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These pictures were sent to me today by a friend in China of the habitat of trachycarpus nanus who collects the seeds. China is such a beautiful country there pictures I would never get to see as tourists in China absolutely beautiful place. The snow covered mountains are near the nanus habitat. Amazing to see enjoy.

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Define Cold Hardy, it means different things to different people. That's a small list for me - Needle Palm, Chamaerops and Serenoa. That's it.

I just used Google Street view , and found this view. Image capture was Oct. of this year . There is some construction happening along the roadway . Looks like various irrigation etc work in the Right of ways . The orange barrels seen along the road tell the tale . The Boxes are probably there to help to protect the trees .

I am closer to the epicenter than Jim, didn't feel a thing, typical over-reaction by the mass media.

@jwitt I was not aware of the RR2 weather station location. I will need to look into the stats further. With that being said, I believe that there is a microclimate on the hillside between 528 and the pump station. The area has almost completely filled in over the last decade since I planted my first palms. I’m not sure if they are male or female, but I get these flowers on my two larger trachys. you are welcome to as many minor seeds (or seedlings) as you would like.

@jwitt I made my way to the future palm oasis of central New Mexico. It’s about a mile from house and a beautiful walk ok this pleasant sunny December day of 60 degrees. I didn’t find of your seedlings, but I planted many more Sabal Minor seeds. I did the same in the flood reservoir that is behind my neighborhood in trinity estates too.

I have two 1-gallon starts of this calla for give away, no shipping, you must visit my garden ! https://www.plantdelights.com/products/zantedeschia-aethiopica-white-giant

Potted up a few Ernest Augustii seedlings from rps seeds. There is about 240 Augustii along with a few lacospadix in there. A tray of adscedans and some Calpytrocalyx spicatus up the back. I love chameadoreas one of my favourite small palms to grow

It is sad, but amusing how few different palms are commonly seen in PR nurseries and how little information is there. I saw this one a few days ago with no label and no price. The nice employee said it was rare and had been there a long time. She called someone to get a price of $40 quite pricey by PR standards. Funny when I asked the name she put her phone in charge and let whatever app identify it as Trachycarpus fortunei. I am thinking Coccothrinax and I like the stiff thin leaflets regardless of the name-if that trait persists into adulthood. They have put it aside for me to consider. I explained about hybridization and how if I got it I would need to at least plant it far away from others that I hope are species. They are considering a lower price if they can’t name it. What’s your guess? The owner of the business will return tomorrow and he MAY remember more.

For those curious about the root structure,this appears to be a VERY deep rooted species. Habitat is almost desert like,so it makes sense. Roots would mainly go straight down in search of water, without much side rooting. Looks like they should have been grown in deep stuewe or citrus pots instead of standard 1 gallons,but who knew...?🤷‍♂️ aztropic Mesa, Arizona

A late wonder around the garden starting at the house walking up the backyard. There is a transition from the tropical wet section of the garden, to a dry rocky area moving back down the hill towards the house again the garden changes again with dry tolerant plants on a north west facing slope so plenty of hot afternoon sun up there. It’s a complete transition in comparison to the bottom section below the house with joeys, licualas and all sorts of tropical palms and water loving exotics all within about 25 meters distance from each other its amazing what you can create with a canopy and a bit of irrigation if I was to irrigate the top section it would be a lot of water to create what is in the bottom section.

My good friend Phil who is retiring from all his pot plants and hanging baskets, has kindly given me a rather large clump or should I say a Ute load of dancing lady orchids. There a fantastic display when in flower and this lot will go as a huge border in the garden somewhere iam sure there is a spot somewhere out there in the jungle that has a bright hot sunny position that will accommodate them.

Hope this part of the forum is appropriate for this. California people check in. Hope all are well.

@DoomsDave that’s where I got mine and I saw many more there . When I make it back down there I will get a few more! Now that I know how well they do . Harry

I have some Ernie augies, too!

