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Local Sabal uresana. Some or all of mine came from these trees.

Another group in Houston.

Close but no cigar, it’s light bleaching. I have it on my Johannesteijsmannia. When I first seen it I was not thinking variegated, and if it was variegated well the bank account would be a lot larger having variegated joeys that is for sure!

A big pair on this one. The boys get some additional extension when they unscrew like this.

Mine puts on a bit of a show too.

Why not a palm seed thread, we all love our palm seeds, and with so many of us harvesting our seeds from our gardens, or purchasing them. It’s a great way to get seed identification for those who may have there doubts about did I get the real deal. Chamaedorea tenella Mother plant And the rats had been stealing them so harvest time!

A nice Chambeyronia and the Geonoma atrovirens seems to ok in cold wet conditions (for now) still not freezing conditions to kill palms yet, but they will come sooner than later those 2 degrees celcius mornings.

A couple more floating around the garden. The first picture you now have @Jonathan so we will see if that refrigerator you live in can grow this beauty of a brom!

Bit of an unusual trait for a flower to have fasciation. Somewhat of a different flower trait, not uncommon, but a bit rare. Definitely makes for an interesting bit of a conversation piece.

Cheese grommet! You gotta check out Shaun the sheep show, just as good 😂 Richard

A spathe standing at attention on a Burretiokentia hapala.

Two views of one of my Phoenicophoriums. Such a pretty species.

Just so everyone can play along Richard: This is now Arenga oblongifolia. Previously Wallichia oblongifolia. Before that Wallichia densiflora. I think you e mashed up the previous name a bit with the name before that 🙂 Great palm by the way. I love anything weirdly unique.

When I first moved to Florida, I planted a Bismarckia in mid2010 and a sabal uresana in summer 2011. Uresanas are often mentioned as alternatives to bismarckia in 9a. These palms have stood next to each other over the years making for an easy growth comparison. Bismarckias are generally regarded as fast growers and uresanas are said to be slow. First, Bismarckia several months after planting a 5 gallon bought at a big box store. Everything but the spear had heavy mold spots so I kind of treated it as a rescue. It seems to have that purplish hue after winter that is often associalted with a whiter leaf. It adapted fast to sun after being tortured inside the box store with palms stacked in a pile around it. It put 5-6 new leaves out the first year. late july 2010 bismarckia then about a year later I planted a sabal uresana "icy blue" I bought from tejas tropicals in texas. It was a strap leafer and I put it in a pot. About 6 months later it was ready to go into the ground as the pot was root bound. A little over 2 years later in sept 2013 both had grown well. IN this pic the uresana looks a bit bigger than it was (relatively) since it was closer to the observer. It had turned darker with less "icy blue" color but was clearly not just a green sabal. The uresana was about 6' overall and the Bismarckia was closer to 10' in this pic At this point the bismarckia was trunking and growth was accelerating and here is the pic from june 2015. The uresana not trunking was putting more leaves for a bigger crown About 4 years later the uresana had lengthened it leaves and had gone into trunking mode. It went skyward chasing the bismarckia but still 6-7 feet over all behind the biz in height Last week I took another pic and noticed about a 10' gap even though the uresana had sped up and grown to about 25' tall. compared with 35' for the bismarckia I thought it was interesting that the growth burst of each happened at trunking, as we are often told by the literature. Yes even sabal uresana grows well after trunking. I also though it is interesting to note that Sabal Uresana has a wider crown, that was a surprise. I had always thought Bismarckia would be wider as it throws more shade but its a couple fee less in width of the crown. The Uresana crown is more open though, and it took a lot less damage than the Bismarckia in hurricane Milton(oct2024). Part of the lesser damage suffered by uresana could be due to less wind damage as there are higher wind velocities at height, but also part might be the Uresana having an open crown with smaller leaves that have less wind drag. I do think Uresanas will have more blue than mine in a drier hot climate. Bismarckias are very versatile, they don't need much fertilizer and mostly they are self shedding. Just keep them happy and the weevils wont come to dinner(I had a sick one attacked by weevils and killed). I treated the Uresana same as Bismarckia, limited fertilizer compared with my other palms The Uresana has persistent leaf bases which are still strongly attached near the ground. Since I do the trimming, I am happy that Uresana is a slower grower, as the Bismarckia is now too tall for me to trim from the ground. And the Bismarckia(female) is a mess, dropping 150-200 lbs of seed a year. I just got done raking up half a trash can full of Bismarckia fruits, and there is at least that much still hanging on the tree. Uresana has not fruited yet at 15 yrs. Sabals are notorious for liking heat to grow fast and they both had plenty of Florida heat. For those thinking about Sabal Uresana, its not Bismarckia fast but its more of a medium grower for me after trunking.

I once had a Howea seed germinate with a variegated frond ( light colored streaks running long ways to the leaf vs across ) . I was very excited until the next little frond turned out dark green🫤. Harry

Fantastic! (Except for the rats) . I just can’t throw away seeds , unless they are too prolific . I will scatter them about the yard instead. Lately I have been getting into a bit of sowing in containers or baggie method . I now have a few containers around the house with tags but no plants . ( thank you @happypalms 😄) . My neighbor saw me on the ladder plucking seeds from a tall C. Radicalis and asked if they were edible. I told him that I was harvesting them to grow more palms. I don’t know about the edible part. Before seeing your posts about seeds and all the palms you have grown from seeds , I really didn’t pay much attention , or put a lot of time into sowing seeds. Now I am getting into it. Most of my yard is the hill so I can’t install or build a greenhouse . I am looking at different “lean to” options that might work . My work bench that is home to a small bench vise and a drill press is getting cluttered with containers of germinating seeds. For home projects I have to move the containers to get any work done. 🤔Harry

Some are, some have died. It was a very odd freeze. Here are updates; PALMS Acoelorrhaphe wrightii (4’)- no damage Aiphanes horrida x minima (6’) -100% burn, already had about 25% burn from earlier cold, it always showed damage below about 35F every year but always quickly recovered, DEAD Archontophoenix cunninghamiana (20’) -major burn, new leaf opening, it is opening 4th new leaf, all are floppy, this palm was still recovering from hurricane damage and a boron deficiency Archontophoenix purpurea (7’)- 100% burn, new growth emerging, DEAD Areca triandra (3’) -100% burn, regrowing Arenga engleri (7’)- light burn on a few leaves Arenga hookeriana (5’)- all tall stems 100% burned/dead, shorter suckers green Beccariophoenix alfredii (15’, 10’)- both have severe burn but green in center Borassodendron machodonis (3’)- COVERED, no damage Brassiophoenix drymophoeoides (5’)- 100% burn, DEAD Carpentaria acuminata x Adonidia merrillii (25’)- 100% burn DEAD Caryota mitis ‘Variegata’ (3’)- severe burn, amin stem died, suckers emerging Chamaedorea elegans (2’)-100% burn DEAD Chamaedorea ernestii-augustii (3’)- 100% burn DEAD Chamaedorea metallica (2’)- 100% burn DEAD Chamaedorea microspadix (6’)- no damage initially, very delayed damage, very light burn probably from the winds Chambeyronia macrocarpa (3’)- all leaves burned except newest, regrowing Chelyocarpus chuco (4’)- COVERED no damage Chrysalidocarpus leptocheilos (3’)- 100% burn, DEAD Chrysalidocarpus lutescens ‘Nana’ (3’)- COVERED but partially blew off, 50% burn, several stems died back Chrysalidocarpus madagascariensis (Mahajanga form) (6’)- 100% burn, main stem dead suckers emerging Chrysalidocarous onilahensis (3’)- light burn Chrysalidocarpus pembanus (15’)- 100% burn on the 2 tall trunks, suckers have some green leaves, 2 tall trunks dead Chrysalidocarpus psammophilus (3’)- 100% burn, DEAD Chuniophoenix hainanensis (3’)- no damage Clinostigma savoryanum (4’)- 2 newest leaves have no damage, others burned Coccothrinax barbadensis (3’)- light burn Coccothrinax crinita (3’) – severe burn, regrowing Coccothrinax spissa (3’)- severe burn, trunk cut, regrowing Cocos nucifera ‘Green Malayan’ (10’, 3’ trunk)- almost 100% burn but a few green leaflets and petioles still green, already pushing new growth, it already had about 20% burn from frost a couple weeks prior, regrowing, it has pushed out 4 new leaves, all damaged or distorted but new spear is looking better Copernicia alba (6’)- no damage Cryosophila stauracantha (4’)- 100% burn DEAD Cyrtostachys elegans x renda (3’)- COVERED no damage Dictyosperma album (furfuraceum) (3’)- 100% burn, regrowing Euterpe edulis (10’, 5’)- both have 100% burn, both dead Gaussia attenuata (7’)- 100% burn, new spear opening, DEAD Gaussia maya (5’)- 100% burn, regrowing Heterospathe negrosensis (4’)- light burn Howea belmoreana (3’)- severe burn DEAD Howea forsteriana (7’)- severe burn DEAD Hyophorbe verschaffeltii (6’)- 100% burn, new leaf opening Lanonia dasyantha (2’, 3’)- no damage on either Leucothrinax morrissii (5’)- no damage initially, new growth emerged damaged but regrowing Licuala kunstleri (2’)- light damage Licuala peltata (3’)- light burn Licuala ramsayi (6’)- slight damage on 1 leaf, very delayed reaction, first new leaf opened and collapsed but others fine Livistona decora (10’)- no damage, very light and delayed burn Livistona muelleri (4’)- moderate burn Livistona saribus (15’)- no damage Normanbya normanbyi (8’)- 100% burn DEAD Phoenix acaulis (3’)- no damage Phoenix loureiroi (Kashmir) (8’)- no damage Pinanga coronata (4’)- 100% burn 2 main stems died, suckers regrowing Pinanga gracilis (3’)- 2 stems, 1 no damage, other 100% burn Pritchardia hillebrandii (3’)- moderate burn, still lots of green, center spear pulled, cut and treated, new growth pushing out Pseudophoenix sargentii (4’)- severe burn, regrowing Ptychococcus lepidotus (5’)- 100% burn DEAD Ptychococcus paradoxus (6’)- 100% burn DEAD Ptychosperma elegans (10’)- 100% burn DEAD Ptychosperma propinquum (macarthurii) (12’)- main stem 100% burn, suckers mostly brown but some green, main stems dead suckers emerging Ravenea glauca (3’)- light burn Ravenea hildebrandtii (5’)- 100% burn DEAD Ravenea rivularis (6’)- 100% burn, new growth emerging Reinhardtia latisecta (2’)- no damage Rhapis excelsa ‘Zuiko Nishiki’ (5’)- no damage, delayed damage, slight spotting on some leaves Rhapis humilis (8’)- no damage Sabal etonia x palmetto (2’)- no damage Sabal mauritiiformis (5’)- very minor burn Sabal miamiensis x maritima (6’)- no damage Sabal palmetto (10’)- no damage Sabal palmetto (Miami Rockridge form) (2’)- no damage Sabinaria magnifica (3’)- COVERED, cover partially blew off, light burn on a couple leaves, very delayed light damage Schippia concolor (3’)- moderate burn Serenoa repens, silver (3’)- no damage Syagrus romanzoffiana (20’)- light burn Syagrus sancona (7’)- severe burn, trunk cut new leaf opening Syagrus weddelliana (6’)- severe burn DEAD Veitchia arecina (3’)- moderate burn DEAD Wodhyethia bifurcata (4’)- 100% burn DEAD CYCADS Bowenia spectabilis- no damage Ceratozamia hildae- no damage Cycas debaoenis- no damage Cycas thouarsii- 100% burn Encephalartos ferox- no damage Stangeria eriopus- light burn Zamia furfuracea – no damage, in pot and taken in Zamia integrifolia (narrow leaflet form)- no damage Zamia integrifolia (Palatka Giant)- no damage Zamia integrifolia (wide leaflet form)- no damage Zamia nesmophila- moderate burn Zamia sp. “Spots”- severe burn PANDANS Freycinetia cumingiana (4’)- main stems dead, some green shorter stems/leaves Pandanus furcatus (15’)- 100% burn but green already pushing out removed all dead leaves, new growth pushing out, stem is now collapsing Pandanus letocartiorum (decumbens) (2’)- 100% burn dead Pandanus penangensis (monotheca) (5’)- 100% burn, new growth emerging in June Pandanus polycephalus (3’)- severe burn DEAD Pandanus pygmaeus ‘Variegatus’ (2’)- moderate burn Pandanus tectorius (spineless form) (3’)- 100% burn dead Pandanus tectorius, dwarf spineless variegated form)- 100% burn dead PALM-LIKE PLANTS Cyclanthus bipartitus (4’)- 100% burn, this is root hardy, foliage dies every year as it declines around 35F but rapidly regrows in spring, regrowing, vigorous new growth Dracaena arborea (4’)- killed to roots Ravenala madagascariensis (15’)- 100% burn, regrowing Ravenala menahirana (Honkondambo) (3’)- 100% burn, new leaf emerging, regrowing Sphaeropteris cooperi (Cyathea) (10’)- 100% burn, regrowing Strelitzia nicolai (10’)- 100% burn, main stem died back

Yeh, most broms I've tried seem to do well for me and I'm sure they would for you too Jonathan. For the most part all I've had is minor frost burn in winter from ones in more exposed positions, but they've always grown out of it. I've read somewhere that pups from a plant tend to do better than the parent, especially if it's coming from a warmer climate/greenhouse, and I think there's something to that. I believe it is an A recurvata cultivar, but I've no idea what it's called. I got it from a friend recently who gets much harder frosts than me and it does well there. The leaves were very bright red when I got it, then they turned green and the red flower came out, it was quite a transition!

If it was me I would move back to Hawaii and live in palm paradise! Iam impressed @tim_brissy_13 And that propagation medium looks familiar 👍you got some bargaining material there @happypalms 🤣

Ceroxylon parvifrons popping up from rps seeds another great batch of seeds!

Brad, it looks like “Coontie” or Zamia integrifolia to me. Could be wrong tho. -dale

They are show worthy, and not a small palm by no means.

Seeds Gromet!! Harry

We have lift off, when I germinated 600 Chams the first one to germinate got labeled number one, i thought it’s gotta be the strongest out of 600 seeds, so I decided to keep that one special palm. It’s now planted in the ground. I know the feeling you have for those special seedlings. Sometimes it’s best to just forget about them and it’s a nice surprise! Richard

A few germination successes for some rare species caught my eye: Syagrus harleyi Syagrus campestris Syagrus cataphracta Pritchardia waialealeana

Looking great Scott. Nice to see all these growing happily outside in a climate almost identical to mine. What's the red flowered one in the third pic...almost looks like a form of Aechmea recurvata??

I have a causiarum and the width of the crown is very similar to the uresana. The uresana has longer petioles and smaller leaves. I am surprised how much less shade it throws than causiarum which is also much less than bismarckia. The view up on my uresana appears most sparse of the three but it is wide, ~ 25' I think. biz crown Uresana crown lighter shade. Being closer to the uresana my lens cant get any wider(17-55mm cannon EFS crop frame). The uresana also has a thick trunk with leaf based on, similar to my Biz with a smooth trunk. The pavers are 9" on one side 11" on the other. I see 3 of them on the 11" side is about the thickness of the trunk base.

Bismarckia is about a foot taller than the uresana but does have a small trunk.

@Dopeyfox the plant in the photo is a Cycad, most likely Cycas Thouarsii. It's been commonly called the "Queen Sago" in FL. There were a whole bunch imported to the area back in the 80s and 90s. It's a close relative to the common "Sago Palm," aka Cycas Revoluta. I don't remember noticing a spicy pepper smell around them, but sometimes the cones have a smell to them.

So this has seemed to persist for multiple years now. Do you (palmtalk experts) think this is a permanent shift?

@Chester B Thanks for the update. Your palms look like they are growing well. Since I have Butia x Jubaea now myself, I like seeing more of what mine will like as I am taking my time to decide exactly where I want to put it in the ground. Can you remind me about what size yours was when you planted it out? I assume it went in the ground between two and two and a half years ago when you moved to Houston, correct?

Just an update of a comment two years ago, above. I always had problems with orange leaves. Some people said it was normal for the species and others told me it was due to insufficient fertilizer. Recently I have been trying to fertilize monthly using slow release 22-7-14 with micronutrients. Plus generous doses of pee. Don't scrimp on the urine! I have not bought fertilizer since the Iran war started, so I have no idea what it costs now, but pee is always a bargain. I still have some yellow-orange streaks in the older fronds, but overall I think it looks much better. The reflection from the perpetually wet glossy fronds makes it hard to see the underlying green. After a terribly dry 2025, I'm up to 94" (2.4m) of rain so far in 2026. If you are wondering why these don't look as good growing on the mainland, abundant rain is probably a contributing factor. The new plantings nearby are growing like gangbusters. For scale the larger one on the left has about 9 ft (3m) of trunk. After 5+ years of blooming, still no hint of fruit. A recently added Pigafetta with black bristles is lurking in the rear. As hard as it is to believe, FB produced the seedlings that grew into the 4 ft tall baby on the right starting with seeds collected in 2023 at the famous Carlsmith garden. With the proliferation of private palm gardens since around 1990, Hawaii is able to produce seeds for hundreds of rare species. Even for species that struggle to set seeds like Phoenicophorium, there is almost always somebody who has a tree with fruit. Judging with how quickly tropical forests around the world are being cleared, this might be just in the nick of time.

Looks like some decent caudex swelling which equals great root expansion!

How long in the ground and from what size chester? I would also comment that bismarckias like deep roots, water for the bizzie, not for the shallow rooted plants. A plant water cycle for mine would cause them to suffer. I had (2) one eaten by weevils had a low spot with neighbors irrigation and mine nearby at staggered times(by necessity, HOA well pump alternates houses) and the soil was not great draining. I tried growing roses near one of mine in arizona, I had great roses but the Biz was not cold hardy being continually wet and kicked it one winter while 3 others no so situated with plants did ok and came back strong from the cold. I learned that you either prioritize the plants or the bizzie, cant do both. Some palms do great with water lovers nearby. My biz is separated from the water lovers. I saw a few mature ones 25-30' tall in miami that were in that rocky wet soil they have down there in some places and they had think trunks('a tad less than 18" base) and I could move the crowns with a push on the trunk, not root stabilized. My bizmarckia has a swollen base of 33" thick.

Triple 5 gallon metallica palms, $95, have about 5 -Joe 760-300-7339

A few of the palms this June. Sabal uresana, Sabal palmetto "Lisa" and Butia odorata to the right. Neighbors's CIDPs behind. Washingtonia robusta CIDP Butia yatay x Jubaea chilensis Phoenix sylvestris Bismarckia nobilis Trachycarpus latisectus

Original palm is not a pure Jubaea. Personally I don't think this is even a Butia x Jubaea. Looks an awful lot like Butia odorata var "Strictior" to me

Bismarkia

A couple of Ernie’s in the garden, one is 30 years old and the other is about 3 years old from @tim_brissy_13 growing quite well!

Actinorhytis calapparia. Tim

I’m sure they will be right at home! That R. Baueri will take off. It is about the size of mine and it is growing pretty fast here. Harry

A new V splendida leaf did…

Licuala mapu and licuala peltata sumowongii loving the rain.

Well it's that time of year again over here, when the palm bug ramps up into full swing, great to get back into the gardening but even better to get out with the boys and tour a few gardens.Today takes us to Chinderah palm nursery, home of Larry and narelle. The nursery is on approx 2.5 acres and has been closed for a few years now but as you will see alot of stuff is very mature.Thanks Daryl and Mike for having us along for the ride, I ended up being the official photographer with the trusty iphone, so hope you enjoy Mike and Andy will be our official props today for scale Calyptronoma occidentialis Veitchia vitiensis Satakentia Dictyosperma album var. conjugatum C Hookeri Kerriodoxa elegans Clinostigma sp Caryota zebrina

Thank you . Mine is still in juvenile stage , I’m hoping to get a few stems like yours , although it will be a while here . It seems to be moderately fast as it gets going . It has only been in the ground a little over a year . Harry

The hardest thing I’ve encountered growing here is the salt breeze. We get some hard west wind days that really wreck havoc on the garden.

Thanks Harry. The lanceolata is clumping although it only clumped at an early age. Here is a photo of the base.

Itaya amicorum, I really like this one but it probably needs to be in a more protected area. A big clump of Walichia siamensis Caryota zebrina. This one deserves more then one photo. C crinita with C leptocheilos

Cyphophoenix nucele Cyphophoenix elegans Actinokentia divaricata Cyphophoenix alba Basselinia favieri here is more dypsis leucomalla for good measure, G'day Daryl Dypsis carlsmithii Here is Daryl with a much bigger actinokentia divaricata then before acanthophoenix rubra Well that's it as far as what I snapped, hoped you enjoyed, once again big thanks to Larry and Narelle and Daryl and Mike.

Neoveitchia storckii Pinanga caesia Dypsis leucomalla, Larry and Mike in deep thought ... haha Satakentia liukiuensis Dypsis bejouf Burretiokentia koghiensis More dypsis leucomalla Dypsis onilahensis, Narelle and I think Andy Carpoxylon macrosperma