The ultimate Lytocaryum Fan Society

[Z4Devil]

Dear all -

as mentioned in Gileno´s thread before it seems to me that it is necessary for minorities to found a separate platform from time to time.

Therefore I would ask you all if there is any further friend of this species who wants to join our inofficial community within PalmTalk.

The more we count in the more successfully we will be and the more exchange of experiences we get. When I foraged for themes and postings of Lytocaryum I knew there must have been a lot of users loving this rare palm. So what argues against our own community?

Gileno and me are looking forward to any new member / interested person - join us if you like it.

Best regards, Verena

Edited May 11, 2009 by Z4Devil

[Kai]

This is fun! Am I allready regarded as a member?

[Z4Devil]

Haaaa! Captured. Kai ... a little bit Gileno and me hoped you could be the first member who is answering to this thread. Great, member number 3.

You are not only a "registered" member now, you have entitlements to any news around the Lyto.

Joking aside ... we will post all necessary information for Lyto friends even if they not live in Brasilia. I am convinced a lot of users would like to know how to cultivate this tropical baby outside of the tropes.

My L. weddelianum has reached 140 cm ... a very good result for German climate conditions.

Love, Verena

[paulgila]

tag,verena.that is a good-looking lytocaryum.it must spend alot of time indoors but it looks great! i have a hard time keeping any plants alive inside the house,mostly due to neglect on my own part.

good luck with your plants!

p.kelapa

[Z4Devil]

@ pohonkelapa (beautiful name)

Thank you so much for your kind posting - any statement is appriciated, any friend of our tropical baby is welcome.

May I count you in to the fan society?

@ all who likes to join us: please refer your membership in your signature if possible. Any further member is a big step forward.

I think the time is coming to give some recommendations for all those who would like to cultivate Lytocaryum outside of zones like Brasilia specially, the tropes generally or the Western coast of the US.

It has to be clear that the challenge of a successfully cultivation of Lytocaryum means a lot of effort and patience. You should never assume that it is enough to water and fertilize.

A Lyto is fastidious, more than other palms. You have to know that normally it is growing in a 3rd or 4th level in the Brasilian boondocks. That means it doesn´t like full sun, the Lyto is a real shadow palm. Luminance is okay, but no full sun. Like every tropical plant luminance is of high importance. At this point the most people failed.

My Lytocaryums get the following special program:

1. Check the substratum it is planted in. Important is a good porousness for clime and water.

2. The Lyto does not like full sun; put it into a half-shade place to avoid burned feathers.

3. At least one time a day (I prefer 3 - 4 times) spray it with boiled water (note: Lyto hates water with scale parts)

4. Ensure that the temperature never drops to at least 22 °C.

My 3 Lytos confirm that the procedure is accepted and more than welcome.

Good luck and best regards, Verena

Edited May 11, 2009 by Z4Devil

[Kai]

I ordered my Lytocarium from England and this is the way it looked when it arrived and the next picture is the same plant now (a lttle over one year later):

I'm sorry but I don't have a flash on my camera, the picture got pretty cool anyway.

Cheers!

Kai

[Al in Kona]

I posted my desire to be included in your new 'Lytocaryum Fan Group' in the other thread, 'A new Lytocarum species'.

Al in Kona

[Z4Devil]

@ Kai: it doesn´t matter that the flash of the camera did not work. A specialist can see of which good condition the lyto is ... dark green feathers, no brown leaf apexes ... great. Not sure but your plant is of estimated 35 - 40 cm?

The kind of snapshot is stylish. Very good perspective with an unintentional but fantastic lighting.

@ Al in Kona: it is a pleasure for Gileno ant he rest of us to welcome you to our community. Every member is appriciated.

Best regards, Verena

PS: Due to an internal audit of my employeer that takes place tomorrow I have to go to sleep. In Germany it is half past midnight. I am looking forward to tomorrows day ... to be continued here.

Good night everybody

Edited May 11, 2009 by Z4Devil

[Jeff Searle]

Verena,

I have been growing Lytocaryum's for well over 15 years now. Actually I grow both species. But L. weddellianum is my favorite and I love when they get big enough in the pots ( 4') and they start to flower and then set good, viable seeds, which I then collect. Sooo, count me in as a member of this one-of-a-kind palm genus club.

L. weddellianum grows good here in South Florida when planted in the shade. And, they hold up pretty good as an interior palm as well.

