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When I was living in Arizona in 2008, I saw a really nice p. rupicola triple at treeland in chandler. I was inspired by the curved trunks and nice green canopy. When I moved to florida I found a nursery MB palms that carried 1g size rupicolas. I liked the rupicola for its cold tolerance(26F) and its bright green foliage. It also has thorns that don't hurt you, they bend at the base of the thorn. Having been stabbed many times by my various phoenix species I grew in Arizona, I was interested in a pain free trimming process. This triple was planted in early summer 2011 and has been a slow, easy care grower. I thought it might be a permanent hedge but now it looks as if its going to be exactly what I wanted, an attractive medium height canopy for filtering hot western sun. It has fruited 3x the last one a full load of striking red fruits(sorry, no picture). The three palms grew away from each other more than any triple I ever tried, no need to tilt a palm when planting. Here is a pic taken today of the overall palm, and a close up of the trunks. just after a post hurricane Milton trim of the many(30-35) dead leaves After many of my other palms have grown tall and more difficult to view into the crown this one still gives a nice crown view. Anybody out there have phoenix rupicola pic/experiences. they would like to share. For scale, the fence is 4'.

I’ve have the pleasure of undertaking the task of caretaking a felid of Sabal Palmetto I never dreamed possible around 25 years ago another farmer named John planted his field with 25g mutant sable palms trees. I’m almost positives introduced to him by a man that worked for him at the time.Mr Robert R, will call him for short. So if you know the story already, the trees known today as Sabal Lisa (named after Robert’s wife Lisa) a dwarf stiff mutation of the Sabal Palmetto. A tree I never knew anyone would have spent the time to plant a field of. Well they did!! I heard a field existed so hunt for them I did, With no expectations of course. Believe it when I see it, I told myself. Well I’ve had people tell me story’s before in moments of there own discovery, as “shaking in my boots” well shaking i’m by boots I did!!! Ask my son who was with me at the time. What’s wrong dad said Eli like Oh nothing son trying not to hug the trees and cry like a woman at the adoption clinic. I said let’s adopt all of them!!! Ok he said, not knowing what the big deal is. shrugged his shoulders and walks back to the car. I actually looked up to the sky and said something at that point “please God” Well long story short adopt i did? And now I’m broke!!!! living in 1980 school buss in that field. My background is exotic garden design and plenty of them i’ve done. Burnt out on vanity gardens for people that don’t know the difference's from xmass palms to a Kentiopsis. I took the dive it’s quite a transition. Now i’m another broke farmer named john. Sill no less exited, I haven’t had to answer the phone! So far i’ve got some iron water to come out of the old shallow well in the middle of the field and decided to sub irrigate the trees putting slow release down and root pruning. It’s my understanding form other nurseryman and my own personal stupid decisions like digging sable minors in the winter. It’s best to wait till march. Well here we are!!!! So this week end I made a redneck sign sat in a red neck town and tried to sell them on the side of the road? No one stopped to ask how much but i’m glad cuz they would have lift faster then they showed up. It’s a hard sell 6’ at 500.00 bucks even though it’s a good price if you don’t know what it is or the story behind it a hard sell. So here I am reaching out the the palmtalk group to ask for help to continue the research of this little little known Palm Named “Lisa” Please help another broke farmer John feed the trees (and himself) call 9413909071 or e-mail swmpcablive@icloud.com for more info. Thanks John G

Hybridism is many times a natural process of evolution together with mutation. Almost all crops are the result of hybridization with local related wild spp. It is an illusion to believe, that wheat or rice cultivated in northern Europe and Korea respectively are the same with the originally domesticated plants in the fertile crescent and southern China. We humans are also a result of hybridization. How about a Phoenix hybrid, which is resistant or less attractive to weevils? Yes you have guessed correctly, Phoenix hybrids up to now are not preferred by rpw. In a recent congress in Philippines, it was discussed the possibility of dactylifera x theophrasti hybrids as more resistant to rpw.

Here is how my Queen palm looks following the ultimate low of 21F. Just a bit of tip damage on the most exposed frond. The newest frond opening is quite droopy som I’m not sure if that was from the cold or maybe the wind? The only protection this palm got was from being enshrouded on 4 sides by filifera fronds and a small Crepe Myrtle. I’ve since trimmed back some of those fan palm fronds to give it a bit more breathing room and sunlight. Also shown are my young Washingtonia robustas. Planted May ‘23 from 1 gallon they are growing great. Some bronzing of fronds mostly from the cold two weeks ago, but not set back at all.

And here are a few more photos from around San Antonio. The last few are from today.

I went to Houston a few weeks back and saw these beautiful Butias:

I was over at Pauline Sullivan’s house ( now her grandson ) checking for seeds . I took this photo , looking up. Probably the parent to many Decipiens that are in North America. There are two very large specimens near the street. This is the largest . Harry I am 6’ tall looking up! I think I see a smile!

