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Here’s mine after its first winter season. The burn on the leaves is mostly from 1 or 2 nights of frost but it was initially the fastest large plant I put in the ground (compared to a. Cunninghamiana, parajubea torallyi, Bismarckia, Roystonea regia). It’s in full sun but it was planted as a 25g so that has probably helped it survive here next to the foothills.3 points
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Will be interested to see what percentage of foxtails die or survive in the Orlando area. Regarding how surprisingly some of the coconuts and foxtails are recovering: my theory has been that since these palms have had 15 years of warm winters (sans Jan 2018 which wasn't technically a hard freeze even), they are more resilient/have better recovery than if there had been more periodic cold events leading up. I don't think this will be the case with your palms @pj_orlando_z9b since you're in one of the warmest microclimates in Orlando: but as I'm sure many know,, damaged palms that push out green growth can still succumb later. Latent damage can show up, and while the bud may recover, areas of trunk damage can occur (I've seen this with queens in Northwest FL) and the small area of damage will grow over time/erode until the trunk is compromised. I would see this happen with queens with freezes below around 22 degrees. Since foxtails are already more tender, I wonder at what temps trunk damage occurs with them. Even if most foxtails/coconuts recover in the warmer parts of Orlando, it'll be interesting to see how the same species do in the colder parts or north towards Sanford like what @Merlyn 's experienced.2 points
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For shrubs here, it's hard to beat Podocarpus. @flplantguy likes to use Myrcianthes fragrans (Simpson Stopper) . @HudsonBill might have a few favorites, too.1 point
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I'm making a separate thread to discuss the non-palms for climate/conditions such as Spring Hill, FL to keep this thread focused on palms (I realized I might want to post more about them than originally thought)1 point
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Black Swan is a hybrid from Brian's Botanicals that's supposed to be relatively close to Thai Giant size and the Plumbia Nigra is supposed to be a pretty decent size too. I could probably throw one of these Thai Giants (I have 5 bulbs) in there or one of the 27,000 Jacks Giant I have, and I've got a lot of Black Magic. This is my first year playing with colocasias and alocasias so it's gonna be a fun learning curve. I guess one advantage I do have is I can dig them up and start my bulbs early so I don't have to worry about starting from scratch, but I learned the hard way that starting bulbs in December is way too early. I'm looking for something massive to put here. I don't want that "wow" factor. I want that "holy 💩" factor. Nice pun btw.1 point
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I guess in theory I can throw the clip on grow lights where they belong - in the damn trash. The PPFD on those is an absolute joke. But it was 2020 and I didn't know any better and quality LEDs cost hundreds of dollars back then. If anybody cares, this is a a 30w 2 foot Freelicht tube and it absolutely kills the Barrina lights that flood Amazon with their ads as measured with Photone. I'm gonna throw more alocasias and philos in here, I've got so many big colocasia bulbs sprouting (SOOOO STOKED FOR THE REDEMPTION! The hot pink is gonna look so sick next to the hot pink crape myrtles and I got them literally the day before they went back to full price) and caladiums (spicy lizard, blaze, John something [the white 3 leaf ones] and candidum), thai giant colocasia (5! Bulbs), a shit ton of Black Magic, Hawaiian Punch, White Lava. One of the Thai giant bulbs was rotten - bought from Greenhouse PCA on Amazon, Phillip the Owner sent me 3 more (one is the size of my damn forearm), some of the caladium bulbs from Walmart went squish so I got a refund, and I ordered another 50 pack of 5 gallon pots off Amazon. FedEx put them someplace they've NEVER set a package before and yeah, we had some storms. I actually found the box in the woods. I don't know why people say it's hard to get a human rep with Amazon, it isn't. I know at least a couple of the pots got smashed. You think I'm gonna go through all 50? No. $35 courtesy credit. I'm sure the pots are fine but when they offered me an apology my inner Karen came out. And then they offered me $20? Dog these were $55 and cost $60 now. Anyway Buy stuff. Buy my Marge Simpson Playboy. Buy my Mr. T in your pocket. Buy this 2 foot philodendron. I wanna upgrade to big boy grow lights for this fall. I wanna buy insulation and paint. Maybe I wanna build a greenhouse. Maybe I wanna buy glucose monitors.1 point
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It’s pretty common here. I’ve got about 20 different kinds of sucking insects on everything in the yard. They will kill small palms and crotons, and damage larger plants severely if not kept in check. Good news is they die easily, but always come back given enough time. Blast that fuzzy away with a hose or wipe it off. It acts like a waterproof fuzzy covering.1 point
