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Tucked the atrovirens away for winter, see how she goes, we will see how cool tolerant they are. And the old kangaroo hopping around the garden!

It IS Coccothrinax scoparia. I visited this palm in habitat in 2006 and revisited in 2020. aztropic Mesa, Arizona

Also known as Sabal causiarum, this palm has a monstrous trunk, that can eclipse a Royal. It is extremely cold hardy and I do not understand why it is not grown in numerous locations.

Here are some in Southern California! The small one is growing in the Sonoran Desert in El Centro, CA - survived two years so far!

Bismarkia

That's really amazing and shows that she's more resilient and adaptable than we might think based on logic. We are so happy for you, Hugo 🤗

We embark on a palm buying junket tomorrow to San Diego county. One member has requested Cocothrinax scoparia, However, this species epithet is not listed in Henderson's "Palms of the Americas". It is listed on Palmpedia, and the same situation for C. montana. ( I purchased seeds of C. montana from Meg in Florida.) In the past I would search for "Kew Monocot checklist", however today I was not able to access that resource. So,...what name is used for the palm in the pine forest at 4000 feet elevation on the island of Hispaniola ? Please advise, thanks

Yes, those are Pseudophoenix vinifera. Pseudophoenix ekmanii is more carrot shaped; very thin proportionally at the base, and thick at the top when mature - then reverting to a very thin crown shaft area. Fairchild planted out about 25 ekmanii years ago at 3 gallon size and may only have 4 or 5 survivors at this point. They just do not seem to do well anywhere outside of habitat. Here's the ones left at Fairchild with a pic of a habitat specimen next to me to compare. aztropic Mesa, Arizona

Awesome! I hope you have a real hermaphrodite there! Re: viability of seeds Most plants that are dioecious adopt the strategy, despite its downsides, to maximize outcrossing and genetic diversity in offspring... AND because of this, they don't have other mechanisms to prevent self-pollination. I do not know for real about this specific species, but I would reckon any self-pollinated seeds would be viable based on other species.

Scott, thanks very much ! Next question, where I purchase one ? Thanks

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A nice new planting area with a nice pacsoa Pinanga sarawakensis!

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Agree with the above that it’s beyond help. All the ones I see around me are dead as well.

Great news ! Caryota Mitis are my favorite of all the common fishtail palms . When one trunk flowers , simply remove that stem and more continue growing . I have a few clumps around the house . I cut the flowering stems (trunks) out about once a year. Some of them get pretty tall. Harry ‘This one had a couple large stems removed last year .

This time knocking of all of my weeping form dypsis onilihanses seeds the mongrels! Some look good to go so I will give them a shot and share the rest with those two climate palm growers south of the border @tim_brissy_13 and his accomplice in the realms of somewhere near a island in Antarctica they call Tasmania can have a few seeds! Good luck guys!! That is in the winter coming up!

I can spot about 4 of them by the looks of it, but way to go, pot them up when it gets a bit warmer. You will soon get a new leaf, by the time you have to pot them up. Happy gardening it’s a fun hobby Harry. Richard

I have many lanonia dasyantha in my garden, there tough little palms just add water, they are a top palm to work with for landscaping!

Here’s a nice one for you, shade grown 26 years old, not flowering as of yet, a little tolerant of dry conditions, and taking temperatures around 2 degrees Celsius. They will drink as much water you give them, good drainage is the key to success for this palm!

Lanonia dasyantha really is amazing. Wins the prize for biggest difference between how tropical it looks and how hardy it is. Just doesn’t look like it should grow in cool climates.

I will be growing them as soon as there big enough to plant them out. Just got these two at the recent pacsoa show in Brisbane.

Sorry to high jack the thread but I needed Aztropic to confirm that this palm is a C vinifera and not a C ekmanii

Actually, these are very rarely available for whatever reason.🤷‍♂️ I grew a couple from seed from the 2006 trip that I sold off as 5 gallon plants. In 2020,I collected a handful of seed, but only got 5 plants up to 1 gallon size, and already sold 4 of them at that size and put the last one into a 5 gallon pot for myself.🤷‍♂️ The only source currently that I know of would be Caribbean Palms nursery in Florida; but he definitely doesn't ship. Good luck! 🍀 aztropic Mesa, Arizona

80F at 7:08PM after a mainly sunny Sunday afternoon in the low 90s.. One more day in the low 90s before... You see it, It's coming.. Get ready ..to roast.. ...We'll see if St Pat's Day escapes the century mark.

