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So I had a little extra time on my hands today, and I decided that the coconuts I had with no water needed to be checked out before they rot through the shell and stink up my room (I'm keeping them inside for the winter). I took one big one that I found out by the beach and carefully pulled away enough husk to see the eyes, nothing. I ripped the remainder of the husk away and looked at the embryo, it was black, so I opened the nut and it was black and rotted, no luck... One of my 3 Jamaican tall nuts (from the Paul Drummond trees at Kopsick) no longer had any water on the inside, so I decided to check it too. I knocked these down still partially green, so I figured maybe they weren't mature enough. I carefully pulled husk away to find this Should I treat it like normal, or should I tape the husk back on, or plant it in a pot, or what? Thanks for any advise. Hopefully he grows up to big and strong like his daddy tree!

Dang I really want this one... http://rarepalmseeds.com/shop/CocNiu.shtml Has anyone ever seen this variety?

I just saw on the news there was an 8.8 earthquake in Chile. Tsunami warning are issued throughout the Pacific, including Hawaii and American Samoa. Tsunami sirens have gone off in Hawaii. Tsunamai, if any, should reach islands around 11-something. Be aware and take care.

theres 3 large royals that i know of in about a 7 mile radius, thats not too bad, the coconut palms got hit hard but it looks like they are still green in the very very center,and some even pushed out some green, thats good right? whats weird is that where theres damage it changes from fried to completly green, its realy noticeable when you go into downtown melbourne and beachside, i guess the gulf stream did its job. brevard dosnt landscape well, fort peirce planted litteraly hundreds of royals downtown.

We're ALREADY on high ground! So far, so good it seems. Check out the thread in the weather forum.

i love the barrier islands, on jungle trail in wabasso theres huge coconut palms planted near old houses probably built when they started the orange groves, they must have survived all the freezes from whenever the houses were built, there cracker houses, and there condos surrounding them , i like how west coast florida has more old florida areas. ill take a pic of the cocos people wrapped up in my neiborhood whenever i have camera. there still green

That's how my yard is going to be! I'm going to get property closer to the beach, so the climate is better, with hopefully close to an acre and I'll plant all the coconut varieties I can get my hands on! I've already got both Jamaican and Pacific tall, and Kris is keeping an eye out for an East coast indian tall. One variety I'd like to try is the niu kafa, or the wild type coconut. Very hard to find though, only occurs alone on north Keeling island. Everywhere else it occurs among the domesticated coconuts, so collected nuts wouldn't be pure. Just the other day, we were driving around on one of the barrier islands, and one guy had close to 30 coconut palms, all mature and fruiting, in his front yard alone. It was a small yard too, so the entire place was shaded completely by coconuts alone. It was way cool.

Here's a video... .

Very good advise! I will try this in the new yard (when we get it, which will hopefully be before next winter so i can do trials) so I can have spots to put coconut palms.

i know what you mean tropicbreeze, theres a better chance of one coming back after a freeze than a lightning strike. although i am happy to see the ones at seaworld are okay, the melbourne area has some good cocos (there more common than royals), near downtown there still GREEEEEEEN, once you cross the causeway it looks like nothing happened. i wish people would plant royals more, i mean there native and frost tolerant, i think they will prove there cold tolerance after this winter.

Great setup! Love the mix of palms & cycads... Go ahead and ship me all the ones that don't sell by the end of the show!

I don't blame the NWS service for the weather that actually happens,or any other weather service for that matter. How should they be held responsible for something that doesn't always add up to 2+2 = 4 I also don't belive that the NWS service pads their forecast for safety/liability concerns. As many times other weather services give lower temp forecasts,or different pop,or higher wind forecasts because of the models they use,or the way they analize the information they have and use. Having said that, what IRKS me is the fact that they want their cake and eat it to. They act like it is an exact science and will try to make you beleive it is an exact science. But in all reality there are so many variables to predicting the weather that they are not much better at it than they were 60 years years ago, before the advent of satelites,radar,and computers. As a matter of fact since computers,I personally feel they rely much to heavily on MODELS. Studying the weather AFTER it has happened is an exact science,they can tell what happened and why it happened after the fact, but forecasting is a crap shoot,to many things can change over the long term, or even the very short term! The reason the "blame game" and lack of respect comes into play is because weatherpeople want to ACT like they know exactly what is going to happen,when they really don't! Add HYPE, who got the forecast first, who is the most accurate, who is more reliable into the mix, and you have a situation where weatherpeople set themselves up for embarassment,and second guessing!

Doesn't discourage me. The coconut I have planted at my mom's house looks sad and I don't think it will make it but I will plant 1 or 2 again there this summer.

Jeff, yes, Jurassic Park = Dypsis tokoravina.

Kris that is impressive growth in one year. I have a sabal mexicana I started from seed that is three years old and it looks like the picture in your first post. Of course mine grows inside under lights for 6 months a year. I guess climate matters. None the less, I'll keep on growing 'em. Great pics and tutorials. Love your passion.

Thanks Bo. Awesome shots Is the dypsis pilulifera same as the dypsis sp. (orange crush)? I got a couple seedlings from Jeff Marcus and was wondering if that is what I have to look forward to . Laura

I´m not hungry but my mouth is watering!! Bo,Thanks for the pics!!

Bo, beautiful and different leaves and palms, by the way I love that stone work, what a way to improve on an already wonderful display of pilulifera, it really sets them off. "WOW"

The colors of your palms are a kaliediscope to the eyes of the beholder thru cyber fibers that slide thru optic streams to the center of minds nerve ticklers exciteding and stimulating to the core of what we all seem to dream of. Bo, you are on to something... No Bob, you are on something...