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The back to back days of big wind storms did a number on my coconut burned fronds. Almost all snapped! Revealed lots of promise as new green showing. You can see the newest spear on the left side is mostly green. I can see some brown mixed in which hopefully will work itself out. Still hard to look at.1 point
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Beat me by 2 degs, lol.. ..Well, using the WX underground station downtown ( topped out at 97F ) .. Acouple other neighborhood stations nearby did reach / exceed 100F though.. Rest of the neighborhood stations hung in the 94-98F range.. Had some trouble saving all the screenshots i'd wanted to across CA today but, needless to say, HOT ..in most areas.. out there.. Several neighborhood level upper 80s / 90F readings around San Francisco / coastal Monterey Bay and Santa Cruz / exceeding that around the South and East bay.. Plenty of 100 / 100+ readings across S.Cal / 90 /90+ readings close to downtown San Diego.. Wild for mid March, no matter how you dissect it. Be very interesting seeing which current temp forecast verifies come Sunday.. Wx Underground's tops out at 106 here on Friday, while the P n' C forecast from the NWS has 2 days reaching ( ..perhaps exceeding?.... 😬 ) 107F ..It also holds onto the 100s thru Monday.. ..Right now at least.. As you can see, even if that doesn't happen, ..for now at least, we're hanging onto 95+ heat thru ..at least.. the 26th. Craziness. ( ..also, for now, ) Only area that may cool back to ..what would be normal highs for us here in / around PHX?? ( 76 -80F btw ).... ..S.F Bay Area ..by next Tuesday.. Mid 70s there, in late March? = pretty warm. More later if any records broken are posted..1 point
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99F high for me today (almost!) and it only gets hotter as the week progresses.1 point
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Welcome to PalmTalk. It has the trademark symptoms of Lethal Bronzing. If the arborist injects the affected palm with antibiotics and it the symptoms go into remission, it would all but confirm the test results were incorrect.1 point
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My first C. baileyana arrived from I don't remember where in a long skinny box that once held a baseball bat. When I opened the box I almost had heart failure. The seller had unpotted it, hosed it off then tossed it into the box - no padding, wrappings, nada. Just a 6-8" baileyana with 18" of bifurcated root rattling around its cardboard shipping container. I gave him what-for and detailed instructions on packing/shipping. He immediately went ballistic and reported me to eBay for having the nerve to diss him. Upshot to this kerfuffle: I potted my Copernicia, then held my breath. In 2 months it sent roots out of the drain holes. I planted it on our unirrigated Garden Lot. It's trunking now. This is a tough palm.1 point
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I don't have any to spare yet (still populating areas of the yard with it)... but I can offer a data point that "colocasia fontanesii" might be a good variety to try in your Muck Hole®. I haven't had the best luck with colocasia generally - but of the ones I've tried, "fontanesii" has been the most successful, even spreading into the lawn at times (which is easy to fix by re-routing the runner). Most of the other colocasia types I've tried have done okay for a season, but not returned the next (or come back at a laughably small size). I recently took a clump of "fontanesii" from another area of the yard, and stuck it in a spot that has terrible drainage (and where several other plants have already died). And it seems really happy there. There's a thin layer of mulch on top, but underneath is 100% icky, gooey, muddy, mud. Here's a quick snap of the muddy clump this morning...1 point
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Starting to get a better feel for things now that some time and warmer weather has gone by. This rain we are getting will also help give a push. Everything already got a dose of granular fertilizer plus some liquid feeds here and there. Now it's mostly a waiting game. Of my 3 big Coconuts, I'm seeing some green on at least one of them which is encouraging. Satakentia is still an unknown. Royals seem to be putting some green out and same with my 3 big Foxtails, thank goodness. Archies are all doing well with a couple exceptions that are in limbo. Still not sure of my twin trunk Hurricane palm....and the single Adonidia next to it. My big Bottle might make it. My Pandamus is now done. Entire tip clusters just dropping right off. Riding it out....1 point