I'm hoping to see many of these planted down in Brazil next year when I visit for the Biennial. I'm not sure if we'll be in the natural habitat range where their found though.

Jeff

[buffy]

I'd love a Butia x Lyto so I could join. I may grow one in a pot anyway and try making a cross myself someday.

[tjwalters]

I grew this one from seed. I have another from seed that doesn't look quite as good and is more yellow. Am I in?

[Kim]

Wow Tom, that looks great -- in Maryland no less!

[tjwalters]

Wow Tom, that looks great -- in Maryland no less!

Thanks. Summers outside, winters in the sun room.

[BS Man about Palms]

Can we join if we like Lytoagrus dickensonii too? (look for it, or better yet, heres the named plant)

[Z4Devil]

Good morning at all

@ Jeff: great news. It is a pleasure to read about more enthusiasts of this lovely palm. If you or anybody has some plant left over ... think of me.

Your are welcome like the others.

@ Buffy: we will engage in serious soul-searching ... and confirm your membership. A friendly welcome to you, too.

@ tjwalters: Uff. Do you have a clone of it? What a beautiful palm, very nice. With such a pic you are qualified and in, absolutely.

@ BS Man: should be no problem. You have to swear that you will love Lytocaryum the whole life along.

@ all: IMPORTANT: To show our identifcation with our new (and hopefully growing) society it would be helpful to mention the membership in your signature. Thank you very much.

Best regards, Verena

Edited May 12, 2009 by Z4Devil

[PalmatierMeg]

Hello Verena,

I will join. I have a 1 gallon L. wed. I grew from seed sent by Colin (palmsforpleasure). It was the only seedling to survive (until now). I had a 3 g several years ago but it didn't make it. It is supposed to do well here so I don't know why I've had so much trouble. This morning I took photos.

By the way, my mother was named Verena & that is also my middle name.

[Kai]

Hello Meg,

I'm sorry, but that doesn't look like a Lytocarium weddellianum to me... The one in the background does.

A Lytocarium seedling should look more like this:

[Z4Devil]

Hey, Meg -

phantastic, this sounds good. We are namesakes? So much the better.

Your Lyto-Baby seems to be of fighting spirit - good! Much luck in growing it. After work I will list all members who wants to join us here; it beomes necessarily otherwise I loose the overwiew.

Welcome an best regards, Verena

Edited May 13, 2009 by Z4Devil

[Z4Devil]

Kai, maybe not the weddelianum but the hoehnei?

[PalmatierMeg]

Hello Meg,

I'm sorry, but that doesn't look like a Lytocarium weddellianum to me... The one in the background does.

A Lytocarium seedling should look more like this:

Oh well, maybe that's why it's still alive. I like it anyway - whatever it is.

[DoomsDave]

I have a number of Lyto weddels at my place, PLUS! a hybrid between Syagrus and Lytocaryum . . . . .

Hmm. Maybe we should paint ourselves at Palm Society meetings, and invent a secret greeting.

(Goink goink goink!)

[Kai]

Goink goink to you too Dave!

Here's a little puzzle I can't work out myself, maybe some other Lytocarium freak here can tell me exactly what it is... I don't think it's a regular weddellianum, the differences are just too big. The last picture shows the difference between this one (left) and a regular weddellianum (right)...

Cheers!

Kai

[Z4Devil]

Kai, the palm in the middle is a L. hoehnei, I would bed.

Love, Verena

[Kai]

That's what I'm hoping for! But I'm not realy sure. The palm on the left and middle are the same, on the left it's a bit further in growth...

Thanks!

Kai

[Z4Devil]

Kai, believe me:

The left and the right is L. weddlianum, the palm in the middle is L. hoehnei. I know what I am talking about - I´m growing both successfully.

Verena

[Kai]

Hallo Verena,

Mein Deutsch ist nicht so gut, aber ich werde versuchen...zu versuchen, Missverständnisse zu vermeiden.

Um ehrlich zu sein, habe ich hauptsächlich mit Google Übersetzung für diese Nachricht zu schreiben, Ich glaube, Sie werden müssen Lachen.

Die Anlage auf dem linken Bild ist genau die gleiche Pflanze als Zentrum Foto, mitte Bild ist die palmpje ein bisschen weniger alte. Ich kaufte ihn als Sämling von einem Gärtner, und ich vermutete schon damals, dass es sich um eine hoehnei. Aber wie die Pflanze wächst, scheint er immer mehr zu einer Robuster weddellianum.

