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It's hardy to 24 per palmpedia, but I suspect you'll have more trouble with the humidity than with cold if you'll be growing it in Alabama. These are notoriously easy to kill in hot, humid climates.

Since the cold snap back in November, the NOAA records show 35F at the airport. There is a band north of the city that tends to get inordinately cold, extending west into Hillsborough County. The station links here are among the coldest: Lakeland: 29.3F KFLLAKEL680 29.8F KFLLAKEL584 Polk City: 29.3F KFLPOLKC50 29.2F KFLPOLKC93 Dade City: 29.3F KFLDADEC183 Plant City: 28.9F KFLPLANT226 29.7F KFLPLANT336 29.1F KFLPLANT334 This map shows the area where the stations with low temperatures congregate: I ran across these Facebook discussions recently: https://www.facebook.com/groups/548974998586256/posts/3369851689831892/ https://www.facebook.com/groups/548974998586256/posts/3386679438149117/ The reply about the temperature never going under 20F wasn't too surprising, because that is what the records show. Some of the other replies about the temperature being identical throughout the city were surprising, considering the availability of this data. GHCND_USW00012883_2025-11-1.pdf

All i can say is yep, perfectly ok to disagree .. ….Otoh, with 432k followers ….wayyy more than the total # of members here, …and counting by the day … i think someone i know is doing a bang up job of getting plenty of new, younger, ( .. and older, too ) green behind the ears skin into the plant and natural fields world game using those dreaded “ proper “ terms …rather than stooping to the disconnected / “ dumbing down “ / home depot level of intelligence ( lack there of in that respect ) to spark new interest / engagement …here ... or anywhere else. . …isn't just his bold, no holds barred honest views of / on humanity …good chunk of it anyway… that people tune in for / respect / find tremendous, refreshing inspiration in. If i were 15-20 again / had kids in that age range who were just starting to really get their plant / nature related - anything feet wet for the first time, he'd be among the first go - to folks id go to / direct my kids to observe and study for relevant perspective in our pursuit of credible knowledge gained. As far as cars, fun to learn the technical stuff rather than the watered down ( on purpose ) version. Even if to me, cars are just hunks of metal with round, rubbah shoes …often wayy over priced …on purpose, that get me out into the field 10 or 1000 miles away to look at plants, bugs ..and/ or rattlesnakes .. let alone further expand my knowledge and perspective of the world i am but a puzzle piece within while simply taking in views while hiking somewhere. Far better than any dumbed down / acceptance of a dumbed down version of …anything…

You have CRB in Calf? I change the lures on the first Saturday of each month. I also leave the old one on for another month just incase it has something left.

I wish I could find as many relevant stuff to my zone in this forum as someone who lives in cfla can! I always felt that members from Florida have access to huge amounts of information among this forum's threads and I'm a bit jealous of them. They seem to be the luckiest in this respect. Coming from Europe I have a hard time detecting info that is relevant to me here sometimes but overall I have learned so much here from people living in areas with similar climate to mine but also from those who don't! The amount of knowledge I've gathered from palmtalk is incredible. I do realise that sometimes things I post don't get as much attention because many people live in areas with vastly different climates and conditions than mine so perhaps they find my observations, troubles or questions irrelevant. I've accepted the fact. I also don't pay as much attention to the experience of people living in say, Hawaii for the same reason, although i love travelling through the photos of their stunning gardens. Efortlessly scrolling through lots of threads with relevant info sounds dreamy indeed but in real life we have to use the Search function to find what we need. Thankfully, it's easy to do even for the not so tech savvy. If it helps, my climate and even soil type are identical to those of Clearlake, northern California! 😁 Perhaps I should add this in my profile info so more American friends can relate and compare. When it comes to using scientific names I second every word @Silas_Sancona has written.

I'm really sorry, y'all are just gonna have to zoom in on this one because it's the only way I can get it all in one pic. It's a hybrid I bought from @Scott W a while ago. It's a sago crossed with I don't remember what, it's pushing single leaf flushes but they're huge. And yes the little one is dying but there's another one right behind it. I just reported it into a 1 gallon today. Bench is 5 feet wide for reference. I thought it was throwing a pup, but it turned out to be another mystery Sabal. Maybe I recycled the dirt at some point? Who knows. Anyway, behold another tiny plant taking up massive amounts of space.

Would be even cooler if someone puts a hat on an Adonidia merilli!

Snagged a couple of free Sagos sitting by the curb tonight. Potted them up once I got home.

There were several vendors at the recent South Florida Palm Society sale at Fairchild Gardens that had them. I picked a quart sized one up for $180. The vendor list showing who has them is available here...

