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Awesome pictures! I love the color and overall look of them. I’m note-taking and creating a wish list. This info. is wonderful. Thanks again!

I would like to share my seeds with someone who really needs them. Price is not important.

Yes, that would be the Blue ( ranges from grayish green to blue -y / slivery hued actually ) " highland " form of Sabal uresana.. Here are some shots of specimens in a well known garden in Tucson.. Been a few years since i last looked them over so the size of them in the shots isn't current. Some consider them slow but, if treated right once established, they pick up speed at a decent pace. NO issues w/ our heat or cooler winter nights. Green form is supposedly a bit more tender but, as you can see below, they're doing fine in Tucson ..which can be a bit cooler than we are during the winter ..and see a dusting to 2 or so inches of snow every so often. I myself are a sucker for the recurved fronds of this species. Has that " almost a feather leaf -type palm / tropical but tough looking " look. Fits in perfectly with a leafy / flowery tropical looking landscape, or the tougher " desert look " kind of landscape. Blue form on the left, Green / coastal form on the right.. Both do fine here. ..Brahea armata is another excellent for the area blue -toned palm option that doesn't get quite as massive as Bismarckia. Kind of slow to start off and better to start with smaller specimens vs. gambling with really big sized options, IMO ( roots can be a bit touchy when disturbed) but, treated right, they progress at a steady pace once established after planting. REALLY nice, blindingly blue specimen grown in the same garden as the Sabal uresana specimens.. Some other Brahea sps out there that work well here too include: Brahea aculeata, brandegeei, calcarea, dulcis, ..and some others from both eastern and southern Mexico. Rare and harder to find than B. armata, but just as neat and worth any time you might spend tracking down, if interesting enough to pursue.

Your seeds are priceless! 😀 Or should I say that you forgot to list a price...

Any update on how these are doing in 2026??

Zamia purpurea is sold out!

That is a great advice but I fear the constant humidity in the sphagnum moss for P. Ridleyii's might not be the best for it. Regardless, thanks for the tip and I will try that on my more common species. Honolulu ... geez why not grow them outside? That is a pipe dream destination for me. I guess if I lived there, eventually I would bring my garden indoors. Cheers Tin

Yes, there is truth in the " a person repeatedly doing something doomed to fail each time = you may be legit crazy " idea but, Perfectly acceptable to be a bit nervous about pulling the trigger on an unknown, esp. if the experience with is new / you're just starting off. That said, like you mentioned, how do you know, for yourself, -for sure- < emphasize: For Sure > just how far you can push your own plant / climate -related boundaries if you don't push a bit / here and there??. Can't do that if you always play it safe / are too afraid to think outside a box. Kings grow so fast that you could start from seed and have decent sized specimen(s) moving along in a few years. No need to start off with something huge.. Doing that ...is a few shades of crazy, *** My Own Opinion on that only.. lol. Never been too impatient to start from seed, or on the smaller / cheaper side. Better lessons gained in going that route, anyway.

I feel like suckering palms are a great choice for borderline areas. Suckers will likely live on and you wont have to completely replant. Sucks to lose the tallies though.

There's more out there somewhere. I'm sure of it. The hunt will continue.

My first year here I bought a couple of 5' Adonidia that were sold as Archontophoenix. I wrapped them in a string of mini Christmas lights their first winter in the ground and they sailed through 27°F without damage. The following winter I didn't bother to protect them and 27°F killed them. They look a lot alike as juveniles!

Sabal etonia (Scrub Palmetto) seeds for sale in the Azores. Pico island. I have several dozen seeds still on the plant. Take a look at the photo.

Sabal etonia (Scrub Palmetto) seeds for sale in the Azores. Pico island. I have several dozen seeds still on the plant. Take a look at the photo(s).

I do get what you’re saying. I would hate to devote time and money to see it ruined in one cold snap. But how do you know the hardiness of a plant unless you test it. Boundaries were meant to be pushed. Seeing a tropical garden in Hawaii, nice, but not impressive. Seeing a tropical garden in a zone where its “not possible” is impressive. There’s a guy on YouTube called Jeff the tropical garden guy, he has all kinds of tropicals in modesto. Im hesitant myself because im a complete novice. Not an experienced palm grower.

Thank you all! If I’m understanding correctly, there is a blue or gray Sabal?😲 That would be stunning! I have a very nice Bismarck between a mule and a Mexican fan and wish I had not planted them so close together ( that’s what happens when you don’t know what you’re doing☹️) but I love the contrast. Hopefully they will all begin to grow and stretch to various heights and it will look like I knew what I was doing!🤣

How low did the temperatures go? The lowest recorded temperature where I live was 28 degrees about 19 years ago in a historic freeze that hit LA. That was in 2007, that year even Santa Monica hit 32, which is zone 10b.

I appreciate the offer but there's literally hundreds of seeds I could collect here. A local grower has a really cool planting of about a dozen mature decora in two rows about 6' from each other. Each pair lean into each other forming a really cool canopy. I'll have to take a photo of it next time I am there. 😊 In my garden I have 4 decora plus two mariae x decora and a rigida x decora! First pic is my largest decora and second is the mariae x decora I grew from seed. Note the red color from the mariae parent but unfortunately the color doesn't last into adulthood.