You can get away with zone ten plants only south of SR52 and west of little Rd in denser developments. Past that it's a solid zone 9 for long term stuff, especially in the open. Low spots are disasters in radiational freezes, which are more frequent than anywhere else in the area and see thick frost. Once you go northeast of 52 and Little the area is more 9a, but missing a lot of 9a chill hours (still some though) with temps of 19 happening every few years (lowest spots are far worse). Frost and hard freezes are a certainty in the area of north Pasco away from any wetlands or moisture, the Sandy soil is very dry, depleted of nutrients, and heats rapidly afterwards. It's a challenge to grow much and keep it happy, but legumes and drought/frost/cold tolerant palms do well if they like humidity. If you move to hernando pick a spot high on a hill and closer to the Aripeka area (or on water of course) and you can do more under canopy. From 52 to Chrystal River near the coast is a more reliable 9b with few 9a or 10a winters. Inland spring Hill and shady hills would be good for lower chill panhandle stuff. If you really want warmer and can go a bit further south, aim for the elfers area just east of 19 on SR54. Adonidias there were burned but alive this winter, and archontophoenix are easy. My winter lows near Aripeka Sandhills preserve were: 2022-2023: Christmas freeze 2 nights 27-30, January 16 31.8 with a 32.2 the day before. 2023-24: 32.2 advective, rest 10b (El nino) 2024-25: 33 in early December and frost, 26 or 28 January 25 after multiple days at 33 2025-26: 12 freezes (first 2 in mid November), 2 at 29 advective, many 30 to 32 radiational, and the big one was a radiational 24.6 after the second advective 29 (it was 22 inland at st Leo the same night with wind, so there is some water influence just not nearly as much as a bit south) Hopefully that info helps, just a stone throw away from me (almost literally, I'm in an odd spot) inland hitting 19 to 22 radiational is a regular occurrence and there are few queens or pygmy dates, and I've seen one small Bismarck. That area people don't garden at all or use greenhouses for things. I'm using one for most of my plantings and am transitioning to mostly desert plants in the front yard thats open, they do better (and natives). A drive down 19 a short distance and most years mangos and similar are fine, this year and 2018 fried the nothernmost openly planted one. If I had known all this detail before I likely would have pushed for a smaller lot in southwest Pasco to avoid the major dips, but I like my space here too.

aztropic Mesa, Arizona

I got seed from this batch too. I contacted RPS to ask about the origin as I’ve always been on the hunt for the true species. I also asked about the 2018 batch. Their response was that previously their source from early 2000s through to 2018 was not experienced with ID and they’ve re traced the origin and confirmed these palms are C vogelianum. I still find it a bit hard to believe considering they are visible unique species but their range does overlap and C parvifrons in particular can be a bit variable. The recent batch (and I’m assuming the new batch available now on RPS) is supposedly confirmed to be true C parvifrons. They sent me this photo of a mother plant which looks to me to be the real deal and also a form with very well developed crownshaft which is desirable. After a bit over 5 months my first seed germinated. Nearly 6 months since sowing now and I’m up to 5 out of about 50 seeds. I’m hoping for and expecting more as the seed all still looks good.

This is what royals in the area look like. All seem to be pushing green. I've actually see a couple of coconuts that looked like they are recovering too.

Aquí hay uno en el jardín de la universidad de Málaga ,España

Beautiful. Come on Mazat, these palm trees will only enhance their beauty. Congratulations. I hope to protect mine now from the Southern Hemisphere winter.