Würden Sie bitte sich ein Bild von Ihrem hoehnei wollen hochladen? Ich bin sehr gespannt!

I'm sorry for all the people wanting to read this who don't understand German. This message will be very easy to translate in google translation, because I translated it myself from Dutch to German

How many undivided leafs does a L. hoehnei produce before it starts dividing it's leafs? My little plant had fully divided leafs after about4 or 5 leafs. All my other weddellianums produce as second leaf a fully divided one usually... Here's another picture of it.

Feundlichen Grüßen!

Kai

[Z4Devil]

Kai, your German is cute.

And no, this seems to be not a robust L. weddelianum, the feathers are wider than those of L. wedelianum. I am quite sure that this is a L. hoehnei; everything else would surprise me.

The upload of the L. hoehnei is possible for me not before evening.

Best regards, Verena

PS: can you give me a recommendation of your reference source of Lytocaryum? Thank you.

[Phil]

Lytocaryum w. is an interesting plant that does like filtered light and, in my opinion, not fastidious care. I always tell people it thrives on neglect. Don't overwater, over-fertilize, etc. It likes well draining soil and just plugs away if happy. They are a slow grower, but when you think about it are really never going to be very tall so how could they be fast? The plant below is in a 5g or perhaps a 15g and 4 to 5 feet tall. This is about 5 to 6 years growth.

Phil

[Z4Devil]

Phil, absolutely agree. This procedure is handled to my Lytocaryums and they are growing very well. It is a matter of fact that Lytos are slow growing palms. But for that reason they are so beautiful.

When they reach a large of ... let us say ... 100 cm and more it has make it.

Cultivated plants hardly ever die due to less than too much water.

Best regards, Verena

[Kai]

Lytocaryum w. is an interesting plant that does like filtered light and, in my opinion, not fastidious care. I always tell people it thrives on neglect. Don't overwater, over-fertilize, etc. It likes well draining soil and just plugs away if happy. They are a slow grower, but when you think about it are really never going to be very tall so how could they be fast? The plant below is in a 5g or perhaps a 15g and 4 to 5 feet tall. This is about 5 to 6 years growth.

Phil

Hi Phil,

That's another beauty! I love the pictures! Keep them coming everybody!

Cheers!

[iwan]

Someone asked for a picture of my Lytoagrus dickensonii in another thread. Just starting to go pinnate. It was real ugly last year with crumpled, strap leaves. Seems to take our summer heat with morning sun. Cold hardiness, well that is another question altogether.

[Darold Petty]

Hey Robert, throw some compost over the base of the stem and exposed roots!!

PS Hope to see you on Sunday

[Kai]

Someone asked for a picture of my Lytoagrus dickensonii in another thread. Just starting to go pinnate. It was real ugly last year with crumpled, strap leaves. Seems to take our summer heat with morning sun. Cold hardiness, well that is another question altogether.

Wow! I'm so jealous! Where can I get one?

[iwan]

Darold,

I just noticed that after cleaning out the weeds. I haven't decided if I want to plant this out yet, but it needs to get in a 5g pot right away.

I plan to attend the meeting on Sunday. Looking forward to it.

Hey Robert, throw some compost over the base of the stem and exposed roots!!

PS Hope to see you on Sunday

[iwan]

Someone asked for a picture of my Lytoagrus dickensonii in another thread. Just starting to go pinnate. It was real ugly last year with crumpled, strap leaves. Seems to take our summer heat with morning sun. Cold hardiness, well that is another question altogether.

Wow! I'm so jealous! Where can I get one?

You have to visit the hybridizer/creator in California or create your own. I doubt he ships them.

[Moose]

Verena - here is a couple of photos of one growing (Lytocaryum weddellianum) in my garden (planted two years ago). One gallon container for scale.

Best regards,

Ron.

[Geoff]

Here's a Pic of Pauleens L hoehnii in Ventura

[Geoff]

Here's a nice tall L weddelianum in Santa Barbara

[Geoff]

Here's one growing over the roof at Louie Hooper's house (and this was 5 years ago... wonder how tall it is now)

[Geoff]

and of course, the infamous Lytocarium dicksonii (original) in Orange County, Ca