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This is a thread to post things that we knew or didn't knew need palms to be made. I'll start; The color of the United States' dollar bill since 40 years ago is made with the fronds of Chamaedorea pochutlensis (Jihuite/Camedor in Mexico), the fresh fronds are cultivated in the pacific coast of Mexico (The state of Nayarit is the one with major production) and sent to the United States (California). Some others are sent to Guadalajara and Sinaloa to make floral arrangements with them. The reason why only Chamaedorea pochutlensis is used for this is because the fronds stay green when cut for more time than those of other Chamaedorea species. I don't know the exact process but a type of sap is extracted from the fronds and it is mixed with some chemicals to make the color and paint the dollar bills. Chamaedorea pochutlensis is rare outside of the pacific coast where it is found wild and now used for agriculture in Nayarit, that's why it's not sold (People rarely sell it) for ornamental purposes but when it's sold it's normally cheap. I've seen people selling them for 2 pesos each. Though many people don't know the value of it. One frond of this palm costs 1 mexican peso. The fronds need to have a specific size to be sold.

Stepping backwards about 10 feet from the last photo, I added a Licuala Ramsayi on the left side, moved a Cycas Guizhouensis to the middle bottom, and added two more Kerriodoxa Elegans to the one that's hiding behind the Guizhou: And stepping back to the left about 10 feet I moved a pair of smaller Encephalartos Laurentianus into the opening, one on the bottom left and bottom center. In the middle is an Elaeis Guineensis, and to the upper right is a Cycas Litoralis/Edentata. The Litoralis got torched 2 years ago in ~26F with frost, and the main growing point died. I repotted it and it eventually sprouted 4 new heads!

With winter in full swing temperatures down to 2 degrees Celsius and widespread frosts my little palms are fairing well a little damage and a few dead ones I was expecting that but you have to zone push with so many new varieties there is bound to be some winners and losers certain varieties I stay away from knowing full well they won’t grow others I keep on trying research and asking around and palm talk certainly helps in choosing what varieties are worth trying and germinating the seeds seems to help with acclimatisation and keeping the wind out the cold draughty winds are not nice to seedlings throw in some wet weather and its touch and go to see who wins and who doesn’t make it time will tell!

Pic at almost the same angle as the last one, 7 years later

My neighbors pooch Huckleberry drinking from my watering can. Michelia Champaca Alba tree in the background. -dale

Not 7, but 8 new leaves! A 160% percent increase. Woo-hoo!

Christian, I know the feeling. When I first got into palms, my brother and I salvaged what would have been the equivalent of a field grown red Latania that the homeowner just thought was an ugly palm. It was the the centerpiece of my yard for 2 years. After the first infestation of palm weevils, we managed to treat it and it survived another year. The second time the palm weevils attacked, ultimately was death sentence. But it was fun to look at while it lasted. Hope you find a suitable replacement, Copernicia fallaensis, perhaps?

Not to bad for there first winter in the ground

Kerriodoxa are doing well for the first winter

Funn how everyone is freaked out by the rising CO2 in our atmosphere but none of them plant trees, quite the opposite, they buy a property and 1st on the list, cut down all the trees

Encephalartos transvenosus x horridus flushing

A time series of an Encephalartos sclavoi with a colorful flush. Look what is poking out along with the flush in the last photo like 3 eggs in a nest. Boy... a neat surprise to get both of these happening at once.