Ohh dear, Clutch them peach toned pearls.. a frond burning frost or freeze ....Might... happen ...some day.... <-- = fear tactic. ..I hear an city sized Asteroid might fall from the sky into my neighborhood at 10 tonight / Biggest n' baddest Volcano erupts to bury us all ..Tomorrow at noon.. Don't go steppin on cracks , or touchin the neighbor's Black Cat.. 😱 🤦🏽‍♂️ Gonna go talk to the manager about a refund if that Asteroid doesn't come, lol Numerous King Palms around the Bay Area that both survived and continue to thrive ..cue the big, overly dramatic Gasp, ..since the last big freeze back in ......1989... ..And they look GREAT too. < More gasping > Could there be another big freeze like that out there ..sometime... in the future? sure.. ..Kings ..and the Royal that has been growing since -at least- 2013 in my old neighborhood out there.. will likely survive it ..when ever... ( if ever ) it happens. Pygmy Dates can have their fronds torched by the sun / heat here during the summer, just as easily as getting singed during any rare frost /freeze events we might see. Should we never grow them? ..i think not. ..Oh and ..perfectionism -any thing? is an deeply, OCD - altered state of mind ..Not reality.

I'm on the east coast of Florida just below Daytona Beach - so borderline 9a-9b, right? I have a wide array of palms here and just want to say out of all my crown shaft palms, my Kings (Archontophoenix cunninghamiana) held up better in the freeze than all others that were affected. Every single one has already put out a new green frond already and some don't really have much browning. Some were planted as 7 gallons and a few were in 15's. Here is a triangular configuration I planted to create a theme that started in 7's and now are in the 25' height range.

No joke Troy! I’d love to see these in your garden I’m sure we can get it done!

More carnage. This time from the Areca Palm that was here when I bought the house 30 years ago. Has plenty of suckers underneath so not dead but those nice lofty swaying trunks look like they are a goner......

Not mildew. Could it be residue from something you sprayed on it?

You can grow King palms in full sun, they do adjust. They just need more water if temps are above 80 especially. I find King's difficult to get started which is why I thought my experience would be useful to others. Once they get going, they usually thrive. Personally, I am not a zone pusher. I won't plant a zone 11 palm in zone 10b because I know one night, it's gonna be toast. Been there, done that. I can't handle years of diligent care just to have it destroyed or severely damaged throughout the next season. But probably most in this forum are enthusiasts who are zone pushers beyond the natural habitat, but it's good to know what you are getting into. Many nurseries do spec this palm at a low of 30, which is quite low, and that is zone 10a. That means it can survive, but it will sustain damage. The problem is, you can have frost starting at 36 degrees, so it depends on many factors. Wind, elevation, humidity, etc.. Obviously heavy frost can exist at 30 to 32 degrees. It's not ideal at a true 9b zone. These palms are native to the rain forest areas of Australia

My gardener said a few of his clients have them in full sun. There’s a mature royal palm in San Jose. Here’s a mature coconut in palm desert that I believe was cut down. But I get the sense everyone thinks you can only grow palms on the coast.

If i had a dollar for all the bad advise i have heard from " supposed " " plant experts " at X Y and Z nurseries through the years, i'd own he Americas, Top to bottom, lol... Years ago, back in San Jose, i'd decided to think beyond the mold and plant a type of tree i knew would survive up there, based upon lots of depth -y research that it seems many people are too lazy to do. When i went to order it from a nursery whose owner was a ...supposed... expert, he jeered that the tree i was after would be killed in a.. ..what would equate to a minor frost... in my part of town. I casually rolled my eyes while laughing under breath as i walked out after being sure my tree was ordered Tree has been in the ground, doing it's thing w/out ANY issues, INC laughing off even the more moderate cold events it has seen since planting it, since i planted it back in ....2012. More recently, a nursery person, ..one whose thoughts on many things i place a reasonable deg of basic trust in, expressed that another tree i'd discussed was too frost sensitive for them to regularly stock / bring in < for specific request > ..yet, ..i have a -constantly expanding- list of every specimen of that same tree sp. that i have observed, with my own eyes, growing locally since i moved here ( 2016 ) Many other folks locally have been growing that same tree in other parts of town, w/out major issue, for a longer time period than that. On my end, ..took that a step further and planted a specimen of a sister species ( ..of that tree ) which ..is assumed.. to be sensitive to cold here. Hasn't flinched since i planted it a few years ago. Point is ..while some information shared here and elsewhere in the plant world can be more valuable than gold, other info ..even if it sounds " confident "/ legit? Is as trustworthy as trying to pet a Wolverine. When it comes to plants ..and pretty much everything else... doesn't matter what someone might tell me, no matter how good it might sound, i'm always doing my own homework behind the scenes.. the kind that logs many hours of laser focused, careful study, rather than going the the lazy / easy route: AI generated info? / thoughts on things from a living person whose views are squarely conservatively hemmed in / shaped?.. highly suspect and to be critically analyzed before putting any faith in. Some info, that is so blatantly bad, like this " advise " ?.. Trash. Instant " toss in the dumpster and ignite" material. You really admire Kings? figure out where they might do best for you on your property, esp. with any extra TLC you might have to provide at times, ..if you even have to at all... and give them a try.. Pretty sure i saw what looked like a couple kings peeking up from someone's property off in the distance when filling up at a gas station near Magic Mtn. during our trip up to San Jose back in Dec. If you can ever find one, Foxtail / Veitchia X " Foxy Lady " might be something to do some diligent detective work on.