Here’s a double (formerly triple) in the front garden showing of some color.

It' s sunny today after two weeks of cold and rain, so I ' ll take some new pictures of my C. decipiens after arriving home.

This was just announced on Facebook, he only has these public sales once a year. Any Central Florida and especially the Orlando area palm lovers this is your personal heads up. I can vouch for his selection and friendliness. It's a beautiful property with many hard to find rare exotic palms. I'll certainly be attending.

I know which commercial landscape Gardner you are talking about, and she is referring to Archontophoenix alexandrae. She should not be calling them Alexander King Palms because, like another poster said above, in Florida that typically means Ptychosperma elegans.

This is the problem with people using common names instead of the scientific names. Typically "Alexander Palm" refers to Ptychosperma elegans and "Alexandra King Palm" refers to Archontophoenix alexandrae (sometimes mistakenly called Alexander King Palm). The Ptychosperma has a thinner trunk, is less cold hardy and only reaches half the height of the Archontophoenix.

Hot take: Phoenix dactylifera shouldn't be planted on a mass scale in FL.

I’ve have the pleasure of undertaking the task of caretaking a felid of Sabal Palmetto I never dreamed possible around 25 years ago another farmer named John planted his field with 25g mutant sable palms trees. I’m almost positives introduced to him by a man that worked for him at the time.Mr Robert R, will call him for short. So if you know the story already, the trees known today as Sabal Lisa (named after Robert’s wife Lisa) a dwarf stiff mutation of the Sabal Palmetto. A tree I never knew anyone would have spent the time to plant a field of. Well they did!! I was heard a field of lisa existed so hunt for them I did. With no expectations. Believe it when I see it I told myself.I’ve hade people tell me story’s of there own discovery as “shaking in my boots” well shaking i’m by boots I did. You can ask my son who was with me at the time. What’s wrong dad? Eli asked, Oh nothing son, trying not to hug the trees and cry like a woman at the adoption clinic. I said let’s adopt all of them!!! Ok he said, not knowing what the big deal is. shrugged his shoulders and walks back to the car. I might have actually looked up to the sky and said something at that point (please God) Well long story short adopt i did? And now I’m broke!!!! living in 1980 school buss in that field. My background is in exotic garden design and plenty of them i’ve done. Burnt out on vanity gardens for people that don’t know the difference's from xmass palms to a Kentiopsis. It’s a bit of a transition. Sill no less exited, I haven’t had to answer the phone! So far i’ve got some iron water to come out of the old shallow well in the middle of the field and decided to sub irrigate the trees. Spreading slow release and root pruning. It’s my understanding form other nurseryman and my own personal stupid decisions like digging sable minors in the winter. It’s best to wait till march. Well here we are!!!! So this week end I made a redneck sign sat in a red neck town and tried to sell them on the side of the road? No one stopped to ask how much but i’m glad cuz if they asked the price would have left faster then they showed up. Five hundred for a six foot trees is a hard sell if you don’t know what you’re looking at or the story behind it even if it’s a good deal. So i’m reaching out to the palmtalk community to help the continued research of this little little known tree The Sabal Lisa. By purchasing one today you can help another broke farmer named John feed the trees and himself!! For more information call 9413909071 or Email Swmpcablive@icloud.com Thank you John G

I made these 3 hybrids roebelenii x reclinata roebelenii x dactylifera roebelenii x rupicola, few seeds they are completely different from the parents

A true collectors palm the Areca vestiaria highly ornamental a small power wash was used to clean the flesh off the seeds coco peat perlite mixture with 30 degrees Celsius bottom heating will be the preferred method of propagation time will tell how many germinate

New Palms for the Spring Season We are ringing in the Spring season with a brand new price list, new palms for your nursery / garden, alongside our extensive list of rare and exotic species. First we have a restock of Kentiopsis piersoniorum (pictured above). This New Caledonian beauty adds a dramatic flair to any garden and is sought after, and Floribunda is one of the only places you can find it, available now as seedlings for $25.00. We continue our New Caledonian theme with Cyphophoenix nucele, a palm that has a beautiful white crownshaft and upright leaves, available in 4in size for $8.50. Basselinia glabrata is an amazing talking point in the garden, with its interesting stacked inflorescences. These are available as 1 gallon sized plants at $20.00. Hailing from São Paulo, Brazil, Lytocaryum hoehnei is endangered in the wild, but you can help preserve or distribute it to add it to more gardens and preserve this beautiful species. Seedlings available now for $4.00. Reinhardtia latisecta from Central America has amazing wide leaflets and beautiful inflorescences. A wonderful clustering understory palm for warmer climates. All this and more are on our new price list, enter (N) into the search to filter out the new items, but don't forget to explore the rest of the list for old favorites! We also have the trunking cycad Lepidozamia hopeii available in our cycad section! https://floribunda.xyz/pricelist

It was a beautiful autumn day wondering around the gardens. I only got to see a little piece of it with much more on display. Looks like a return trip is needed to see more.

