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No worries, Richard ! ❤️ This Kentia is a survivor in the Arbon/Stachen fortress! She is just toughening up for the upcoming spring. She sends her regards back to NSW!🤗

Thanks Richard ❤️, it`s the power of the Arbon/Stachen fortress! Everthing bears perfectly here.🤗

75F at 10:37AM headed for 80 /80+ ..and possibly some storms?? by later this afternoon. Morning look at the current True Color Satellite loop vis Nex Lab sets us up for the rest of the short - term forecast.. Well defined COL now situated just off the Baja Spur will advance east / northeast ward thru the day.. w/ Plenty of moisture advection north from Sonora already starting to generate shallow convection over far southern AZ.. What that leads to, for the valley? will depend on thoughts from yesterday. Still, this mornings' short term forecast from the NWS sums up the storm potential for this afternoon / evening as the low slides to our east.. While this isn't an optimal setup, as mentioned above, don't be shocked if a few stronger , ..but brief.. isolated storms pop up somewhere locally. Further out? Longer term thoughts from this mornings forecast discussion also lay out what is on the way after this system heads east.. As you can see, current thoughts from WX Underground have only upped the temps as we head into the start of next week. Overdone / biased toward a hotter outcome atm perhaps?? ..or.. could we really be looking at quite a stretch of out of season heat.. Crazy, early season sizzle isn't confined to this side of the Colorado River either.. Last paragraph from the San Diego NWS morning discussion is quite an eye popper. 25 -50% potential of 110 / 110+ readings for Palm Springs / Thermal? ..in mid - MARCH? = ..crazy. Some records to watch closely for the weekend / next week: Flirting with the 90s, up in the South Bay as well??.. Shower / storm potential today aside, ..sure lookin like WX related " March Madness " / the deafening sound of shattering records is about to get wild out here..

It's definitely a Butia species. Was it directly under a palm? What palms are in the area where you found it?

I am tired of wasting many years of my life realizing I was duped and sold wrong seeds and wrong plants. This was sent to me as a seedling by PAUL WITTE at PALMANIA.ES with a tag "Sabal etonia". I think he has been out of business for years now. It's a shame I've offered these seeds with a wrong tag, trusting the "professional", without knowing that. Bigfish, thank you for identifying my plant. Inform other hobbyists if you are sold wrong seed(ling)s.

Almost certainly a Sabal minor. Inflorescence is branched to 2 orders instead of 3 for etonia. Inflorescence is also extended past the leaves, whereas etonia is within the leaves. Leaves also look palmate to semi-costapalmate, as opposed to etonia being very costapalmate and covered with fibers. Not to mention seeds size, although I collected etonia seeds that were much smaller than average this year, so that's not always a good indicator. Just my $.02.

Zamia lucayana seeds. (First 2 pics) The leaves are very thick and stiff, unlike any others Zamias. I didn’t hand pollinate these, but they should be pure as there are 7 plants growing in a row. .75 each. Minimum 20 Seeds ($15). Zamia splendens, (3rd pic, in baggie, one cut open), new leaves pinkish $2.00 each minumum 10 seeds. (Only 50 available) Plus Shipping. Beachpalms@cfl.rr.com

What color frost cloth did you use and how long was it on? Sometimes unheated frost enclosures can trap cold and not allow the sun to warm the plant

This is one of the things that I try and tell people, that every cold event is different. Just because your palms survived at a certain temperature before doesn't mean its guaranteed that it will again. The conditions before, during and after the cold all matter. I'm so used to having palms damaged at temps that on paper they should have no issues with. In Oregon it was different because of the dampness in winter, and slow or minimal daily rebounds. Here in a hot southern zone 9B you would think this would be an optimal zone 9B with high daily rebounds, and good solar radiation. I am very far south. What I think hurt me this time was that everything was actively growing. Our winter had been in the 70s and 80s and then one blip and back up again. It wasn't only palms that were damaged, but other plants too. However they have better mechanisms for recovering from cold damage. I have a Stellar Ruby Magnolia that is rated to zone 7a, it was mostly burnt. Last year it took 19F during its first winter in the ground and was fine, this year its much bigger and it got fried at 23F and actually showed signs of damage from our first frost at 29F.

That's quite the damage at that temp. A little shocked

Got more rain yesterday, perhaps half an inch. Palms are happy and the ground is wet. The retention ponds water levels look about normal for this dry time of year, one foot below the grass dropoff line. This level may drain down over time as the water levels equilibrate int eh area, but the non irrigated grass is also turning green after being brown for months.

Agree, Butia oderata (capitata)

Nice to see that about Syagrus sancona. Any info on your Bactris sp. ? Especially the 2 hardy ones.

I'm on year 3 in the pot with mine and the majority of the trunk is still green. These don't seem to be all that fast growing in a pot, so If you get another I expect it will take a few years to go in the ground.

