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MattyB

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MattyB Grand Master

MattyB

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I think we've discussed this palm before but my seedling is now getting some size so I thought I'd bring it up again. Bob got this as Butia x Syagrus he says. What do you think?

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Matt Bradford

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MattyB Grand Master

MattyB

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Here's the only seed I could get to germinate from several hundred collected.

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Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

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MattyB Grand Master

MattyB

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Do pure Butias have that much purple in them? It sure is happy in a full sun spot and it even looks "stretched" at bit even though it's 3/4 of the day in afternoon sun. :)

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Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

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paulgila Grand Master

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butia.

you said "opinions."

the "prince of snarkness."

 

still "warning-free."

 

san diego,california,left coast.

Z4Devil Experienced

Z4Devil

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Matty, without a doubt we are talking about a Butia capitata, maybe a B. odorata- not really sure. A very nice and healthy specimen, in relation of a good cold hardiness. Where did you shot the photo?

Regards, Verena

Member of the ultimate Lytocaryum fan society :)

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100% beautiful butia

Resident in Bristol UK.

Webshop for hardy palms and hybrid seeds www.hardy-palms.co.uk

paulgila Grand Master

paulgila

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most people agree so far that its butia. consistent with "occam's razor" the simplest solution is usually the correct one.

the "prince of snarkness."

 

still "warning-free."

 

san diego,california,left coast.

MattyB Grand Master

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Good to know. Thanks all.

Verena,

The mature palm above is growing in my neighbor's yard here in Southern California.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Z4Devil Experienced

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Thanks, Matty.

A Butia Palm is very notable for all climate zones. It is one of the most adaptable plants I know. Anyhow, a Butia is a sun-loving, a lot of water-requiring and very sensible palm - as far as I know it´s home is South America.

Any other conditions (like those in Germany) could never achive a growing like the tropical America.

Such impressive plants you will never find in Europe, that´s why it is so interesting to look at their natural environment. :)

Very nice palm, Matty, :greenthumb:

Member of the ultimate Lytocaryum fan society :)

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FRITO Grand Master

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ill add some 2 cents....

I agree on Butia, a nice one though. They can be hard to grow from seed if you try to germinate them, they seem to germinate in old leaf boots or around palms more unattended.

Matty, If Bobs was a hybrid I believe it would have no thorns on the petioles. I can see typical Butia thorns so it would rule out a hybrid.

Luke

Tallahassee, FL - USDA zone 8b/9a

63" rain annually

January avg 65/40 - July avg 92/73

North Florida Palm Society - http://palmsociety.blogspot.com/

Kailua_Krish Veteran

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Thanks, Matty.

A Butia Palm is very notable for all climate zones. It is one of the most adaptable plants I know. Anyhow, a Butia is a sun-loving, a lot of water-requiring and very sensible palm - as far as I know it´s home is South America.

Any other conditions (like those in Germany) could never achive a growing like the tropical America.

Such impressive plants you will never find in Europe, that´s why it is so interesting to look at their natural environment. :)

Very nice palm, Matty, :greenthumb:

I like your description of it as a "sensible" palm! If other palms were as sensible as the Butia are they wouldnt cause me such problems in growing them!

-Krishna

-Krishna

Kailua, Oahu HI. Near the beach but dry!

Still have a garden in Zone 9a Inland North Central Florida (Ocala)

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I think it is a jubutia, the petiole bases look like those of a Jubaea

Milwaukee, WI to Ocala, FL

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