Collorfull crownshaft of a Crysalidocarpus ( Dypsis) decipiens after old boot was removed today

Does anyone have a 2025 price list?

Konstantinos, they are doing great here, one of the best species to grow, I have 3 in the garden, I like them so much and they don't need any care

Awesome palms Tom! I bought this field dug rupicola in 2023. Perhaps now I have a better understanding of why it didn't survive a full year for me in alkaline soil during a hot drought in spite of adequate irrigation. I don't think it was 100% pure since the thorns were fairly rigid. Interestingly last year I planted one that I grew from seed and it's doing fine - no damage at 27°F.

Mine seems to like the summer rains but its in high drainage soil. My experience in Arizona was that in full sun with high heat and dry humidity will most palms will need plenty of water. The low humidity plus intense sun plus heat each elevate evapotranspiration losses. The one in treeland saw 110F+ days(~30 per year) and very low humidity for the spring dry season as low as 6%. Treeland has a water feature near it ensuring plenty of water and it was somewhat protected by other palms from the western sun(the worst sun damage after a long sunny/dry day). I think in the dry hot times, lots of water is necessary. I do feel fortunate hearing of your challenges, perhaps summer florida rain and not my gardening skills are responsible for the health of my rupicolas.

Perhaps ot almost surely the most tricky exotic Phoenix in my garden. It hates salts, it hates too alkaline soil, it hates too wet but also too dry, it hates full summer sun in a dry environment but is also susceptible to scales during summer. I begin considering whether it hates me too and wants to depart...

A nice display of fantastic bonsai in the gardens.

Yer I don’t like Coffs lived there all my life, best move I ever made was to halfway creek far enough away from Coffs. You could be in luck if the cyclone gets me remember my entire collection goes to you, hope you got room for all the rare collectors palms your going to need it, you can leave all the clumping palms behind if you like and send them to @tim_brissy_13 he has lots of room for them.

We all get killed by Cyclone Andrew tomorrow ?

Not where I live. It is, like many suburbs here, at sea level.

Nice set up 70% is the go you will need the humidity to grow red arecas. You can go to 30% for hardening off. Some setup’s have 70% with spaces of no shade cloth to let some sunshine in to harden off plants.

Wanted to showcase a couple of my Chamaerops humilis var. argentea. Slow growing species that does wonderfully under many different growing conditions. Nice blue accent palm for a smaller yard.👍 aztropic Mesa, Arizona

Richard I did it for the passion of plants, not for money, I'm jealous of my hybrids, they even offered me money, I refused, I want to keep them, I like them so much, but be careful not all hybrids succeed many times I have had failures

Good on her there is no age limit to get interested in anything, actually I don’t think there is an age limit in life at all. I could see you skydiving bungee jumping marlin fishing the list is endless….. Richard

70% is the go for most palms. Go for a gravel floor to help increase humidity and grow on bench’s a much cleaner environment, and don’t let the weeds in once they set seed in a greenhouse it’s very difficult to get rid of them. Good Luck.

This red Areca vestiaria frond popped open the last few days. Took all winter to get there but looks good.

Hardly surprising in this day and age for the UK... but the area of Brixham in Devon has finally updated on Google maps for the first time in a decade or so, and well... CIDP is doing it's thing there, expectantly.. (this palm has never been posted on here before)... A few more in Brixham...

I bit the bullet and planted a California Fan Palm (or what I believe to be a very pure Washingtonia Filifera) at the advice of the Plant World staff in Albuquerque. I planted it in a protected spot near the house by the fence. Got a really good deal, massive 15 gallon for $200. Asking for care advice, and also if these need protection. The California Fan Palms outside of Bahama Bucks seem to be thriving, but they are protected. There are also many unprotected palms in Roswell. We had an exceptionally cold winter and all the established palms seem to be fine. Pic attached.

Yay! You will enjoy this palm. They are so beautiful and I find them to be fast growing in pots. I thought they would be more fussy about humidity growing indoors but have been pleasantly surprised.

This is so helpful and gives me a direction to look at. Thanks everyone!

Wow, 70 seems high! Humidity we had in spades here, but I completely agree on the set up. I currently do a lot of transplanting over grass and mulch, and am not a fan but I make it work for now, lol. I am putting the shade house up on a converted tennis court, and I grow the little guys in grid tables with just under 300 1g pots per table. Eventually, most of my stuff needs to move into full sun, so I am looking to optimize the hardening off process, although that does not apply to those that need some shade indefinitely. Here’s a pic of 1 of my tables and my current shade solution wrapped around one leg… 🤣

The "fringe" is normal. Many palms will have loose filaments at the leaf margins.