Well , Dave , after all the drama we went through I was happy to see it go. The chunks that the guys were throwing in the box trailer were super heavy . It was still blowing a gale up here . I paid them , shook their hands , and thanked them over and over. It is 9:35 pm and STILL blowing hard . I keep checking on everything. This is gonna take a while to get that visual out of my mind. I can’t even imagine what you went through when yours came down and turned your van into a taco. I can’t stress enough how dangerous these are when they get big. The ground was not muddy or anything , the roots just ripped out of the base of the palm , no stump left. The part that makes me feel bad is that @DoomsDave had warned me months ago , even sent pics of his that came down. I just thought it would be ok until it flowered because it was pushing out huge , dark green fronds ….no inflorescence at all . Healthy by all appearances. Harry

Will be interesting to see what the next couple of nights brings. I'm assuming you have thermometers outside to capture the actual temperature they are exposed to? Are you planning to wrap them?

If you saved some of the wood from your fallen specimen you could try your hand!

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Definitely some of the wildest weather …over pretty short distances… someone can experience anywhere in the US .. if not further out in scope. Grew up knowing this pattern pretty well and experienced it first hand again while out there at the start of the month .. and was still pretty surprised by just how localized and extreme the effect is.. Wild is thinking about how hot it can get in these same areas come July and Aug. .. about as hot as we can get here at times just with a touch more humidity than we have - outside of raised humidity on stormy monsoon days. For perspective: Normally cool -ish ( this time of year ) 60s in San Jose, once any patchy morning marine layer / spill over from the valley cleared off while there felt fairly warm, compared to darn near freezing at 39\40 -something degs. In dreary, damp dense fog, in a hoodie / beanie that did nothing to block that type of chill while passing thru the central valley on the way to/ back from San Jose. Whole time i was driving “ in the fog “ out there, was thinking to myself “ this prolonged, day after day, cool / clammy, damp, and cloudy pattern cant be good for x y and z tropical - ish stuff in people’s gardens“. @Josue Diaz if you can, …and any damage you're seeing is currently confined to just the tips of effected specimens, get the plumeria under cover / covered, and get out the sulfur dust. hopefully any damage isn’ t serious / progresses to that stage before the wx pattern heads in a better direction for them.

I think Conan likes the color of that beautiful vessel. Harry

So glad to hear good karma came your way.

There’s a Palm Talker who liked to carve Caryota wood like this cup with Conan the fierce Guardian of the Garden for scale.

3 more of my mangos have sprouted. For real don't know where I'm gonna put all of them. Building another table and buying more lights feels inevitable.

Massive pic dump from today Man, I don't know what the hell to do with this cycad. I really don't. It's still throwing single leaf flushes, but just for perspective that bench is 5ft wide. Anyway I cleaned out the boxes, set the bench there, hung a light, and put a bunch of stuff in a tote and repotted the cycad. Yeah the one leaf looks dead but it's pushing another and I lowkey dread it cuz - where's it gonna go this time? It's like a damn vine. I *think* the bulb in the big pot on the left is the canna Pretoria from @N8ALLRIGHT. All the pots on the left are Sabal Louisiana separated from a community pot. Everything on the right are community pots of my first batch of Sabal minors. I still have 2 baggies I haven't even touched. Why tf did I plant these already? OG mango sprout. Guava cuttings are rooting. Red Ladies waiting on bigger pots. Kahukas and Mexican papayas. Community pot of the Mexican papayas is also blowing up (not pictured) Mango farm. They can't decide if they want humidity domes or not, and it's pissing me off so whatever, I'll just halfway throw stuff on top. 3 more of them have sprouted Condor dragonfruit is indeed flying. The others are rooting but this one is _growing_. Ok. So. This was full earlier. So between filling 2 buckets for humidity, mixing this up, and changing and refilling the ghetto humidifier, I carried 50 gallons of water in here. No wait, it was more cuz I watered bananas too. Anyway I got mad cardio today. So ok overshare or whatever. I'm shirtless in here and sweating. Walked outside. It's 35°F. Oof.

All ..inc a cross w/ ferox are a possibility but, looking at it, it reminds me alot of my Aloe sabaea .. even though my specimen of that rarely seen sp. got zapped before it could flower. San Marcos was the only nursery ( that i remember ) selling that sp when i purchased it back in 2012 …perhaps you ( Tracy ) were lucky enough to find someone else selling well hidden, under the radar specimens down there?? Regardless of exactly what it is, definitely unique.

Here’s a picture of my Caryota urens mixed in a crowd off the left of the hybrid Archontophoenix crown. They were planted as two and five gallons about 10-13 years before the picture was taken about 2017-2018.

If you get high winds remove your last urens standing. My sincere recommendation.

My Amherstia is beginning to flower, the chandelier flowers will begin to open soon. New magenta leaves hang limp initially before greening up.

Very attractive palm . It looks like your tropical climate is perfect for it. Harry

I am keeping an eye on my C. Obtusa . They are not as prone to falling as far as I know . Mine is short compared to the C. Urens that was there. I will give it a trim as there are some huge fronds that can catch wind and possibly break and hit something. I know the basic train of thought is to not trim before the fronds are brown but here , I trim the heck out of anything tall to reduce the risk of injury or property damage .The Santa Ana winds this time of year can easily reach hurricane force . The less wind age ( mass ) the better. Harry