Leaderboard

These pictures were sent to me today by a friend in China of the habitat of trachycarpus nanus who collects the seeds. China is such a beautiful country there pictures I would never get to see as tourists in China absolutely beautiful place. The snow covered mountains are near the nanus habitat. Amazing to see enjoy.

Arenga engleri

Define Cold Hardy, it means different things to different people. That's a small list for me - Needle Palm, Chamaerops and Serenoa. That's it.

I just used Google Street view , and found this view. Image capture was Oct. of this year . There is some construction happening along the roadway . Looks like various irrigation etc work in the Right of ways . The orange barrels seen along the road tell the tale . The Boxes are probably there to help to protect the trees .

I am closer to the epicenter than Jim, didn't feel a thing, typical over-reaction by the mass media.

@jwitt I was not aware of the RR2 weather station location. I will need to look into the stats further. With that being said, I believe that there is a microclimate on the hillside between 528 and the pump station. The area has almost completely filled in over the last decade since I planted my first palms. I’m not sure if they are male or female, but I get these flowers on my two larger trachys. you are welcome to as many minor seeds (or seedlings) as you would like.

@jwitt I made my way to the future palm oasis of central New Mexico. It’s about a mile from house and a beautiful walk ok this pleasant sunny December day of 60 degrees. I didn’t find of your seedlings, but I planted many more Sabal Minor seeds. I did the same in the flood reservoir that is behind my neighborhood in trinity estates too.

I have two 1-gallon starts of this calla for give away, no shipping, you must visit my garden ! https://www.plantdelights.com/products/zantedeschia-aethiopica-white-giant

Potted up a few Ernest Augustii seedlings from rps seeds. There is about 240 Augustii along with a few lacospadix in there. A tray of adscedans and some Calpytrocalyx spicatus up the back. I love chameadoreas one of my favourite small palms to grow

It is sad, but amusing how few different palms are commonly seen in PR nurseries and how little information is there. I saw this one a few days ago with no label and no price. The nice employee said it was rare and had been there a long time. She called someone to get a price of $40 quite pricey by PR standards. Funny when I asked the name she put her phone in charge and let whatever app identify it as Trachycarpus fortunei. I am thinking Coccothrinax and I like the stiff thin leaflets regardless of the name-if that trait persists into adulthood. They have put it aside for me to consider. I explained about hybridization and how if I got it I would need to at least plant it far away from others that I hope are species. They are considering a lower price if they can’t name it. What’s your guess? The owner of the business will return tomorrow and he MAY remember more.

For those curious about the root structure,this appears to be a VERY deep rooted species. Habitat is almost desert like,so it makes sense. Roots would mainly go straight down in search of water, without much side rooting. Looks like they should have been grown in deep stuewe or citrus pots instead of standard 1 gallons,but who knew...?🤷‍♂️ aztropic Mesa, Arizona

A late wonder around the garden starting at the house walking up the backyard. There is a transition from the tropical wet section of the garden, to a dry rocky area moving back down the hill towards the house again the garden changes again with dry tolerant plants on a north west facing slope so plenty of hot afternoon sun up there. It’s a complete transition in comparison to the bottom section below the house with joeys, licualas and all sorts of tropical palms and water loving exotics all within about 25 meters distance from each other its amazing what you can create with a canopy and a bit of irrigation if I was to irrigate the top section it would be a lot of water to create what is in the bottom section.

My good friend Phil who is retiring from all his pot plants and hanging baskets, has kindly given me a rather large clump or should I say a Ute load of dancing lady orchids. There a fantastic display when in flower and this lot will go as a huge border in the garden somewhere iam sure there is a spot somewhere out there in the jungle that has a bright hot sunny position that will accommodate them.

Hope this part of the forum is appropriate for this. California people check in. Hope all are well.

@DoomsDave that’s where I got mine and I saw many more there . When I make it back down there I will get a few more! Now that I know how well they do . Harry

I have some Ernie augies, too!

I don't think it works quite like that - the 25/50/25 ratios work for specific genes in an F2 cross. But then multiply those probabilities across all the genes that are guiding the plants' growth, and it becomes much more interesting! Also, this tree itself might not even be an F1!

I almost gave up on needle palms after the main trunk froze and died the first winter. The pups survived and have grown great since. It would probably be much healthier with more acidic soil and more water, but I’m happy with it.

I have 16 Rayado seeds, collected the end of October. I am currently germinating 5 of them to see if they're viable. I have about 80 Filifera seedlings going now, between 1-2 months old as well. More in the germination process.

@NMPalmjunky Save me some minor seeds and I'll work on getting some filifera seed. Give me a couple months. Ps. Does your Trachy bloom? Needing some pollen this spring....if male. Pss that pump station in your neighborhood was the Corrales weather station for some time. I think it really confused the NWS, so they returned it near the river and created another(RR2) near the future palm 🌴 oasis.

This is the flood area closer to my house and the mother Sabal.

I got hopes for that spot. Gonna come down to timing and luck!

Didn’t feel a thing here. 7.0 on the Richter scale is a big one but several miles off the north coast in the Pacific so minimal impact on land. My phone blasted a Tsunami warning but none occurred.

Large pure unhybridized Phoenix species are pretty much instant death around here now. Feral Phoenix hybrids seem unaffected most likely because they have Pygmy date genes in them. Pygmy dates seem to be more resistant to LB

Fresh Clinostigma sp.

Here are current pix of my Zantesdeschia aethiopica (striped Calla lily) at the start of winter here. Where I am it has a very brief dormant period then sends up new leaves fast! I grow it in a pot, under the shade of my pergola.

No, it's not expensive, I can find one in a 6 gallon pot, 6 ft 7 inch (including leaves, but it already has some trunk) for 110 € (like 116 USD I think). I like Phoenix roebelenii too, I wanted one in a pot for the porch but knowing it can manage water I may put in in the ground too. Thanks!

Trachycarpus fortunei are the toughest SOB's alive. Those things can survive a nuclear blast while the remaining areas is charred. Here is a our recent "first freeze"

Thanks! I love that palm I didn't realize the meaning of the name. I can find some specimens relatively easy here.

That's a killer Calla!

Still going. There are many healthy looking CIDPs in the greater neighborhood (and throughout San Francisco), but they seem to suffer a bit in the last few outer avenues of the Sunset District. This species does not appear to suffer the same fate in comparable proximity to the ocean just down the coast in the town of Santa Cruz where my brother lives. Whatever the reasons, I suspect their stunted growth or premature death could likely be overcome with a minimum of care (that they're unlikely to receive here).

There is no F15, hybrids stop at F7. If a hybrid is stable at F7 it is considered true beeding.

Yep we get the same thing when hurricanes come thru.

Just baby it with fertilizer and water in spring, get rid of the plant competition 2' out. It will take 1-2 years to look good.

Hi Rasan, welcome to the PalmTalk! This washingtonia looks fine to me. The oldest leaf bases that are near to the ground are just rotting off. No cause for concern, just makes it look a bit shaggy, but this can be cleaned up by removing the loose/dried out material. The growth in the crown looks very healthy!

@NMPalmjunky As far as washingtonia, @Ltapia did have some Rayado seed in the past. The San Mateo filifera did bloom, so it may also have seed. Personally, I am going to try to get some moapa seed in the near future, this winter. I am personally out of any washie seed. But if that changes, I will let you know. I also seeded minor and had them coming up for several years. But my watering skills(lack) proved fatal in the end.

@jwittI would definitely be interested in seeding in place something other than Sabal minor. Do you know of any reliable local seed sources? Here are some pictures of some of my minor seedlings. I have plenty more minor sees if interested.

Rats have exspensive taste you gotta give em that. Champagne taste on a beer budget pretty clever.

It appears to be a Coccothrinax hybrid with a little borhidiana (fiber type) in it. I have a couple community pots going of these borhidiana hybrids. Here's one of mine to compare. Anyways,that's my guess. Is that in a 1 gallon pot? aztropic Mesa, Arizona

LB takes out native Sabal palms that grew through natural processes here though I do think it has slowed down a little thankfully

The palms have been removed from this grove. I will follow up with an explanation as to why. It has to do with my personal Arctic experience and mostly the Texas palmageddon. For me, in my(our) climate/location, the "grove" (seeding in place)cannot be beat as far as growth. It all ties into the original reasoning of this post. The next closest is planting very young, strap to 2 years old. Give me a bit, results are forthcoming. I will leave it at that. If interested in doing the seeding in place, now is the time for seed collection. Hint/hint!

I like the ice blue looks with my palms

Very nice Chrysalidocarpus. Glad to see seedlings are popping. In my experience, Chrysalidocarpus and Dypsis hybrids do not produce viable seed all on their own. In rare cases, they produce a few seedlings when they get donor pollen from neighboring palms. So, this is likely a pure (undescribed) species. Keep up the good work! JD

Coming out of the Madagascar area you arrive at the Jungle Planter that I mentioned previously. This was the first area planted out about 3.5 years ago. There are 5 Areca Catechu in this area, all from dwarf seed and you can see that they are not dwarfs! A couple of them I call semi dwarf due to their tight ring spacing and stockier over all size. more of the Jungle Planter: Once past the Jungle area you arrive at the top of the driveway with these Chrysalidocarpus Lastellianus: Across the driveway and now walking down the other fence line. This is the backside of the planter with the tall Ptychococus shown previously. Verschafeltii Splendida on the right: Heading down the fence and towards the ocean, this fence line is also lined with Pinanga Coronata. On the right are a couple Normanbya and then 3 Hyophorbe Indica Red: A closer look at the Hyophorbe Indica Red: And the final stretch now will one day be a narrow tunnel with P. Coronata on the left and on the right is a row of 10 Euterpe Oleracea: thanks for looking!

These are from last year. They are blurry for some reason unless you click on them. This is zone 7 so no uber tropicals

I visited La Carbonera (aka Tochecito) earlier today, and it more than lived up to its billing. These are quick and dirty edits from my laptop, so when I get home in a couple weeks and have my main computer, I'll make sure to update this post with more photos.

Here's mine in 9a Houston. I only bought it last spring so this was it's first winter for me and of course it was the coldest in 30+ years, so basically a 8b winter. Was completely defoliated after 15 degrees with protection but is rebounding. Most of the trunks survived but it's slow. It's a shame, was probably the nicest, most tropical looking palm in my yard and it was well above the 6' fence before the freeze.

Here's additional data Killed scorched L. saribus ( green) <16 F (1989 surv) b L. sarbus (wine colored) ? 21 F (2001 ) L, australis >16F (1989) L. drudei <19F 20-25F L. fulva <19 20-25 L. robinsaniana 25 L. chinensis <10F (some alive from 83 and 85) mine were scorched badly in 1989 L, muelli < 19F 22-25 L rigida < 10F Merrill s survived in 1985 one at Kanapaha that has seen what has happend since then I had L. chinensis L. australis and saribus out in 1989 --- firt year planting so these were 3 gallons L. australis was the only one killed All the other species were planted after 1989 so havent really seen below 19F so the lethal point is probably between 15 and 20, Scorching has beeen variable some years its just the older bottom leaves die real fast after words and the tops arent bohtered. Many times we have bad droughts afterwords that probably factor. 2001 and 2010 we had real hard winters -- never got below 20 or so but weeks of freezes and this was when alot of the scorching occurred. My experiences here in Jax

These are the hardiest Livistona, easily tolerate into the lower 20sF australis boninensis chinensis decora (decipiens) mariae nitida saribus (green petiole form) This group of Livistona are half hardy, good into the mid 20sF benthamii concinna drudeii fulva jenkinsiana lanuginosa muelleri nasmophila rigida saribus (maroon petiole form) speciosa These are the most tender, below 28-29F will severely burn them carinensis endauensis merrillii (now Saribus merrillii) robinsoniana (now Saribus robinsonianus) rotundifolia (now Saribus rotundifolius) woodfordii (now Saribus woodfordii) These are dry climate palms, I have never gotten them to survive here so don't know how hardy they are alfredii eastonii humilis inermis lorophylla victoriae