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I've not shared anything with you folks before, simply because I haven't had anything to offer. I was not born with a passion for palms. We (my wife and I) fell into this peculiar and fascinating world quite by chance. Like anything, the more you learn, the more interesting things become. That said, all we have to offer you is our experience managing a legacy garden. Irene & I bought Casa de Las Palmas on Hawaii Island in 2017. The garden was the tropical fantasy world of the late San Diego nurseryman Jerry Hunter. Mr. Hunter was successful. He’d started his company in the 1950's, and was the 33rd licensed Landscape Architect in California. He'd been involved with the design of San Diego Zoo, Wild Animal Park, and Balboa Botanical Gardens, among many others. He had the first tissue culture lab in Southern California. His parents had been the go-to people on the west coast for begonias. He was essentially American plant royalty. He figured out that if he grew his tropicals in Hawaii and shipped them to California, he'd be ahead of the competition. He built a nursery in Hilo and bought the land for Casa de Las Palmas. It would serve as his home away from home, and as a showroom for his wealthy clients. Construction of the garden began in 1981 on almost seven acres of upland pasture. The volcanic clay soil was not suitable for planting juvenile plants, so untold tons of cinder and rock were brought in, and the landscape shaped and molded into what we see today. Most of the planting was done into cinder mounds. For the design of Casa de Las Palmas he worked with the local landscape architect Brian Lievens, whom he would task with sourcing some of the rare plants from east Hawaii's growers. Brian was gracious enough to provide us with the original planting plans of the garden which are now laminated and framed on the lanai. These exquisite plans (like a cross between a complex wiring diagram and an artwork) were how we learned about the palms in the garden. We spent endless evenings cross referencing the botanic names with The Encyclopedia of Cultivated Palms. Being a nurseryman from San Diego, Mr. Hunter had a crew of extremely hard working and talented Mexican men build the garden for him. A swimming hole was hand-hewn under one of the waterfalls. A delicate stone foot bridge was created over the stream. We were told that the lava rock paths took three years to complete. And the scale of plantings were nothing short of colossal. The kind only a successful nurseryman like Mr. Hunter could even contemplate. We were lucky enough to apprentice under one of the original employees, Cristobal. Without his dedication and care we would never have got off the starting line, our ignorance would have been absolute, the garden would have fallen into chaos. I recall how early on we planted a dwarf papaya on a cinder mound next to a Metroxylon amicarum and Dypsis carlsmithii (now Chrysalidocarpus carlsmithii), much to Cristobal's unspoken, but obvious, distress. Shortly afterwards a large palm leaf fell and destroyed the papaya. We took this as a sign that the garden requires a certain amount of respect. Since then, staying true to the intentions of the garden has been something we work hard on. When we plant, we consider the design. Perhaps we plant a Alocasia zebrina underneath the Caryota zebrina to mimic its petioles. Perhaps the Pinanga distitcha should be planted near the Licuala mattanensis “Mapu” to mirror their mottled leaf forms. Constant working in the garden reveals new insights every day. Sometimes it's like garden archeology, discovering a long-overgrown path or a rare plant languishing under piles of fallen leaves. Sometimes it's a lesson in design - realizing that most of the plants in an area share undulating leaf forms or that the color scheme is quite deliberately rigid. Casa de Las Palmas has evolved from a carefully orchestrated young garden into a mature ecosystem. Plants have produced progeny and plants have died. The blueprint has gotten a little more fuzzy. Many of the palms are too big to groom now. Everything fights for light, air and nutrients. It has become naturalized. Pretty soon we realized that the nutrients the garden demands couldn't be met by chemical fertilizer. It was just too expensive. So, we looked into goats. We now have six gelded males rescued from the butcher's block and fenced on a neighboring paddock we own. They provide plenty of manure for the garden. Their poop doesn't smell much, is hard and breaks down slowly and can be flung from a shovel in showers through the dense plantings. The plants love it, but we do supplement weak or needy palms with a special palm fertilizer as needed. Legacy gardens are by their nature equal parts demanding and rewarding. They offer those of us new to gardening an incredible learning experience. We certainly don't have the kind of money, manpower or knowledge required to create something so remarkable from scratch. But like buying a beautiful, world-weary house, after a lot of work, you can enjoy something unique, grand and magical. Really for us it is the magical spell that Casa de las Palmas puts you under, one that removes us from the world and enchants us, that makes this legacy garden so very special. Lastly, I'll leave you with three things of note that we have learned: Map your garden. Don't make it too big. And don't go planting Clinostigma samoense down the driveway...or any heavy crownshaft palms for that matter! com.google.android.apps.docs.editors.kix.editors.clipboard?uuid=ecbeebc8-9124-4c8d-9ebd-e5cbdce7e26b