There's a possibility I might move to the Spring Hill area. I would like to see anyone's input on the best palms one can grow here, or maybe someone that lives there/close by. I see according to the new USDA hardiness zone map it's 9b, with a 9a patch close to the eastern side. In 2010 and this most recent freeze there were 9a temps for sure. Looking around on Google streetview in Spring Hill, there isn't much variety in the landscape with the most "daring" palms looking to be queens and Phoenix roebelenni. For non palms, I noticed a huge Enterolobium cyclocarpum (ear tree) in one backyard and a few Jacarandas that look to have resprouted into multiple trunks (probably after the 2010 freeze). I also noticed a couple Yellow Poinciana (Peltophorum dubium?) that were large with one showing some twig dieback in April 2011 (after the 2010 freezes). Interestingly, Spring Hill is a little lower latitude than Orlando and yet looks to get colder (probably due to less urban heat effect). I haven't looked at all the weather station data yet, but from the looks of the vegetation damage, it probably got to the low 20's (deg F) in 2010. With this most recent freeze Feb 2026, I recall from the temperature screenshots mid 20's with maybe some low 20 readings in a few spots. Based on this, I think I have a good idea of what one might be able to grow: however, I'd like to open this up to discussion and it might be fun to theorize what the most exotic palms one could grow here or even with some damage from time to time during a colder winter. If it's ok, might discuss a few non-palms here and there but can keep it more focused on palms since it's in this forum topic. Here's a few streetview screenshots showing the kind of damage seen in spring of 2011 after the 2010 freezes. These following 2 photos were more on the eastern side of Spring Hill. Some queens on the Western side close to US 19 seemed to have almost minimal damage. From most of the later streetview images in the years after, I didn't notice any queens that didn't recover after this damage from the 2010 freezes. Here's a large Yellow Poinciana showing twig dieback in spring of 2011. And here it is in 2024

Good luck with that. Maybe a mild winter for its first year out 🤞. The Roo is fun to see! We have rabbits , road runners , and other fun animals to entertain us . Harry

Post please peactures of Dictyosperma album specimens cultivated outdoor in CA. No matter degree of success or failure. Also some description of experience (positive, negative, mixed) would be very desirable.

A nice outdoor chamaedorea elegans, being used as screen plant for the gas cylinder! And a socratea rostrata still growing well!

Quick, late evening update: A couple Threads threads offering up additional perspective on this event from Daniel Swain over at Weather West.. *** For those interested, he will be live ( on Youtube ) to discuss it all / offer any updates at 1pm AZ / Pacific. Time.

Update 03.15.26 Older fronds show sun acclimation stress, but not surprised since this palm was basically living in filtered light before. I'm ok with it looking a bit ugly for now. Newest frond appears healthy. Growth does seem to be faster in the sun, as indicated by the distance between the two sharpie marks.

Thank you all for your input. And @kinzyjr thank you for the weather data. Yes @flplantguy I noticed in the streetview images I can see how many plants look sad/struggle in that sandhill environment (actually very similar to my current location in Okaloosa county, one of the reasons being I see sand pine (Pinus clausa) there which the other population exists in my area indicating infertile dry sands). Thankfully over the years I've observed and trialed what trees and plants can tolerate it so I'd be pretty good at selecting what would grow well. Despite the "icebox of the peninsula" reputation, it's definitely still a leg-up warmer than my current location in the Panhandle and would be exciting for me. As cold as it can get, the fact that queens survive in Spring Hill somewhat long term (with occasional damage) is a great improvement as that is not possible here. My yard would probably be a mix of more cold hardy stuff (years of researching exotic/tropical looking cold hardy plant material has helped) and towards the more tropical side (with expected cold damage occasionally but things that will still survive in some fashion). I'm weird in that I love northern plants at the same time so in one section of my yard I might plant something like a Quercus falcata, Quercus buckleyi, or Cedrus atlantica.

after the freezes, we saw many cold nights and 21 ° and 22 ° F lows---palm doesnt look bothered at all

It's one of those thick trunk Chamaedoreas

My Archontophoenix cunnigamiana suffered last winter and their leaves dried up like husks. Afterwards, new leaf buds emerged and they recovered.

Encephalartos altensteinii single frond flush

Hmmm, I would fully expect a pure Butia to have thorns on the petioles at that size. The fact that it's thornless is a large indicator it is hybrid.

I like it!!!

@ABQPalms I would love to get some of your Filifera seedlings. You are also welcome to some of my Sabal minor seeds or seedlings.

Speaking of Butia, here’s a B. yatay 4 years from an average 15g. Note the 5g bucket for scale. This thing is in the most atrocious rocky soil ever, and doesn’t seem to blink.

I started with 96 seed of which maybe 70 sprouted. Everything in pots died over an 18 month period. I put a eleven in the ground at the two leaf stage and now have seven plants which have done two winters. The ones that died were in extreme situations for evaluation purposes so really they are quite reliable so far at this early stage. I really wish I had put some in the ground earlier and will try direct sowing next time. None of mine are particularly pampered and grow on unamended clay banks but never see frost. They seem to like some sun and I will try full sun on a few next time just to see what happens. Unfortunately I haven't enjoyed the same growth rate as Pete but that is to be expected given my climate. If you are frost free they are worth a shot but can't vouch for what low humidity might do to them.