I don't think it works quite like that - the 25/50/25 ratios work for specific genes in an F2 cross. But then multiply those probabilities across all the genes that are guiding the plants' growth, and it becomes much more interesting! Also, this tree itself might not even be an F1!

I almost gave up on needle palms after the main trunk froze and died the first winter. The pups survived and have grown great since. It would probably be much healthier with more acidic soil and more water, but I’m happy with it.

I have 16 Rayado seeds, collected the end of October. I am currently germinating 5 of them to see if they're viable. I have about 80 Filifera seedlings going now, between 1-2 months old as well. More in the germination process.

@NMPalmjunky Save me some minor seeds and I'll work on getting some filifera seed. Give me a couple months. Ps. Does your Trachy bloom? Needing some pollen this spring....if male. Pss that pump station in your neighborhood was the Corrales weather station for some time. I think it really confused the NWS, so they returned it near the river and created another(RR2) near the future palm 🌴 oasis.

This is the flood area closer to my house and the mother Sabal.

I got hopes for that spot. Gonna come down to timing and luck!

Didn’t feel a thing here. 7.0 on the Richter scale is a big one but several miles off the north coast in the Pacific so minimal impact on land. My phone blasted a Tsunami warning but none occurred.

Large pure unhybridized Phoenix species are pretty much instant death around here now. Feral Phoenix hybrids seem unaffected most likely because they have Pygmy date genes in them. Pygmy dates seem to be more resistant to LB

Fresh Clinostigma sp.

Here are current pix of my Zantesdeschia aethiopica (striped Calla lily) at the start of winter here. Where I am it has a very brief dormant period then sends up new leaves fast! I grow it in a pot, under the shade of my pergola.

I usually walk the entire garden in the morning and the evening with the dogs and wanted to share some photos First stop was to check out this massive flowering Chrysalidocarpus. Barely trunking but flowering like crazy and a very large palm already. Check out the size 10 shoe for scale on the second photo. around the corner and lining the fence is a row of Chrysalidocarpus Sp Mayotte and here’s one of them. Most likely a hybrid as I have 2 very different looking palms as Mayotte grown from the same seed batch. This looks like a “white triangle” type hybrid: Chrysalidocarpus Robustus getting to the size that it will really get going now:

No, it's not expensive, I can find one in a 6 gallon pot, 6 ft 7 inch (including leaves, but it already has some trunk) for 110 € (like 116 USD I think). I like Phoenix roebelenii too, I wanted one in a pot for the porch but knowing it can manage water I may put in in the ground too. Thanks!

Thanks! I love that palm I didn't realize the meaning of the name. I can find some specimens relatively easy here.

Hi everyone Long time! I stopped in to update about progress with seedlings. It's been ablut two years and my first batch are three offspring of KoKos Crater finally getting to size where I'll need to separate and pot them up. Inwas also able to germinate more from the same Mother plant earlier this year. At least one I believe is crossed with a variety called Valentina but not sure. I had six seeds from Valentina too and three sprouted but they all rotted.. I did learn a better pollination method however and I'm sharing it for whoever wants to breed these in areas where insects don't so the trick (especially since they flower in around December or Janiary when most places are wintery) Take the flowers that have matured and up to several days from that point wven if they are dried but not exposed to extremes. It's not easy to line up flowering times they all seem to vary alot.. but take about two or three and put them together with the anthers postioned .. roll the two or three between your index fingers until they spin.. do it very closely to the pistil on a plant that is in bloom and on the day that they open.. do not touch it that seems to not work.. but if you spin it and to where your fingers move up as you are spinning them you can see a poof of pollen fly out and if you have strad hands you can make it fall over the pistil.. I think that's what it's called. I was much more successful this year than last year and Valentina was the one where I tried it most.. unfortunatley those ones didn't handle humidity well at all But anyhow I hope others wwill grow and collect these... and there are newer fancy ones. Look them up on Pinterest there are some amazing crosses out there and they are nice to have despite having to bring them indoors every winter where they help detoxify the air 😎 if you manage to find the fancy one from over seas and have extras to swap pls let me know if have a nice sized collection Here are the seedlings. The largest obviously around two years. The smaller just a few months