Say hello to my little friend, purchased from @Darold Petty just before Christmas. It was gorgeous today, I think all over California, so we did a little garden cleanup. This got me to thinking about where I intend to put this plant, probably in mid to late February. I have two spots, close together but quite different. Here’s the overall view. One location is where the Cycas is currently. It has never done well, I think due to scale, but is looking better lately. Still I would not hesitate to move or remove it. This location gets plenty of sun spring through fall, I’m concerned maybe too much. Eventually there will be more canopy but this will take years. It is very visible from our patio which is desirable. Darold recommends this location. The other option is a few feet away underneath the growing Sphaeropteris medullaris. Despite its own issues with sun, it will provide filtered shade for years and will gain height, allowing the Lepidorrhachis to become more visible. Honestly I am leaning towards this option but want to see what the group thinks. It’s possible that I get a bit more sun than Darold, and of course I don’t have anything like his mature canopy. Let me know what you think. Thanks.

Just want to share some pictures of aloes I have here in Cape Coral, FL. Yes. Many can grow well in a hot, humid, wet Summer climate with the proper drainage. There are a couple tree aloes pictures here flowering as well. Thraskii has the golden branched inflourescens, and vaombe is red flowering in a pot. Also have an Alooides hybrid sending up flowers. Others here include dorothea, vanbalenii in yellow, and cameronii in multiple color variants. All here are blooming now. Enjoy the pics. Sorry. Some pics doubled up. Not sure why.

I reckon either option would be ok in your climate, which is prettysimilar to mine...shade is definitely preferable when they're young, but that's a pretty robust looking specimen you've got. Beautifully grown @Darold Petty.

Not a tree palm, but Allagoptera arenaria is from beachfront habitat.

And so a legacy garden is born, it takes time and a lot of work, it can be done on a budget but the work load is a lot heavier for just one gardener. It takes many years of research and searching for the plants so desired for that tropical look, only a true gardener knows the feeling of losing a special plant in a storm or succumbing to Mother Natures compost heap! Hopefully this garden legacy keeps on living and iam sure it will, as we get older our palms look better. Hooefully one day I too will have a garden that can be left for future generations! Richard

I’ve always wondered if washingtonias can grow on the beach and specifically on the sand close to the water since clear trunked washis are probably the closest thing to a coconut tree beach in Greece's climate. I’ve seen a beach in the Canary Islands where they had planted washingtonias extremely close to the water and they seemed to thrive. I live right next to the beach and I would really love to experiment with planting these as close to the water as possible (probably not legal so let’s say in theory). Here is a picture of a beach in the Canary Islands

Got a couple of Chambeyronia growing next to each both flowering at the same time. It’s the first time the macrocarpa has flowered the hookeri has flowered twice but with no seeds set yet. It’s the first will be interesting to see if I get any seeds set this season I would be confident in a cross pollination if I do get seeds ( not really a fan of hybrids) either way it will e a long wait to find out if I have created a hybrid.

Apparently local semi-feral cats suffer from insomnia! Do you observe exact time of scene?

The Rhopalostyllis fruits are too hard to consume when the epicarp is fully red. At first they would consume only the epicarp and mesocarp. However, they have now learned to consume the entire seed while it is immature, and still somewhat soft. Hedyscepe seed is not bothered until the similar point of development, when the seed starts to color from green to red. The rats consume the entire seed. Seeds that may take two years to grow to maturity are destroyed in just a few evenings. If I want to harvest Hedyscepe seed I must enclose the spadix with wire mesh. Here is the Hedyscepe damage, note that they spurn the outer husk and devour the endosperm.

My Rhapalostylis and Hedyscepe seeds are eaten by Rattus rattus.

I have been eyeing these plants in the neighborhood for a while. They look vaguely like baby palms and have definite tropical vibes. I chatted up the owner and asked a few questions. Turns out they are irises! These are Iris confusa, aka the bamboo iris from sub-tropical southeast Asia. She bought them from a nursery in the Bay Area (California). Allegedly hardy to just zone 9, these have survived and grown from tiny starts through two brutal zone 7 type winters here. Love the leaf colors and shape.

Here’s a photo of Santa Cruz Beach just south of the SF Bay Area and, as you can see, there are lots of Washingtonia growing in the beach sand.

Ah yes, if you are planning to leave them on the plants for months then yes, that's a factor. I only put them on on the nights when frost is predicted and then remove them next day. It's tedious and annoying indeed but necessary. You are in zone 8A I see so things are very different than in my 9B. I hope the new fleece solves all issues for you!

