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Some of the models were backing down a little on the veracity of cold in SW Florida, but this seems to have subsided they even added an additional night at 38 on Thursday. Has my location 1/4 mile west of i75 off Pine Ridge Rd now back down to 31F Monday. Still seeing Miami Int Airport hovering just over freezing 33F on Sunday. But SW Florida gets hit by every single damn cold front that makes it past central Florida. The difference in temps between my location and 90 miles across i75 are incredibly dramatic especially to the coast, 8-15F difference.

I have found that they need plenty of sun to flower in my climate.

So your lowest was 21 or 22. How long were you below freezing? How about the filifera?

Not all Sunrises need to be perfect ..to be perfect.

Thanks, that's exactly what I'll do. One thing I've noticed with Syagrus btw, is that the younger they are, the less time they need to settle; bigger specimens take forever. The one you gave me looks much happier than another one, bigger, that I bought. Yours is pushing a new leaf now while the bigger guy is quiet. So, i think I'll go for smaller size this time and that means less digging

Very brief dip to 25F this morning. Washies are not happy campers. Bizzy not showing any signs of damage but I know it will soon. Queens look mostly fine, front yard queen burn might be the result of that really dry wind. Backyard queen looks fine for now.

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Even slowing down the wind helps, I'm still covering and I'm going to try and set up a weed mat windbreak where the worst winds come in. I'm also hoping it generates some heat in the sun too and prevents the wind burn as much. Here the wind will be onshore, but this pattern causes physical damage in my yard too so I need to be ready for that also. And possible snowflakes🥶🤮.

With that strong of a low pressure forming that close to most of FL, there will be no escape from the wind, particularly Friday/Saturday nights. Sunday night will be much more calm. -Matt

Chamaedorea are beautiful . Most are fairly cool hardy and make great “ in between” palms to grow in the shade of the larger palms. Some can take a fair amount of sun too. They don’t take much room , depending on the species , but love water. I only have a few different ones now . When I moved here I had more but not enough shade to keep them alive. Like Dypsis , there are many to choose from. Harry What species is this? Oblongata? Thank you for sharing your garden , once again. A couple of C. Ernesti Augusti between a Rhopalostylus ( juvenile) and a C. Lutescens C. Radicalis volunteers popping up between the Pritchardia and a Caryota Mitis .

@Matthew92 I'm actually hoping for wind on Saturday morning, just to prevent frost from forming. In past cold fronts here it *seemed* as though the frost was a bigger cause of damage than just pure cold. That's just my observation, of course. Last night hit 29.6F with light frost. The airport recorded 35...

I have mine planted on a 6 foot high rockery that's got a backing of large rock and crushed rock. Basically free draining.

Hi im Alex and Im a palm enthusiast from Delmarva Ive been very interested of the north spreading of sabal minors and other cold hardy palms. Since alot are wildly being seen in southern virginia I always wondered if in the future some wild populations could grow here. Technically the area im looking at in Delmarva is climate zone 7b which is 5 to 10 degrees but from global warming that climate map is outdated it never goes under 10 in that area. Which is right suitable for needle palms or sabal minors. From other topics I read there seems to be some small populations spread out in south Delaware around Bethany that survive winter unaided. But whats also interesting is just the property plants businesses and peoples homes have Its becoming the new virginia beach Im starting to see way more sabal minors there. Im not suprised if theres so many now there able to make seeds and have birds spread them. Im very intrested in seeing if theres any small populations out in the wild in delmarva since no one besides us palm enthusiasts really researches and looks out for this stuff its possible there is. I am going to pokomoke river/stateforest to plant about 1000 seeds a year. Pokomoke seems like the best place since it mimics the north carolina south carolina rivers that sabal minors do grow near. Pokomoke on average seems to have more good places to plant then bad. Also as I stated its technically in 7b but it never goes below 10 there anymore thanks to climate change. its more like 8a now. With 2 percent rate to adulthood is about 20 palms per 1000 and 10 percent would be 100. 2 percent is low luck 5 is what ill most likly get and 10 is really lucky. If anyone you know or yourself has any info about secret wild sabal minor populations in delmarva please tell me or give me some location and photos that sounds weird but you know what i mean. And if anyones up to it buy some seeds and plant them in Pokomoke hopefully we can get a population there. I know write weird so sorry about that but yeah if anyone has any photos information or locations then definitely respond back. And go plant some seeds there

Richard as you know i love chamaedorea, thanks for sharing the photos, it's always a pleasure for me to read your posts

Portion of the Melbourne NWS discussion this morning. Yikes.. the wind on Saturday night will make the first night of this freeze much more damaging. Part I circled illustrates perfectly why this will be so impactful with the angle of the cold source of air.

Radiational freeze got to 23deg as I thought might happen. Snow like frost. I can always tell when it’s a hard freeze cause the leaves on my orange trees will curl slightly. Haven’t entered leaf-drop territory yet. Thankfully though this cold weather before the harder freeze this weekend ensures they are in relative dormancy.

Sunday lows expected to break records. RRW to the 1990 zone map

This morning's low temps.

Same here dropped to 31 then kind hovered there between 31 and 33 all night.

We recorded a wider spread for minimums throughout the property with readings 34F-36F. Around 1am, the temperature started climbing. Like Ray said, we got bailed out of one night.

At least 40% native soil in the mix. You can add sulphur pellets in to the deeper layers beneath the root ball. I usually dig about half the diameter of the root ball deeper and amend soil plus I try to loosen even deeper soil layers adding sulphur pellets at about 1/4 depth of root ball' s diameter.

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So that means very big beds! And I will add some native soil too. I don't see any other way; just planting Syagrus in the alkaline native soil won't be a good idea

Hey @Allen…I meant to ask how the storm treated your region. Were you able to keep your electricity? I know you are an excellent protector but a loss of electricity can cause problems. Hope everything is ok…

Go for it Than. If difference in quality and properties is enormous between fill in and surrounding soil, the risk of the palm refusing to spread and deepen its root system is really serious. And you need in our climate extended and deep root system for coping better both with drought and cold.