During my recent trip to Spain, in addition to visiting the city of Valencia, I also had the chance of going to Málaga, an ancient seaside city located in the Andalusian region, in very south of the country, on the famous shores of the Costa del Sol . One of the many highlights of my trip there was going to see the 'Central Park" of Málaga, called ' El Parque de Málaga ' - also called Alameda Park ( Parque de la Alameda or just "El Parque" (the Park)). I was told by my friend ( who lives nearby in the city of Marbella ) that there were many palm species planted there that I would be interested in seeing. So during my time in Málaga, I set aside a whole afternoon exploring the park, which stretches for over six hundred and seventy meters ( in ' Freedom Units ' , almost two thousand two hundred feet ), and has a total area of thirty thousand square meters ( about thirty two thousand , two hundred and ninety - two square feet ). There are three paths, that run through the park: one on the north side and two others on the south side, which run along a wide central lane. The Parque de Málaga was not always located where it is today. In fact, its current site , until the early twentieth century, used to be underwater, under the Mediterranean sea. It was not until 1896 that the Spanish Prime Minister at the time, Antonio Cánovas del Castillo, passed a law to expand the Málaga port. This project would take over 30 years to convert it into what it is today , a verdant park containing a collection of many exotic tropical and subtropical trees and plants that can boast of being one of the most important public botanical gardens of this kind in all of Europe. The local climate has been acknowledged as optimum the whole year round for this type of floral collection ( Malaga is agricultural hardiness Zone 10, I believe ). There are around 350 or more tropical and subtropical plant species present in the park, that far exceeds 5,000 individual specimens. So If you ever have the chance to visit Málaga, and go though Málaga Park, you will find amazing examples of those types of plant life from all five continents. Málaga’s Seaside Promenade ( with a stand of Phoenix Theophrasti at the left, and some Phoenix Dactylifera on the right ). Málaga City Council building, with some Phoenix canariensis palms. Sign describing the history of the park ( in Español and English ). A Chamaerops Humilis ( European fan palm ) and some type of Phoenix palm species ( Robelenii ? ) ( More Parque de Málaga palm pictures to come )

When I planted a dozen or so strap leaf Sabal seedlings just over the property line of the vacant lot next door in 2008/09 to eventually block view of the abandoned house two lots east, I knew this day would come. Sabal Row was never ours but we hoped whoever developed the property would consider sparing at least some of the palms that formed a wind block that saved our house from damage in Hurricanes Irma and Ian: Sabals maritima x6, palmetto x 4, domingensis x1, and causiarum x1. Our Sabal causiarum may be the only but certainly the largest in Cape Coral. It is my husband's favorite palm and the one we hoped we could convince the builder to spare. But that was not to be. Last weekend the project manager knocked on our door with the ultimatum: all the Sabals had to go. We could try to save them or we could watch them be hacked down and turned into mulch. Still, there is some good news along with the bad. We immediately called PTers Corey and Shelby of Premier Growers on Pine Island to the rescue. Over the years we had discussed with them the growing threat to Sabal Row and the causiarum in particular and they expressed interest in taking in at least some of the Sabals. Turns out that meant even the palmettos. There aren't many/any large trunked, mature Sabals in Cape Coral-Ft. Myers but a niche market of people with property and means to take large Sabals. Corey originally planned to keep only the causiarum and domingensis but later was pondering keeping the others too. So, perhaps Sabal Row will rise again on Pine Island. I took a lot of photos that present the process of trenching and removing very large Sabals - a tutorial for anyone facing the task we did. You will notice that each palm has no rootball. Sabal roots die when cut. The palms must grow new root systems. All leaves must be removed, including the top half of the spear, to reduce transpiration. The bases are wrapped in plastic and the palms placed in a protected area then sprinkled frequently to keep them hydrated. Recall also that Sabal trunks must be wetted down as they also absorb water. So, if you plant a trunking Sabal plan to water the trunk as well as the ground around it. So, let's dig up some Sabals First, an aggregation of equipment needed Final Views of Sabal Row Sabal maritima (Left) and Sabal domingensis (Right) Sabal maritima crowns x2 From the south - Sabal maritima x2 (rear) and Sabal causiarum (right) hh From the west - Sabal maritima x2 Sapal maritima (Left) and Sabal domingensis (Right) Sabal Row canopy from below

My arenaria is flowering again it does set viable seeds that I have germinated before so hopefully this one will set some more seeds again it is a rare palm in my area but only a collectors palm not really up there with the bangalow golden cane buyers list oh how the public need education on exotic plants.

