginal at best . I remember a load of Licuala Grandis out in full sun at the nursery section of Lowe’s . I told the person working in the nursery that they won’t survive winter , make horrible house plants , and certainly don’t like direct sun unless in the high humidity of the tropics. He just blew it off and did the “eyes roll” on me. This happened again at Home Depot with some young Hyophorbe that are very marginal here . After that , I gave up! Now , it’s just the standard palms , nothing special . Occasionally a Trachycarpus …that’s it. Harry

Yes , Washingtonia Robusta , possibly hybrid . They get big in a hurry! I have gotten rid of most of the volunteers I get in my yard . I have one that is reaching for the heavens . It is my token naturalized palm. Harry I put it down towards the bottom of my hill. ‘It is best viewed from up on our deck!🙂

Not shallow water, which gets warmed up by sun more quickly, instead abruptly deep water with cold currents. Deep water is not a positive asset in such case. For how long did you reside in Nea Makri? Schinias is shallow water to my knowledge. Nevertheless Nea Makri is by no means 10B, as one may conclude from your own experience.

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Absolutely 😁. I'm happy for you and those who are enjoying temperatures above freezing.🤗

Hey! I have some relatives in Texas, in San Antonio area and I want to know, which pines that grow there could also grow here in Brežice, zone 8a? Hopefully they can survive our drough in summer.

Oh is the sea shallow near you? I see. I thought you'd never get frost there! Canopy is also so important; I had no frost under the orange trees where many sensitive plants are, like my Kentia. Let's see if they survive. Hopefully next year most of my garden will be in shade. When I lived in Nea Makri near the sea, the minimum I ever saw was 2 C. So I thought it is the normal yearly minimum for coastal Attica.

Haha, this hobby is making us lose our common sense! Here too it's cloudy and rainy, which means that tonight the temperature will be much warmer. I have already removed all covers from the plants. No more cold expected in the next week.

Actually I do have frost, only this time was not my turn. Sea plays a significant role, if there are warm currents and if water is not deep at an extended distance. Otherwise (which is sadly my case) significance of sea proximity diminishes dramatically.

The other 2, a kentia and a spindle palm are at St. James's park. It will be very interesting to see how these 2 are doing during the winter in London.

I was just looking of some photos from our trip to London in the summer and I remembered I took these photos of some palms there. The first is at the natural history museum and it looks like a sabal

Lake Constance actually 5.2 C / 41,36 F.