Getting them established is key, but is very hard to do when you don't have average winters. The three winters that I have been here have been have all been below my zone - 23/24 was 8B, 24/25 was 8B and 25/26 was 9A. Not so good considering I'm supposed to be a 9B zone. The crazy thing is that I did in fact protect the majority of my palms last year and this year because I am trying to get them established. Comments below in red Needle palms. 2/4 of damaged, one spear pulled the other cosmetic. Last year 3/4 were damaged. I’ll never understand why these keep getting called the most cold hardy palm. - Not Protected Sabal causiarum 2/2 damaged with over 50% burn - Fully Wrapped in Frost cloth Mule palm - 1/2 damaged. Some older fronds growing off and spear broke off but is pushing new growth Fully wrapped in frost cloth BxJ - 1/2 damaged - cosmetic damage to spear Fully wrapped in frost cloth Butia 2/3 damaged - cosmetic damage to spear - Trunks and spears wrapped in frost cloth Chamaerops humilis - bad spear pull, I ripped it out of the ground in disgust. Fully wrapped in frost cloth CIDP - cosmetic damage to spear Fully wrapped in frost cloth Livistona nitida- 2/2 have very bad damage and fungus on about 2 fronds plus emerging spear. No spear pull and new growth is healthy. The density of the growing point makes it impossible to see down in there. Fully wrapped in frost cloth The rest of the Sabals, Washingtonia, Trachycarpus, Serenoa and of course Chamaedorea radicalis were unharmed. The radicalis were not protected and were the only palms I've had the last two winters that I had a 100% success rate with. Even my Chamaedorea microspadix outperformed many of the truly cold hardy palms. On paper none of the palms I listed should be bothered by 23F and around 12 hours below freezing.

Everyone is doing well. 🤗

Buia is a genus. Butiagrus refers to a cross between The two genra, Butia and Syagrus. Normally the Syagrus involved is Syagrus romanzoffiana. The Buia would be whichever Butia species 96720 is growing.

is butia,no butiagrus

Thank you John!

This must be a very old tree. It is quite large. I would've considered Bombax but it did not have spines. I thought perhaps that because of its age, it had lost its spines. I am not particularly fond of the silk floss tree myself. They are grown in large quantities in this area. This tree did not cause me to believe that it was a silk floss. That stated, I believe you must be correct.

Here is an update on some of my palms. I worked this past week and got everything trimmed. Palms that were damaged but not on the updated list are still alive and firm but no active growth yet. PALMS Aiphanes horrida x minima (6’) -100% burn, already had about 25% burn from earlier cold, it always showed damage below about 35F every year but always quickly recovered, dead Archontophoenix cunninghamiana (20’) -major burn, new leaf opening Archontophoenix purpurea (7’)- 100% burn new leaf opening Arenga engleri (7’)- surprisingly burn on one leaf, several leaves burned, very delayed damage Brassiophoenix drymophoeoides (5’)- 100% burn dead Carpentaria acuminata x Adonidia merrillii (25’)- 100% burn no signs of growth yet Chrysalidocarpus psammophilus (3’)- 100% burn dead Cocos nucifera ‘Green Malayan’ (10’, 3’ trunk)- almost 100% burn but a few green leaflets and petioles still green, already push new growth, it already had about 20% burn from frost a couple weeks prior, cut out dead center growth and spear, no rot, now new growth is strongly pushing out! Euterpe edulis (10’, 5’)- both have 100% burn 10’ specimen is dead, 5’ opening new leaf Hyophorbe verschaffeltii (6’)- 100% burn new leaf opening Pinanga coronata (4’)- 100% burn main stem appears dead, suckers have new growth Pritchardia hillebrandii (3’)- moderate burn, still lots of green center spear pulled, cut and treated, new growth pushing out Ptychococcus lepidotus (5’)- 100% burn dead Ptychococcus paradoxus (6’)- 100% burn dead Ravenea rivularis (6’)- 100% burn new leaf opening Syagrus sancona (7’)- severe burn new leaf opening Wodhyethia bifurcata (4’)- 100% burn dead PANDANS Pandanus furcatus (15’)- 100% burn but green already pushing out removed all dead leaves, new growth pushing out Pandanus letocartiorum (decumbens) (2’)- 100% burn dead Pandanus penangensis (monotheca) (5’)- 100% burn dead Pandanus tectorius (spineless form) (3’)- 100% burn dead Pandanus tectorius, dwarf spineless variegated form)- 100% burn dead PALM-LIKE PLANTS Ravenala madagascariensis (15’)- 100% burn, new growth emerging Ravenala menahirana (Honkondambo) (3’)- 100% burn, new leaf emerging, new leaf emerged but petiole browned and collaped, cut and new growth emerging again Sphaeropteris cooperi (Cyathea) (10’)- 100% burn new fronds uncurling Strelitzia nicolai (10’)- 100% burn new growth emerging

Dioon spinulosum finally getting its first frond. Took over 3 months

Are we getting one last cold front? My 10 day shows a drop into the mid 40s next week. I’m hoping it doesn’t end up being anything too severe I already took a bunch of plants outside.

I think it grows to fast to be Butia but it is possible because I do have 3!!

I have seen quite large ones, and they are very tough trees taking a lot of cold weather and heat along with dry conditions. Not a tree to my liking I think it has white sap, not to sure if it’s poisonous. I was going to ask you if it had thorns?