A few years ago I bought, "Jubaea chilensis x Butia odorata F2 Blue Jubaea" seeds from RPS. About a year after I gave up on thinking I'd have any germinate, I had some come up. They were a little temperamental as seedlings, but now I have one in a 3gal pot. Does it look pretty much indistinguishable from a straight butia at this size? Maybe? Does it match the photo on RPS? Sort of. Am I optimistic that it will be a nice palm when it puts on some size? Sure!

Sabal uresana, commonly known as the Sonoran palmetto is a species that is native to the foothills of the Sierra Madre Ocidental in northwestern Mexico. It's habitat is very dry and I had concerns if it would thrive in my not so hot and year round humid subtropical climate ( 1600 mm rain/ year). I have two planted out in the garden. One grew better then the other. The young leaves are blue but the wax is slowly removed by the frequent rains.

The garden is doing well in the cold weather some new plantings are coming through well a couple are feeling the cold but look promising so far but winter is not over yet the last picture is of a satakentia liukiuensis feeling the cold but hasn’t been cooked so far I might put some plastic around it just to help but it was planted as a deep forest tube jus5 to see what would happen and it’s the first winter for it so it’s doing ok once again time will tell.

Yes, absolutely it has been done. I will PM you .

This is what I was kinda thinking. The fronds just scream butia to me, but I never saw a mule with such a skinny trunk and this tall before

John, definitely not a Howea. It’s got Syagrus in it and it may be a hybrid.

I got this on 6/2/2020 . Amazingly it was a pretty healthy HC Palmetto because after I planted it , it grew about 6 inflorescences out of the trunk that first year in 2020 . I guess they cut off the fronds that were growing out of it on the day I bought it , so the inflorescences were ready to grow out even though it had no fronds . It had a nice root system too , so it may have been at the nursery for over a year , and just took off right when planted . In a way it might not really be a HC Palmetto because it had such a mature root system . It just lacked fronds . It's finally flowering again . Will

Some 7 gallon C. microspadix $80. Also have 5s and 15s

Have several old Chamaedorea glaucafolia multis with a bunch of ringed trunk, $135

Oddly enough I have about 6 of these combo radicalis with one trunking form and 2 or 3 non-trunking. Pretty cool and different. $100

I'm glad there are differences in Louisianas and Minors earlier than just the look of their trunks when they are very mature . As soon as they flower and produce seed the differences are evident . My Minors have long inflorescences that grow straight up well above the fronds and then the seeds weigh them down and the flower stems flop over . On my Louisiana the inflorescences grow to just above the highest frond and stop growing and never flop over . Those are the most obvious differences to me before the Louisiana starts to trunk up and the minor's trunk mainly just gets fatter without a lot of trunking . Will The long inflorescences of Sabal minor , soon to be fat with seed and bend downward . Here are my shorter and stiffer Louisiana inflorescences . They will stay upright even loaded with seed .

Speaking from a z7b, I would plant filifera and hybrids by directly seeding. I do this. Have done it repeatedly with success. You end up with a larger palm(10years), fully established roots, and you completely miss the transplant 2-3 year establishment. I talk to this in a heading called miracles never cease. 1year old seedlings direct sowed 6/2023. Saw 11f last winter

The Sabal uresana were planted a few years after the Parajubaea torallyi ( this in 2009). I have 9 Parajubaea torallyi var. torallyi ( a torallyi var. microcarpa died) and have also 7 P. sunkha. I also have seedlings of P. cocoides ( collected on the ground in Bogotá) that need to be transplanted to bigger pots.

@NC_Palms Female inflorescences look like this one:

My joeys are handling the cold weather as expected they are quite tough the ones I have in the ground are doing well that’s with temperatures as low as 2 degrees Celsius with no protection as 3 leaf tubes there tough for such a tropical looking palm th3 ones in the greenhouse and hothouse are doing fine as well I wa# never worried about them where as the magnifica are a different story they are doing well in the hothouse along with perakensis I lost one magnifica last winter the only one I planted but that was from tropical growing in Queensland iam hoping the ones I germinated will do better in the ground.

Got this little tray of schumanii taking the cold weather quite well in the protection of the hothouse so far see how they go for the rest of winter I have one larger one in 140mm container that has survived 3 winters so far time will tell.

This post is 20 years old. Can't remember if I posted my FOX. It's at least 25 years old and has so many other plants around it that I can't enjoy the fronds until the fall and I have to haul them to the dump. The trunk must be at least 24' by now. Photo is from 2019

Alberto, I have an uresana and it is slow , like one frond a year, but the parajubaea I have are fast. Were the palms planted at the same time? What parajubaea do you have ? I like your choice of palms for an exotic desert look.

Fortunately climate had not changed that much. But max around 40 C for a whole month had stopped being uncommon.

@D. Morrowii I kinda pooh-pooh'd the people saying that Rhapis Excelsa was a colossal menace...until I found shoots popping up 4-6 feet from the parent culm. That was a few weeks ago, so I have been planning the replacements in that area ever since. So today I spent about 10 hours filling it back in. First off was moving a trunking Agave Angustifolia/Vivipara from the corner to replace the one that flowered. This was a pup from the original about 4 years ago: To replace it I planted a pair of Cycas Debaoensis (possibly Multifrondis) that I got from MB Palms at last year's open house sale: And just on the other side of the Debaos I planted a triple Cycas Micholitzii in the shade between the Alfredii, Butia, and big Chamaerops: Both Cycas groupings have a scale problem, Micholitzii and Debao/Multifrondis are absolute scale magnets...

Update picture 7/21/24

I just went out to move the ladder and this came flying in. At least I got to kill one of them. F#&*!

Lastly, a night shot. I wanted to do this for 20 years, it’s a great effect. Thanks again for looking!

The very top of the hill, one of my favorite places to have a cold one in the afternoon. We have a park bench that we rebuilt last year and the canopy here is just perfect. Dappled sunlight, no matter what time of day, no matter how warm.

Saw these at the Publix nearby and i always marvel at their height and health. They are well cared for. And older im sure since they are over 6 feet tall.

Another one of @DoomsDave Dypsis . Happy in its new home. This one a Dypsis Lanceolata , already showing growth. I spear marked it to the next petiole to show growth. That is about 3 weeks ago. HarryThe petiole on the right has a black line where the new spear was when I planted it.It looks like this one may clump by the way the base looks.

The spear cracked open into two as one is about to open it's leaflets on one of my Chrysalidocarpus decipiens. The color immediately drew my attention.

Kerriodoxa elegans at ANSG:

Millie and a Balansae.

Definitely slow to start but now is simply jumping out of the ground. Wouldn't be surprised if it reached 20 feet in the next 5 years given favorable weather conditions.

I had one that grew to 20 feet+ (10 feet of trunk) from a one gallon in about fifteen years but succumbed to some sort of but rot or fungus. I got on a ladder and cut all the way back to living tissue but, unfortunately, that was below the growing point.

Being that I live in Ventura and this property is about 2 1/2 miles down the road I often take a slight detour home just to take a look at what’s happening with the palms. Separately, I happened to stumble across another Dypsis decipiens also in mid town Ventura. I dropped my sons friend off and this was right next door to where his friend lives. Imagine my pleasant surprise. This one has split into 3.

Looks great! Love your pics! You get tons of rain by my standard so that is helping. Here in our semi arid Mediterranean climate we average just 10 inches of rain per year. And we had years with just 3 to 5 inches of rain so we have to do tons of supplemental watering even though temperatures stay mild all summer due to ocean influence with highs upper 70F or around 25C