Hi @Jeff zone 8 N.C., From what I read in a few articles from the University of Florida, the primary insect vector for LB does not live in North Carolina. Here are two articles on the subject. LB Article: https://gardeningsolutions.ifas.ufl.edu/care/pests-and-diseases/diseases/lethal-bronzing-disease/ Article on the insect that spreads it: https://gardeningsolutions.ifas.ufl.edu/care/pests-and-diseases/diseases/lethal-bronzing-disease/

Exactly, I was just about to make that point. @jwitt, who's to say that the palm you're referring to isn't an F5 or F6? But I would think that if the hybrid palm is filifera dominant the majority of seedlings should also be filifera dominant.

From what I understand in your scenario 50% of the F2 seedlings would resemble the parent F1 (filibusta), 25% would resemble filifera and 25% would resemble robusta. Because of the ease of hybridization with Washingtonia there aren't many "pure" robusta or filifera around here (or "pure" F1 hybrids). Maybe it's different in your neck of the woods.

Yes, I believe your spot situated as it is, is one of the best microclimates in the metro. I think that is why the NWS did a revamp. They did not believe what they were seeing, or did not jive with what they thought they would see. My thoughts. My Trachy sets seed, but I believe they are sterile. I forgot what the actual term is.

@NMPalmjunky As far as washingtonia, @Ltapia did have some Rayado seed in the past. The San Mateo filifera did bloom, so it may also have seed. Personally, I am going to try to get some moapa seed in the near future, this winter. I am personally out of any washie seed. But if that changes, I will let you know. I also seeded minor and had them coming up for several years. But my watering skills(lack) proved fatal in the end.

wow those are truly beautiful with their zebra variegation. thanks for sharing

Harry, this palm is almost always available from Jeff at Floribunda. I have purchased "1-gallon" sized plants that had emergent stems and flowerstalks.

I just love my “Ernie” . They are great shade plants . I plan to get more when I see them available. Harry

The palms have been removed from this grove. I will follow up with an explanation as to why. It has to do with my personal Arctic experience and mostly the Texas palmageddon. For me, in my(our) climate/location, the "grove" (seeding in place)cannot be beat as far as growth. It all ties into the original reasoning of this post. The next closest is planting very young, strap to 2 years old. Give me a bit, results are forthcoming. I will leave it at that. If interested in doing the seeding in place, now is the time for seed collection. Hint/hint!

I am enjoying these! Thanks to those posting.

I like the ice blue looks with my palms

Very nice Chrysalidocarpus. Glad to see seedlings are popping. In my experience, Chrysalidocarpus and Dypsis hybrids do not produce viable seed all on their own. In rare cases, they produce a few seedlings when they get donor pollen from neighboring palms. So, this is likely a pure (undescribed) species. Keep up the good work! JD

Who knows where my label went as I have had this beauty before I switched to secure stainless steel and brother EZ tape labels. Your help much appreciated to find the correct genus and species as an online search just left me confused.

As you leave the Pacific Islands planters you approach the Madagascar planter on the right. On the left, next to Rocky 2 is one of three Chambeyronia (Kentiopsis) Oliviformis: Chrysalidocarpus Sp. Ambanja: Chrysalidocarpus ifanadianae on the left and Blue Decipiens / Betefaka on the right, with the Robustus Hybrid behind it: This photo is for @iDesign, Chrysalidocarpus Decipiens Hybrid. Setting seed now and I need to try to germinate to see if it’s good:

I feel like fertilizing can sometimes be as simple, or as complicated, as you want it to be. For a simple solution, you could get some Sunniland palm fertilizer, apply 3-4x per year, and call it a day. Most common and hardy palms would be happy with that, Just be careful with cheap fertilizers, because it you overdo it, they can burn the hell out of things, especially grass. I’ve toasted spots in the lawn with that stuff. If you have good soil, a little fertilizer goes a long way. You should always be trying to build your soil. It’s the one of the environmental variables you can control, and I think of it as one of the “4 pillars” that determine what you can grow. (Sunlight, Water, Soil, and Temperature). They can’t always be controlled, but sometimes you can tip the needle a little. Building your soil is an ongoing process, where you are adding what is naturally lacking. It’s on ongoing process. Here my natural soil is like pure calcareous sand. So it’s mulch, manure, peat, leaves... stuff like that… over and over and over. Other parts of the country, you might be adding sand and gravel, or raking up the fall leaf-drop to use. It depends. For high quality Palm fertilizers, I use Palm Tree Saver… https://store.palmtreesaver.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=1841 and have pretty good luck. I also use palm gain, but after the shortages, not as much anymore. There are other better brands too. I also need a lot of extra potassium and magnesium, so I add those extras on certain palms. If I get Manganese or iron issues, I add that, and I might add a little borax if boron deficiency starts. …..you can always add individual components as needed, but remember, they often have antagonism to a partner element… https://www.palmbeachpalmcycadsociety.com/documents/PalmNutritionalDeficiencyCorrectionAndAntagonisticNutritionalRelationships.pdf I also do some naughtier stuff, like use a little Scott’s Lawn fertilizer, or Miracle Grow granules, when palms need a shot of steroids or critical care. But that’s easy to screw up if you get carried away. A little crack and some steroids never hurt anybody, right???

My plants (not only palms) grow like crazy with nice lush leaves since I applied goat manure. I think I'll stick to manure from now on.

Here's mine in 9a Houston. I only bought it last spring so this was it's first winter for me and of course it was the coldest in 30+ years, so basically a 8b winter. Was completely defoliated after 15 degrees with protection but is rebounding. Most of the trunks survived but it's slow. It's a shame, was probably the nicest, most tropical looking palm in my yard and it was well above the 6' fence before the freeze.

Here's additional data Killed scorched L. saribus ( green) <16 F (1989 surv) b L. sarbus (wine colored) ? 21 F (2001 ) L, australis >16F (1989) L. drudei <19F 20-25F L. fulva <19 20-25 L. robinsaniana 25 L. chinensis <10F (some alive from 83 and 85) mine were scorched badly in 1989 L, muelli < 19F 22-25 L rigida < 10F Merrill s survived in 1985 one at Kanapaha that has seen what has happend since then I had L. chinensis L. australis and saribus out in 1989 --- firt year planting so these were 3 gallons L. australis was the only one killed All the other species were planted after 1989 so havent really seen below 19F so the lethal point is probably between 15 and 20, Scorching has beeen variable some years its just the older bottom leaves die real fast after words and the tops arent bohtered. Many times we have bad droughts afterwords that probably factor. 2001 and 2010 we had real hard winters -- never got below 20 or so but weeks of freezes and this was when alot of the scorching occurred. My experiences here in Jax

These are the hardiest Livistona, easily tolerate into the lower 20sF australis boninensis chinensis decora (decipiens) mariae nitida saribus (green petiole form) This group of Livistona are half hardy, good into the mid 20sF benthamii concinna drudeii fulva jenkinsiana lanuginosa muelleri nasmophila rigida saribus (maroon petiole form) speciosa These are the most tender, below 28-29F will severely burn them carinensis endauensis merrillii (now Saribus merrillii) robinsoniana (now Saribus robinsonianus) rotundifolia (now Saribus rotundifolius) woodfordii (now Saribus woodfordii) These are dry climate palms, I have never gotten them to survive here so don't know how hardy they are alfredii eastonii humilis inermis lorophylla victoriae