It’s probably a matter of definition. As C macrocarpa var macrocarpa and C macrocarpa var hookeri are formally different varieties, they are considered genetically distinct so a cross between the two would be a varietal hybrid. Generally in horticulture I think the word hybrid is reserved for interspecific crosses but technically it can be used for a cross between any two genetically distinct parents.

Hey yall, I happened to be biking through part of my neighborhood in Anacortes with kids just after the New Year. My kids, being familiar with my willingness to stop everything to admire palm trees, shouted out: "Look, baba! Palm trees!" Sure enough, there was one Trachycarpus fortunei standing tall as a flagpole. Then I noticed the fronds of some cocoid looking palms (or rather, should I say: Attaleanid) tucked along the driveway. I'm going to go back up there and see of I can chat to the folks living there and get any intel!

Repotted the Lady palms before the cold weather sets in tonight…

We're expected to get our first winter weather over the next several or so days. As a precaution I've bundled the Cordyline leaves with temps at some point expected to bottom out in the low 20'sF / -6°C.

Poor kittens.. I also have insomnia sometimes so I know it sucks. So it must be a nocturnal animal then... fox, badgers, jackals..?

I spotted these in Terlingua, Texas last weekend outside the La Kiva restaurant. The area probably saw close to 10°F in December 2022 and probably lower in the past. It appears they have only taken outer branch damage. There are dead Washingtonia hybrids close by. Possibly Eucalyptus nicholii?

yes Konstantinos I saw

In the doldrums of Northern hemisphere winter, an old thread worth reviving... Let's have some color! What's blooming in your garden? Handroanthus heptaphyllus Salvia x guaranitica 'Costa Rica Blue' Salvia 'Amante'

I will, it’s already lightly snowing. Well good news is we had a -3 night last week and my queen had almost 0 damage here is a photo of how the newest frond looks like (the other two where already stress damaged). But overall I believe my garden has a decent microclimate as temperatures on my thermometers are always 2-4 degrees higher than the radar

I guess it depends on the garden and your goal. If your garden is large enough and you don't mind having a colder corner, then no need to do anything. You can just plant more cold tolerant plants there and keep the sensitive ones at higher points. In my case, because my garden is not big, I don't have this luxury. How big the opening on the fence should be, again I don't think there is a universal answer. I'd start small, leave thermometers there overnight and see if it's made any change. If not, try to make the opening wider until you see that the cold air has stopped pooling.

I am in a slope. Such rainfall would create a cloud forest lol! Do you know how i managed to grow moderately tall some of the Phoenix spp, especially theophrasti, in the steepest parts if my garden? Only this way: https://youtu.be/YN9QvifUDbs?si=TqWuRLjiPcL-SQG0

Oh wow, your soil is cr@p too 😁. I have regretted not making beds in my garden last year. If I started again now, I'd build beds for all plants that need acidic, richer soil. I'll do it for whatever I plant from now on. Praktiker sells those ready-made wooden fences, I'll use those and some stones. Trust me, you don't. It's been raining non stop for 4 days now. It's raining even when the sun is out, like right now! My bathtub is covered in mold. Plants don't like it either. My Acacia tortilis lost all its leaves because the roots are suffocating. I am trying to rescue it but it seems hard. If I get another one, I'll make a mount for it. Wow! Congrats! I have never eaten one.

We crave here in the east for some of your local precipitation! After two heavy downpours even my Cherimoya has ripened a fruit.

They are a beautiful little palm, I first discovered them 27 years ago so an old favourite of mine I have known for a lot of years, which makes them special to my palm heart! Definatly a palm for your patio in a container. RICHARD

First 2 pictures look like pinanga coronata!

I’d personally play it safe and ensure it’s shaded from the start. I don’t think there’s such a thing as too much shade for Lepis.

Zephyrhills is identical to my area climate wise. Not surprised about these the last few years. New port richey has some huge mature fruiting coconuts now.

Happened across this lot in Zephyrhills today. There were a few coconuts that had mature leaves. They didn't look to be there all that long from what I could tell on Street View, but still commendable none the less. Zephyrhills - May 2025

For palms that size I like partial shade , mostly. It looks very healthy and I am not familiar with that species so I don’t know how much sun it likes. The second location seems to fit and it looks like it will have more room there. Just my humble opinion, Harry

At least 7.5, but irrigation water is even more alkaline 8.2, so it should be a constant struggle to keep soil pH low.

