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I planted a sabal minor and needle palm in the ground this winter, and it seems I may have gotten a bit unlucky with my timing 😅 This has been the coldest winter for us since the year 2000, and unlike last year, where the lows were mostly short arctic blasts, the temps this year have stayed low (in the teens with occasional lows in the single digits) for weeks. We are finally back to having highs above freezing... I decided at the start of the winter to protect them with just a plastic home depot bucket over the sabal minor and a frost cloth over the needle palm to keep moisture out (needle palm too big for home depot bucket). I was hoping the temperatures weren't going to be as much of a worry as they have been... I have not checked on them yet since they got buried in 10" of snow and ice (now down to 6") a couple weeks ago. I'm hoping maybe all that snow and ice has helped to insulate them and keep them alive. Do you guys think they will make it through the winter? Hoping for the best!3 points
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The collection certainly increased last winter and spring, with a lot of new varieties going into the ground. And with the temperature the other day 38 degrees and somewhat hot and dry they faired up nicely. And with some great rainfall in the last couple of days and more on the way things are rather growing well. So if your in the zone push market for some new varieties these ones are tried and tested for cool conditions down to 2 degrees Celsius! lanonia centralisCalyptrogyne ghiesbreghtiana Calyptrocalyx yummutumunedypsis spArenga hookeriana Areca songthanhensischamaedorea nubium lanonia calciphilla arenga caudata Wallichia marianneaedypsis spchamaedorea Ernest augustii Johannesteijannia altifrons heterospathe barfordi polyandrococus caudescens synecanthus warscewiczianus Pinanga sarawakensis Chambeyronia pyriformis reindhardtia simplex ptychosperma cunneatumdypsis scottiana3 points
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Well I’ve got about 15 in the ground so if there all one sex I’d be totally miffed. I planted them so they’d be good for seed production and at the rate they’re growing it won’t be decades away. When they do I will be sending you seeds. They will grow for you and you must have them.3 points
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I watered the soil really well last weekend. Wanted to do 2x a week but I was so busy with work this week I didn't get a chance. I have been following my spear growth and all my palms are at least alive. The bottle is now pushing up green which makes me happy. I'm planning to add a root stimulator. Lukas said they also recommend a nutritional spray but I thought I read no fertilizer until at least March?3 points
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The foxtails on 17-92 in Sanford are very bronze... hopefully they will make it because it was a bold move by whoever planted them to plant them in the median somewhere that's a little marginal for foxtails, and they looked great before this cold front. They should be planted in more medians in general, in my opinion. @Merlyn has probably already seen these depending on where he lives in Sanford, but thought I'd share for others not in the area.3 points
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You can’t go past a good potting bench, an essential part of a grow operation, and yes height is one factor with a potting bench, no more sore back!3 points
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We are incredibly excited to be able to offer these very limited availability Sabals. Nearly extinct, and ripped out of the jaws of extinction we have a few available to us, and periodically will receive some more. Seeds from harvested in habitat, and grown here in the US. Feel free to ask if you have any questions or need something! https://sabalkingoftexas.etsy.com/listing/4457406898/sabal-antillensis-ultra-rare-caribbean https://sabalkingoftexas.etsy.com/listing/4457400029/sabal-lougheediana-extremely-rare2 points
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Butias love full blasting sun during the summer. Recovery will be even slower in the shade. I would reconsider its location if you are actually trying to get it to grow to a decent size, but only after it has recovered. In any case, give it time. You may not know the extent of the damage for a little while, some palms can be very slow at showing cold damage, especially in the shade where the sun is not able to dry out the damaged areas efficiently.2 points
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Let it have air time. Untie the fronds while its warm to let it breathe a little. Looking at the 7 day forecast for the Chicago area, you should not have to protect your windmills for at least the next week. Treat as described above, and monitor its progress.2 points
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As @NC-Key-Bar says, a mature B.odorata can survive 6°F, but a seedling likely not. To protect something that size, get a tube used to pour cement columns. Toss in some lights to warm it. If the spear pulls on this one, a replacement will be much faster as Butias are slow to recover a spear. They don't like freezing precip in the bud.2 points
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same with me! my first year growing any palms in the ground had to be a record breaker? I guess its a good test but id rather have the test when the palms are bigger. i think they will make it because 1 snow is a very good insulator and two they both are supposed to take colder temps.😁2 points
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These should do fine in New Zealand. I barely water these and the top layer is sand overlaying peat. Absolutely easy care. They’re not slow when they’re happy.2 points
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Great looking palms Tyrone. Almost got a R. xerophylla look to them!2 points
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You grow palms, you finally get a hold of that holy grail palm or that one you have wanting all your eternity in palm collecting, you go through all the hoops off importing your seeds, you finally get a few to germinate and you pot them up, place them outside and then in one night all are eaten by the rats. So iam not sure if this product is a good alternative to trapping and killing them. But the Wurth company seem to make good quality products, there have been a lot of products over the years that will take your money and do nothing in return except take your money. So if it works it may be a great little thing for the nursery.2 points
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Have a quick read of the notes it says does not contain biocidal components affecting pests or the environment, that being said sometimes enough is enough. Iam bit anti doctors drugs but hey if it’s going to cure you or save your life you gotta do what you gotta do. It’s such a shame we are land clearing and losing most of the things locked up in plants that can save the human race, lost forever a cure for diseases in one bulldozer sweep! May Marty rest in peace! Richard2 points
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Damn! Gonna think about them while I’m waitin’ fer a train….2 points
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We'll see you there. Usually it's me, Dave Hall, and Steve selling plants and T-shirts. The last couple of years have been good for sales. There was word going around that Cypress Gardens Nursery was going to have a booth. They sell palms as well.2 points
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They're looking great Tyrone...fingers crossed for a boy and a girl!2 points
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Wow Tyrone they are beauties! One I’m not growing but would love to.2 points
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That’s the go John, humidity is the only issue indoors. Start with coronata it’s easy and should be available if you look in the right direction, a few of the others might be a bit more difficult and expensive to start with!2 points
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Did you see the YouTube video where the guy tried to grow in pure Osmocote? I mean, I don't think I need to give you any spoilers here but his theory is that it failed because there was nothing to retain moisture and so much of it just fell out the bottom of the pot. I've always gone with the "less is more" theory - you're right on the watering. I mean, if you've had a plant long enough you can basically tell if it's dry by how much it weighs when you pick it up. Osmocote is popular because it's a slow release and it's almost impossible to overuse. There's also the Jobes plant food spikes. They just break down into the soil over a few months and they tell you how many to use by pot size. Adding some fish emulsion and/or liquid kelp or liquid seaweed every other watering isn't a terrible idea - stuff like this activates the bacteria that allow the palms to absorb the fert more effectively. I do not reccomend you use it at full strength indoors, unless you don't have a nose or buy Febreeze by the case. The soil you use plays a role, too. Lots of soils have fert and food built in, and you don't wanna overdo it and most peat based soil just turns into worthless dried out crap over time, and palms are so stupid about not telling you there's a problem until it's too late..... I can't really tell you what's gonna work best for you. I've used Carl Pool, the Jobes spikes, liquid fert, Jobes palm food (the pelletized 🐔 💩 kind, my dog found it delicious), now I'm using some Dr Earth stuff in some plants and I'm just using some cheap 4-4-4 slow release in others, I keep forgetting I've got Osmocote. I mean, there really isn't a one size fits all with pots. I personally disagree with the idea that more nutrients get leached out of pots, I might be wrong here - but it seems to me and my simple mind that more of the nutrients would stay in the pot unless you're just flooding them regularly. However, this ain't my background and I'm - there's no manual for this, all we can do is ask the people that have been doing it longer than us, because we learn how to grow stuff by killing stuff. At least now I'm down to killing stuff I grew from seed while it's still small instead of killing $150 plants. So basically I just wrote 8 pages to not give you an answer to your question.2 points
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Love them Tyrone. I finally got a small one last year and it seems to be going well after one year in the ground.2 points
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I mean for the second larger palm this has been its 3rd winter but first with this new protective method so I have no idea what went wrong compared to the smaller one.2 points
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That’s a pretty easy job, plenty of room around the one in the picture. As I theres have suggested a chainsaw or tree removal service. Chainsaws can be dangerous in some people’s hands, and a tree service some people don’t have that dory of money. You could use a strong rope and start to winch it in the direction you want it to fall for the bigger one, then remove the roots and soil around the back of you’repslm winching as you go. To remove the soil obviously a bit of work and to cut the roots use sawzill or reciprocating saw or whatever you guys call them. Plumbers use reciprocating saws to cut all sorts of things very effectively. The one in the open that’s smaller same technique, winch away, if you have 4 wheel drive hook her up and you would virtually pull that one over with a bit of soil root pruning. Or just use you reciprocating saw to cut off at the base again winching in the direction you want them to fall. Ladders are dangerous with cutting equipment and in unskilled hands, we have all watched you tube and seen what happens and a hospital trip later on. If you are skilled in using a chainsaws same technique winch away and cut! Another method a bit slower drill a hole and pour a herbicide into it the palm will eventually die and if you watch it you can winch in the right direction at the required time to bring down, either way or whatever technique used don’t forget yell out timber as she falls just for some fun!!!2 points
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Four pairs of healthy Phoenix roebellini / Pygmy Date palms (8 palms total) currently have a date with a chainsaw. 😢 Thought I’d offer them here in case someone wants to rescue them. I’m in Carlsbad (North San Diego County). Another palmtalker was interested, but the logistics didn’t work out. These are mature palms, already planted when we bought the house in 2007. They were transplanted once many years ago (from backyard to front), so digging *might* be a little easier than if they’d never been moved—but they’ve been in place for a while, so not sure on that one. The deal: You do the digging. My husband can help move them to your truck, and the smaller plants around them would be removed in advance for easier access. Hard to get a good pic, but here’s a few of them. There are 8 total, in pairs of 2… And here’s a ChatGPT interpretation of them in early March if no interest… It’s a bit sad to cut healthy palms, but something’s got to give to make room for the more exotic stuff. PM if interested in them.2 points
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Well since it is a balmy 50°F right now, curiosity got the best of me and I decided to at least take a look at the sabal minor. I know it's hard to see in the picture since lighting is dark, but it looks really good, I don't see any foliage burn or anything (I know sabals have very hardy fronds, so that doesn't necessarily mean we are out of the woods). The center "spear" which is basically a half-opened frond felt solid and looked flawless. I didn't uncover the needle palm because it is still half-covered with snow that I didn't want to get in the crown and melt then freeze again. The pup which is very tiny - 1 strip leaf and a spear - managed to get outside of the frost cloth (don't know how long it has been that way), and it seemed solid and didn't show any foliage burn, so I think that's a good sign. On the other hand, should I look to uncover these for a while starting Monday? The forecast says we are supposed to get rain/snow around freezing tomorrow overnight, but then temps look pretty good for about a week. I think it would be good for them to uncover and get some fresh air/sunlight. My concern is with all the snow that it could melt and get water in the crown which could refreeze when temps go back down below freezing (this is an unseasonable warm up). Curious what you guys think would be best. Pic below of 10 day forecast in apple weather app. Sabal Minor: Needle Palm: Forecast:1 point
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Hey there yall! Long time no post and see! This is ChicagoPalma here, just cannot log onto my old account and I need some immediate assistance here! So far, I took off the enclosures for the palms, and this year instead of making it out of fosmboard, I made it out of reflective bubble wrap and chickenwjre. So far, the small windmill did amazing, but the larger one did horrible. The spear pulled and I am not sure what to do atp. Anything anyone can help with?1 point
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I also don’t have much hope for this guy even though he’s been through low teens and single digits, but the mold is just everywhere.1 point
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Hopefully they make it. Those species have survived lower, but the duration matters as well. I personally love seeing Sabal minor and Rhapidophyllum hystrix migrating up the coast and hopefully establishing. Keep the rest of us up to date!1 point
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https://fngla.regfox.com/2026-palm-quest-conference? Above is a link to information about Palm Quest. I have never been able to attend but am posting it for general interest. I believe it happens only once every 2-3 years so go if you can and report back to this topic please.1 point
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Nice video on a proper Texas jungle. It’s only the first 9 minutes. It doesn’t focus as much on the Sabals but they are shown.1 point
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