The colors of your palms are a kaliediscope to the eyes of the beholder thru cyber fibers that slide thru optic streams to the center of minds nerve ticklers exciteding and stimulating to the core of what we all seem to dream of. Bo, you are on to something...

Looking great Bo, Mine tend to hang on to their leaves through dry periods and as soon as it rains, it's a big clean up

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THANK YOU BO!! The forum has been a bit dry of tropicals for a while. Nice to see them!!! BUT, thats quite the tease. You show the trunk of the different Dypsis pilulifera, but not the leaves? Whats up with that??!!

Dypsis sp. bejofa is such a great looking palm.

So basically, the guy is being offered less than what empty ones go for Manny

Are there fruiting double coconuts in places other than Seychelles? Foster Gardens Honolulu I was under the impression that only in Sri Lanka and Singapore botanical gardens had there been palms with fruit OTHER than Seychelles. Was completely unaware of Foster, if its true. Manny Manny, How could you doubt someone as honorable as me?? Steve, I want documentation. I want pictures, affidavits and legally binding paperwork that absolutely 100 % guarantees what your saying is true ! When I went to Seychelles, I brought back this small book on all endemic palm species from Seychelles, and in there it described the only places OUTSIDE of Seychelles where there were fruiting palms and like I said in an earlier post it was Sri Lanka and Singapore. But now add Foster's to the list !!!!! Thanks. Manny

I collected some Hyphaene thebaica seed while in Ft. Myers, and nothing has happened yet. They seem to have a weird, dry pulpy inside, and I opened one and nothing was inside... I didn't want to take the risk with the others, so I haven't opened any more yet. What the heck is up with these seeds? They seem really weird.. Here's a pic

I would prefer to buy from someone with (at least) some other botanicals for sale and not a gent who auctions video games. Just my 2¢.

I only see empty nuts available on Ortanique...and pricey at that! Lodoicea maldivica - One Large Empty Nut Double Cocount 575.00 Lodoicea maldivica - One Small Empty Nut Double Cocount 475.00

Reasonably fresh seeds seem to germinate easily. Four seeds arrived here in Leilani Estates in Nov 1999. Three of them were for our garden. The fourth one went to a different garden. All four germinated. My three were pushing the first spike above the ground 13-17 months after being planted.

Assuming that it's fresh, how hard is it to germinate?

I'll bet you it is the real thing, since, as mentioned above, there's no telling how high the reserve is set at. Heck...it could be on par with what one costs from Ortanique. That said, the shipping is very reasonable, probably since this is not coming from overseas. I wonder if these remain viable for long periods like Cocos seeds do. Based on the architecture of the seed it seems like it would. Somebody from PalmTalk needs to win this and we'll all find out! -Michael

It would be helpful to know how long the seller has had it, and at least a vague idea of the source.

It says reserve not met.. and so it could be going as high as 3,000 dollars supposedly

Well, the seller specifically says that he doesn't know if the seed is viable, and that's crucial. For all a buyer knows, the seed could be ten years old. Still a good price for something that's extremely rare, though.

They looked really nice, it's too bad. When I got there, one was a stump and the other had 1 leaf. I just assumed at the time that they had gotten sick, and it wasn't until I read that they are very LY susceptible that I realized they had contracted the disease. I have never seen a case of LY in my county (only texas phoenix palm decline on Sabal palmetto and Phoenix sylvestris) so I think the chills in winters keep me safe. There is a zone close to the coast that is warm enough for the disease, but in the spot between where coconuts don't grow because of cold and where LY may attack the coconuts, you can grow Jamaican talls without fear of death by cold or LY.

The seed pic helped actually. I cleaned it and it kind of looked like that, so i'll give it a try, but I won't expect anything.

Keith, It's interesting to hear you refer to the Jamaican Tall as the "Paul Drummond" trees. I lived at Paul's for several years and he was nuts over Coconuts. In fact his screen name on AOL was Coco Loco. Over the years he had collected many different kinds. He said the Jamaican Tall was the easiest to grow of all the coconuts, but it was also the most susceptible to lethal yellowing. Paul passed away over two years ago, but read his memorial on Palm Talk and it explains his love for coconuts. Soon we may have Butia X Coconut hybrids that will take more cold than a coconut. See the pictures of Mark Heath's. It sure looks coconutty. Dick

Nice one Al! Thanks for posting that. Keith, judging by is neat trim and golf course locale, I would imagine your intuition was correct. I'm almost certain it never is allowed to fruit.

NOOOOO LARRY, DONT DO IT!

Great article Meg - thanks for posting it.

You go bro, daddy-o!

If I lived where Coconuts would grow, I'd be buying a couple. Coconuts grow fast and it would be a good investment and would pay for its self many times over when it started bearing nuts. Dick

Yeah, I'm not to crazy about it either. I like a nice full, lush coconut much better. At first glance, this one appears as if it is not getting enough water or something.

Ron, There is no way you can be that cold that far south!!! 37f!! Are you kidding me???? This winter is unbelievable!!! Here in Orlando they predict 35f for the same day!! But that is for the fortunate City/heat island effect people! Much colder for us country folk!

Bill, Go get them! Grow them and we will come. We will open up our wallets like...What was that baseball movie?

Wow! That was a great article, almost more than I need to know about Coconuts. Dick

That is one freaky looking palm. Too bad we can't get a look at the fruit way up there.

I do! Some people never learn and I am one of them.

How much are they? I can't find them on the list.