They are a little rare Metallica seeds, available in certain places but somewhat rare. Next season i will see how I go if I can get some for you!🌱

Upon request by the owners and IPS president Andy Hurwitz I am posting information about a one of a kind legacy property available for sale in Hawaii. PT is not normally the correct venue for real estate ads, but I believe when you read more you will see why an exception is made here. Although memories of my visit there in 2022 will forever be etched in my mind, please address inquiries to the owners, not to me personally. Please see information and photos from the owners: A New Chapter for Casa de Las Palmas We purchased Casa de Las Palmas in 2017 from the estate of legendary nurseryman Jerry Hunter. Jerry was the owner of Rancho Soledad Nurseries in California, Palms of Paradise in Hawaii, and Mount Soledad in Pacific Beach. Dubbed the "Dean of California Landscape Architects", he held license #33. His designs are found throughout the San Diego area, including San Diego Zoo, Balboa Botanical Gardens, and a host of other public and private venues. Along with collecting and hybridizing many new plant varieties, he built the first plant tissue culture laboratory in San Diego. Casa de Las Palmas was Jerry's private Hawaiian retreat. Over the course of 35 years, Jerry transformed seven acres of upper Hilo farmland into a true garden masterpiece, creating a magical realm of exotic palms, waterfalls, meandering lava-rock paths, water gardens, and flowering tropical plants. Now over 45 years since planting began, it's a vast and mature botanical collection of rare palms, cycads, philodendrons, bromeliads, anthuriums and orchids. We have been honored to be the caretakers, but the time has come for us to move on, so we are offering the property for sale. Before we list it on the open market, we want palm and garden lovers to know it is available, in the hope that we can find a custodian for the future. The property has a 2-bedroom, 2-and-a-half-bathroom house with a separate apartment, and potential for additional dwellings. We currently do private garden tours, film shoots, and small events, and there is plenty of room to grow a successful business here. We had the delight of hosting IPS members for a lunch and tour during the 2022 Biennial in Hawaii. Please do contact us if you would like any further information. Irene Francis & Lars Woodruffe 646-338-7882 irenefrancis@hotmail.com https://houseofthepalms.com/

Updated pictures of my Copernicia Fallensis and Tahina Spectabilis as of today….

Brand new medjool and Cuban royal. This Cuban royal is massive! It was only 300$. Hopefully it fares better than the small one I had before.

One Green World sells them. These are generally considered the most cold hardy of the Eucs. Easy to start from seed as well, they require cold stratification There are a few subspecies but I never heard of any difference in hardiness between them. I’ve grown it and it was commonly grown in Portland. After 8 years mine was only about 15 feet tall. It grew quickly the first couple of years and then slowed down a lot.

It could be that rodents like the fruit . I don’t have any trouble with the seeds hanging off my palms up here in the gardens . My neighbor’s cat is constantly patrolling my yard Down on the hill , squirrels will eat the Butia fruit as soon as it ripens . I have observed it from up on our deck. They must be clever little thieves to navigate the armed petiole. Harry

Cats are diurnal so they sleep when birds are most active (my cat sleeps non-stop from 10am to 6pm). I don't know what kind of animals are in your area, but could it be foxes or badgers? We have loads of them here. Also ferrets. Perhaps they are not as abundant in Attica; the many creeks here help sustain them.

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Bulbophyllum 'Wilbur Chang' is STILL blooming. It started in late summer and has had over 20 serial blooms

No worries! Anacortes, Sequim, Port Townsend, Bow, etc. as well as Whatcom County (Bellingham etc.) makes up one of the very few areas of the USA that have *colder* average winter minimum temperatures in the USA compared to previous decades due to a trend of stronger weather patterns increasing the strength and reach of the Fraser outflow Squamish winds!

Just harvested today! 50/$20. 100/$30 total; shipping included. Seeds sent cleaned or with fruit on to prolong freshness - your choice. Very fast growing palm once a trunk is formed. DM aztropic Mesa, Arizona

In another thread I made the point that Chamaedorea elegans is actually a solitary palm that is often sold as many tiny seedlings artificially clustered and jammed into small pots or cloying flower arrangements. If you know this, you can purchase a slew of them in a 4" pot for a few $$, separate them and pot them up individually. When you let them grow as nature intended you discover this slow-growing little palm is quite beautiful. I have them scattered around my property in pots and in the ground - they take up little space. I was asked to post photos of some of my planted little Chams, so today I did so and included a couple of potted ones I keep on the front porch between adirondack chairs. I think this overlooked and underrated palm deserves a topic of its own. As it requires mostly shade, it makes a good houseplant. This is my oldest and largest Cham. elegans. I think I planted it next to the screen of our front lanai 7-8 years ago. Even after all those years it is only about 30" tall. It flowers but sets infertile seeds because there is no male nearby. Does this species require a specific pollinator? The following groups of Cham. elegans were planted in the back yard.

Not labelled, but it looks like Heterospathe delicatula. Exceptionally beautiful palm.

The soon-to-open Twin Peaks has some interesting choices for landscaping palms: This one is WAY over-trimmed: