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Well , no Joey here but the Huntington has a beauty! About 6’ tall and very nice. The only one I have seen in person. I encourage anyone in Southern California to make the trip if you can . The Glass House is amazing . The Joey is just one of many palms that are not commonly seen in our climate. Harry Yes , it really is nice The outdoor palm area is also very nice , as well as the other large gardens . All are very well cared for. Harry

Amazing story of survival in your jungle Kim! I was fortunate to get one of these this past summer since I finally have some canopy to plant it under.

A large clump of Acoelorraphe wrightii

Upon request by the owners and IPS president Andy Hurwitz I am posting information about a one of a kind legacy property available for sale in Hawaii. PT is not normally the correct venue for real estate ads, but I believe when you read more you will see why an exception is made here. Although memories of my visit there in 2022 will forever be etched in my mind, please address inquiries to the owners, not to me personally. Please see information and photos from the owners: A New Chapter for Casa de Las Palmas We purchased Casa de Las Palmas in 2017 from the estate of legendary nurseryman Jerry Hunter. Jerry was the owner of Rancho Soledad Nurseries in California, Palms of Paradise in Hawaii, and Mount Soledad in Pacific Beach. Dubbed the "Dean of California Landscape Architects", he held license #33. His designs are found throughout the San Diego area, including San Diego Zoo, Balboa Botanical Gardens, and a host of other public and private venues. Along with collecting and hybridizing many new plant varieties, he built the first plant tissue culture laboratory in San Diego. Casa de Las Palmas was Jerry's private Hawaiian retreat. Over the course of 35 years, Jerry transformed seven acres of upper Hilo farmland into a true garden masterpiece, creating a magical realm of exotic palms, waterfalls, meandering lava-rock paths, water gardens, and flowering tropical plants. Now over 45 years since planting began, it's a vast and mature botanical collection of rare palms, cycads, philodendrons, bromeliads, anthuriums and orchids. We have been honored to be the caretakers, but the time has come for us to move on, so we are offering the property for sale. Before we list it on the open market, we want palm and garden lovers to know it is available, in the hope that we can find a custodian for the future. The property has a 2-bedroom, 2-and-a-half-bathroom house with a separate apartment, and potential for additional dwellings. We currently do private garden tours, film shoots, and small events, and there is plenty of room to grow a successful business here. We had the delight of hosting IPS members for a lunch and tour during the 2022 Biennial in Hawaii. Please do contact us if you would like any further information. Irene Francis & Lars Woodruffe 646-338-7882 irenefrancis@hotmail.com https://houseofthepalms.com/

Bulbophyllum 'Wilbur Chang' is STILL blooming. It started in late summer and has had over 20 serial blooms

So was this little tree planting expedition a year ago, 3 joeys poetry in motion! Richard

Your indoor growing requires very similar soil mixs, perhaps with a little less potting mix and a lot of liquid fertiliser!

Absolutely one of my favourites in the palm world. And as most people are aware of there is no shortage of joeys in my part of the world. Your one is an absolute treasure and lucky to survive narrowly avoiding a near death situation from a falling tree! They are actually easy to grow and quite tough, just add water!

Chambeyronia oliviformis powering on and opening a new frond yesterday despite a maximum of 44C/111F with 75km/h (46mph) winds. Tough palm. The nearby Chrysalidocarpus lanceolatus which also decided to open up a frond in the oven wasn’t so lucky. The heat and wind sucked the moisture from the frond and it wilted quickly.

Nice new Lepidorrachis leaf, always eye catching.

Chrysalidocarpus Leucomalla dropped another leaf and features a unique yellow that is almost glowing.

OK, this is about 198 m. About 60 m (196 ft) higher than my own garden. Given the very hot temperature during summer and and the occasional light frost at night during winter plus the windward location, my microclimate is rather unfavorable! In detail, during frosty nights and generally after cold nights I am in need of warming up a.s.a.p. in following morning. Unfortunately sun sets up right behind the slope, where I am located (south-west orientation), meaning that direct sun exposure during winter is delayed, meaning further that frosty conditions may last longer. Conversely during summer sun-scorching conditions last until absolute sundown. Windward location on the other hand plus elevation makes radiation freeze impossible but also average temps are lower. So a situation not ideal at all.

New seeds have arrived

I have looked in to the forecast for Athens and a mere +1 C Is predicted for Monday night. If this is accurate in my garden temperature may fall down to 0 C. Weather station in the weekend house displays a freaky low air pressure, which seems to confirm the forecast. Up to now the outplanted triple Wodyetia seem to resist cold and wind after the initial transplant shock and mechanical loss of an older fronds due to wind. Remaining fronds are steep uniformly green, meaning that root system has adapted to garden soil.

The first little windows are appearing on my Gracilis seedlings. They are really starting to get a nice look about, a great palm for container production. And a nice triphylla in flower, another beautiful little understory palm with a little cool tolerance!

This is the luckiest palm in my garden. Twice it has been narrowly missed by huge falling trees, surviving without so much as a scratch. It even seems to like the decaying Cecropia trunk 1/4" from its base. Love watching this beautiful baby grow. Do you have Johannesteijsmannia magnifica in your garden? Or a photo of one you have admired on a palm tour somewhere in the world? Post your photos here! Not kidding about it being "in the jungle!"

I made the mistake of getting more pots, I planted most of what I had in the ground, then I had brainstorm why not grow palms. Now I don’t know how many pots I have, at least I can I leave them out in winter is one bonus I guess!

lilium tiger bicolor

From Pietro's website, which I trust most, about A. vestiaria: cultivable in the tropical and humid subtropical climate zones, where it can stand drops of temperature, only if exceptional and short-lasting, up to about +5 °C, but not averagely low temperatures for long periods. It requires a semi-shady position and well drained soils, preferably sandy, rich of organic substance, from slightly acidic to neutral, maintained constantly humid

One way to tell if you have magnica joeys, is the seeds are different having a slightly mottled dots pattern on the dry seeds, sort of like a golf ball. Altifrons are just tan brown with no real markings. So if your seedlings still have the seed attached. You can identify them!

Nice one, there strong seedlings carpoxylon, be careful of overwatering them, Ive grown a few over the past, and some have a tendency to up and die for unknown reasons to me, all I could think of was watering too much as seedlings. Once past the seedling stage they seem to be fine and easy to grow liking strong light in the greenhouse. Are the seeds rps ones?

It’s mid summer temperatures here, with a heat wave down south in southern parts of the states with temperatures hitting 44 degrees Celsius in some areas!

@happypalms I mix my own soil up with various ingredients. First is coco coir coarse, perlite, nutricote, top quality potting mix, and volcanic rock crushed, blue metal is another alternative to the crushed dust. Give it a good mix up and you’re ready to go. I prefer this coarse mix for seedlings it has good drainage and plenty of air. Get your soil corre t from day one and your growing troubles are over, well sort of so to speak. It works for me, you may want to tweak your recipe to suit your own growing conditions and climate.

So Cycads like your Cycas debaoensis hybrid will flush a group of leaves simultaneously. Older flushes may provide nutrients for the emerging flush. If this is a new flush showing damage then it could be something other than senescence. In your photo it appears all the leaves are tied up so it is difficult to assess which are newer and older leaves. Our palm moderator may move this post to the forum for other tropical plants where the posts on Cycads are included.

If you want a definitive list - this is what works and look good. Zone 9A Portland. Surviving and looking like crap don't count: Trachycarpus fortunei, wagnerianus, princeps, nainital, nova, takil Chamaerops humilis Jubaea chilensis Butia odorata BxJ and JxB Chamaedorea radicalis Rhapidophyllum hystrix Sabal minor, Louisiana, Birmingham, rosei, brazoriensis Others I had Livistona nitida for 5 years in a protected spot and it never took damage so for me this is a maybe Sabal uresana "highlands form". Very slow but I had it for 5 or 6 years in ground. One year it got nuked and I thought it died, but it came back bigger Sabal palmetto - I only had mine for 2 years so I never got to fully test it Trachycarpus fortunei hybrids - unavailable to me at the time but I know most crosses would survive

The flower reminds of Epidendrum falcatum or parkinsonianum but not the leaves. What a pleasant surprise. This bloom is a pleasant gift coming out of the boot of a Pritchardia. I cut the start off a larger plant which has been in my gardens for well over 15 years but the parent isn't blooming right now. This cutting has been bouncing around the garden with this boot being it's latest host. Parent plant shown below too.

Since it is the dead of winter in the Northern Hemisphere, I wasn't surprised that the first new flush to begin in my garden for the New Year is on the Encephalartos laurentianus. Unfortunately, it will likely get beat up in rain and wind, emerging at this time of year. At least the days are getting a little longer with each passing day, so increasing sunlight for it.

Caught my eye that albeit 1/3 the size as when originally obtained, my Joey appears to have adjusted to frequent very dry periods. Perhaps it will still eventually bump into the adjacent K elegans.

i wrapped it up, its fine now.

So the senescence I was referring to is of that particular leaf and what you are seeing on the leaflets. It is not in reference to the plant being old and approaching dying. I can't speak to how old Cycas debaoensis hybrids may live, but at 2 to 4 years old, yours are merely juvenile plants. Many Cycads if not most will probably long outlive the average or even long lived human. Some Cycads may hold multiple flushes, while others may only hold one at a time and potentially lose all their leaves before they flush again (Encephalartos laevefolius is an example in my climate and garden of sometimes having a complete defoliation before flushing again). One of my Cycas debaoensis hybrids typically holds a couple of flushes, but that may change if it cones, and puts out most of its energy in producing a cone. The one photographed above, typically will see the previous flush start to shoe signs of senescence shortly after the new flush has emerged. Depending on weather and winter temps you are seeing it could accelerate the dying off of older leaves as well. So my suggestion is to assess if this is the most recent flush to emerge that is showing the damaged leaflets, or if it is an older flush or both. Harry, the appearance of senescene on leaflets of Cycads can be different with different species. So even with Cycas as a genus, you have species like the common revoluta with thicker leaflets and others with thinner leaflets like Cycas debaoensis and its hybrids, Cycas micholitzii, Cycas bifida, and even Cycas thouarsii, which will all may show some spotting as the leaflets enter and progress through senescence. Just for comparison, look at the signs of senescence on the leaflets of the Cycad in the photo I have attached. It is an Encephalartos natalensis which is in the gardens of Pena Palace in Sintra, Portugal. It is pretty easy to identify that the lower leaves are fom older flushes in the photo, while the newer leaves all look perfectly healthy. This plant also speaks to how long Cycads can live, and my point above that I was not alluding to the Cycas debaoensis hybrid going into senescence, only that some of the leaves were going into senescence. I'll guess that at this size the plant is at least 80 to 100 years old, and probably closer to 120 years old, but I just don't know how fast they grow in Sintra. Perhaps one of our members/posters from Portugal may know a little more about the plants in this beautiful garden.

@gyuseppe I don’t believe I’ve ever seen one until now . Thank you for sharing . Harry

There a lot of pinanga species out there, a few are a bit delicate but for most varieties they are quite tough. It’s the Calpytrocalyx varieties that are tricky with few and far in between that are cold tolerant.

I suspect P kontumensis will be hardy for you. Vietnamese species, especially those from Central or North from some altitude typically have good hardiness. Honestly I reckon even further south like Sydney or Wollongong they’d thrive.

A nice batch of kerriodoxas looking good!

Yes, he had one sprout after it fell from the parent.

@Merlyn + @PalmBossTampa I stopped at WaWa and noticed what I thought were Silver Buttonwood (Conocarpus erectus var sericeus) : Google Streetview - November 2024 They were planted before the 2022 Christmas Freeze and are still there growing there. I took a closer photo and posted it to this thread: Conocarpus erectus var sericeus Take a look and let me know if you think they are something else.

You southern growers, if you’re not freezing your palms your cooking them! Such a hard environment at times and the difficulty’s in growing exotics out of there preferred zones. It’s one thing growing in a subtropical climate, but it’s another story in temperate climates with tropicals, I admire the resilience of southern growers!

I appreciate the intel. I have a bunch of baby Trachy fortunei that I started from seeds I collected in Anacortes from a trio of palms that sailed through a brutal 24 hours of 20 knot winds hammering them relentlessly at 9 F / 10 F, the 2023-2024 freeze. They came through looking completely unscathed. I bought some Butia x Jubaea seeds but I didn't have any germination. I stuck some Jubaea seeds in the ground rather than wait for ... ever, fussing indoors. No sign of germination from those yet ... I need to either up my seed game or just buckle down and purchase started palms if/when available!

Even in the heat of winter I've got some germinated indoors on a heat mat. One of the Carpoxylon macrospermum in this baggie just shot right through the plastic! 😆

Winter will take the wind out the sails in the garden until then bring on summer. We missed those crazy storms but had the wind it was a terrible few days. Iam used to heat but I fear one day i would want to leave the heat behind and run to Port Macquarie that big retirement village on the coast. Glad your building a bird cage (make it snake proof those carpet snakes) iam sure the birds will enjoy there new home. I cut out a huge clump of black bamboo the other day, oh it never spreads out runners they said yer right 30 years later it wants to take over my garden.Renovation of the garden is fun and you sound like your having fun scratches and all. You should write a book on gardening does and donts. Iam sure we all could provide plenty of material for that book, a true gardener never stops renovating their garden. And whatever happened to a young bloke earning a few bucks on the weekend mowing lawns, oh that’s right there all on their computer games and phones. I dare to say in my day a job was job and a fair days work for a fair days pay was the order of the day, hard work never killed anyone. My first job was 5 days a week for 40 hours and a pay of $20 bucks a day after tax, $95 bucks was mine and straight out of school I was millionaire on that pay! Richard

I was lucky enough to snag a couple of these and working on having the ability to offer these in our Etsy shop.. until then, I have always wanted to get my hands on these. It's been a multi-year process and finally happened! I'm going to grow these out, try them both here in DFW and at my ranch in ETX as well. Really excited to see what happens. Sabal antillensis Sabal lougheediana

Uh I haven't even had these things 3 months yet. Just a 19" tall boat oar leaf on a 4 foot (from the soil) Blue Java banana pup.

3 more of my mangos have sprouted. For real don't know where I'm gonna put all of them. Building another table and buying more lights feels inevitable.

Look at how hairy this guy's arm is. Anyway I think I'm gonna have to end up putting some of these bananas on the floor pretty soon. I think they're pretty happy in here.

My neighbor has a couple of these that he left in big tree pots for way too long. He’s in the San Diego area, and it appears they’re both nearly head high. But he’d like to see them go to a good home.

First flower on my calyptrocalyx. Some of my palm are becoming adults 🥲

Any updates on the palm?

@Phoenikakias My favorite spot is the south facing deck where we have daytime lounging and night time fire pit . The house and deck are 650 feet above sea level. Harry

My yard in my previous house was also covered by tall pine trees and despite the lack of sun and the yard facing north, they made wonders. I left all my sensitive plants outside with no protection and they all survived fine.

Thank you! It’s a papaya, and that picture was taken the last day of its life lol. I’ll post a pic of what everything looks like now. Papaya, hummingbird tree, and plumerias all very dead from the freeze. Canary island date palm lost all its leaves but is sending up multiple new leaves and should be fine. The papayas and hummingbirds die every year, but new ones planted in the spring grow into good size trees in 1 season.