I decided the pull the trigger and repot the 4 washingtonias for the sole reason that we are having so much wind that they keep falling over and losing soil with roots exposed so I am afraid of keeping them in their original pots. Tomorrow we are supposed to have 15-25 mph winds with gusts of 45 mph winds. Will be waiting 2-3 more weeks to plant the other ones straight into the ground though. Praying we don’t drop below freezing anymore and it looks to be that way so far. Wish me luck everybody 🤞🏼

60f isn't uncommon during Jan or February here. We had over 60f a week ago and it's forecasted to be 60f again next week. However to get consistently above 60f we have to wait till April.

Chambeyronia macrocarpa var flavopicta caught my eye.

While not as pretty as the rest on this thread, I noticed how white and powdery my Dypsis Onilahensis Upright was this morning. It’s been busy pushing pups and a new doinker the last few years instead of going vertical. 3.5yrs from a small 5G single stick. -dale

I almost forgot I planted this calyptrocalyx back there I seen the red leaf and had to go investigate and the iguanura always looks good

Wow really missed this whole water issue. I think simply from reading the post, I come to realize you are misinformed about California in general and for how our water system works. For starters, the area that recently burned is far from being a forest. The rhetoric of "clearing the forest of fuel" does not translate well at all in chaparral vegetation - what exactly are you clearing? The entirety of the vegetative cover? I mean, sure, you can take a scraper and scrape the mountainside bare of vegetation but at the sight of any rain, it would resprout like a chia pet. That's assuming you can drive a scraper up and down the steep mountainsides, over boulders and rocks and off down sheer cliffs. Also, good luck with the mudslides with any amount of rain. Just to get a few things cleared up: California does controlled burns all the time. I'm not sure where the rhetoric comes from but it sure has a big audience. Second, CalFire will let a fire burn if it's not threatening the human population, not sure where that rhetoric comes from either, but we don't put out every fire. That would be impossible. Again, for those unfamiliar with the terrain - try extinguishing a wildfire in the deep sierra at 9k feet in elevation, far from any roads or access points. Those fires will burn all summer and they'll be extinguished by winter snows. I know because from my home in Fresno I see plumes of smoke coming from the Sierra all summer long most summers. Newsom destroying dams??? Not sure what talking point this is about. I'm not here as a Newsome apologist - but there's water to be had. Has anyone in the city of Los Angeles ever gone without water? I don't think so. Water is always prioritized for urban areas - so the fact that fire fighters in the Palisades ran out of water was not because the city lacked access to water. Sure, mismanagement at the local level with ensuring the LOCAL dam had repairs and held water played a part - but let's not pretend the city of Los Angeles was on any type of water ration. We have plenty of water storage capacity - what we lack is water falling from the sky in the way of snow and rain. When was the San Luis Reservoir or Millerton Lake ever at full capacity? Or New Melones, or San Pedro, or Folsom, or Oroville, or... you get the point. When water rationing happens, it's farmers who are largely left to ration and sell what they get. Los Angeles, San Francisco and all of the cities in the state are first to get their water allotments. Heck, even Fresno (at the foot of one of the largest rivers coming out of the Sierra) rations residential water while it sends water (via the Delta & CA Aqueduct) to Los Angeles for unbridled use. (yes, water flows north first, then south) BTW, if we didn't let any fresh water go out of our dams into the Delta, we'd be pumping sea water into the aqueduct and into taps in Los Angeles. The encroaching sea water would pollute some of the most fertile farmland in the nation as well. Let's stop with the misinformation and political rhetoric. Not only do salmon and smelt need fresh water in the delta, so do 18M plus humans in Southern California.

These most recent fires have been an eye-opener for sure. Many of the really devastating fires in California occurred in more remote areas, and I often thought "well, I'm safe from that," living near the coast in a fairly dense suburb with lots of services nearby. Now it's clear there are no places safe from fire in California. The truth is my cute little 1941 kit house would burn like wadded-up newspaper if there were any serious fire nearby -- regardless of any landscaping decisions. The only decision for me, should there be a fire, is "which escape route is best?" After my experience with the volcanic eruption 2 streets away from my 2nd home on Hawaii Island, I have drawn a firm line between life and possessions. One is essential, the other is nothing. Having a list of Needs and secondary Wants to toss in a bag before One Last Look is my fire response plan.

Unwrapped it today

I have only ever seen the orange vestiara, didn't know there was a red one too. Some people say there is a single trunk version of vestiara but I have only ever found clumping specimens, therefore never bothered with them. If you get a red one with a single trunk please put my name on it. Peachy