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You can get away with zone ten plants only south of SR52 and west of little Rd in denser developments. Past that it's a solid zone 9 for long term stuff, especially in the open. Low spots are disasters in radiational freezes, which are more frequent than anywhere else in the area and see thick frost. Once you go northeast of 52 and Little the area is more 9a, but missing a lot of 9a chill hours (still some though) with temps of 19 happening every few years (lowest spots are far worse). Frost and hard freezes are a certainty in the area of north Pasco away from any wetlands or moisture, the Sandy soil is very dry, depleted of nutrients, and heats rapidly afterwards. It's a challenge to grow much and keep it happy, but legumes and drought/frost/cold tolerant palms do well if they like humidity. If you move to hernando pick a spot high on a hill and closer to the Aripeka area (or on water of course) and you can do more under canopy. From 52 to Chrystal River near the coast is a more reliable 9b with few 9a or 10a winters. Inland spring Hill and shady hills would be good for lower chill panhandle stuff. If you really want warmer and can go a bit further south, aim for the elfers area just east of 19 on SR54. Adonidias there were burned but alive this winter, and archontophoenix are easy. My winter lows near Aripeka Sandhills preserve were: 2022-2023: Christmas freeze 2 nights 27-30, January 16 31.8 with a 32.2 the day before. 2023-24: 32.2 advective, rest 10b (El nino) 2024-25: 33 in early December and frost, 26 or 28 January 25 after multiple days at 33 2025-26: 12 freezes (first 2 in mid November), 2 at 29 advective, many 30 to 32 radiational, and the big one was a radiational 24.6 after the second advective 29 (it was 22 inland at st Leo the same night with wind, so there is some water influence just not nearly as much as a bit south) Hopefully that info helps, just a stone throw away from me (almost literally, I'm in an odd spot) inland hitting 19 to 22 radiational is a regular occurrence and there are few queens or pygmy dates, and I've seen one small Bismarck. That area people don't garden at all or use greenhouses for things. I'm using one for most of my plantings and am transitioning to mostly desert plants in the front yard thats open, they do better (and natives). A drive down 19 a short distance and most years mangos and similar are fine, this year and 2018 fried the nothernmost openly planted one. If I had known all this detail before I likely would have pushed for a smaller lot in southwest Pasco to avoid the major dips, but I like my space here too.1 point
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Can you share a photo of the entire palm? I love the silver petioles. Glad it's doing well even in low humidity.1 point
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Very good job on that palm. The challenges that you face are well beyond what us , more temperate gardeners face , kudos for sure! Harry1 point
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I'm keeping the big pot as my breeder. And I guess I'll post this here for both of the people that still read this and haven't moved to Facebook with everyone else. What's on the way/what needs potting (5) Thai Giant colocasias (2) Colocasia Redemption (the glossy black and hot pink ones, they're gonna look so dope next to the Crape Myrtles) Colocasia Jurassic Jellyfish Alocasia Nebula Imperialis Alocasia Bisma Platinum Alocasia Black Velvet Alocasia Maharani Alocasia Cuprea "Red Secret" Philodendron Black Cherry PPP Philodendron Plowmanii And a Ficus Elastica variegated Ruby pink to replace my mom's old plant that died. After a long talk - well, I don't know if I'd call it a long talk, but we both tend to write really long messages - anyway, @teddytn told me I need to find my niche and diversify, which sounds so contradictory but it's really not. Palms will always be my first love, but tropical stuff has kinda pulled me away. I'm excited to get all these little starter boogers going, all of these are things I can propogate and keep em going. Time to sell some stuff and get some stuff in the ground.1 point
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I feel like suckering palms are a great choice for borderline areas. Suckers will likely live on and you wont have to completely replant. Sucks to lose the tallies though.1 point
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I have visited Fairchild Tropical Garden in Miami FL many times but always enjoy seeing new additions and checking on “old friends”. This Sabinaria caught my attention especially since it looks untouched planted outside despite the recent cold spell here. I eagerly await mine growing big enough to show off the gorgeous leaf shape and color! Below are two different Kerriodoxa elegans. Rhino beetles in Puerto Rico love these so not sure if I will get any to trunking size. I am really looking forward to seeing them in habitat in Phuket Island.Thailand on the soon to start IPS post tour. Calyptrocalyx albertisianus is a fairly new addition to my own farm after I saw a beauty at Dean Ouer’s place in HI a few years ago. Here is one at FTG reminding me that they are likely to be much taller than my other more shrub size Calyptrocalyx. I am including a striking cycad that I wish I grew. Microcycas calocoma.1 point
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Moon Valley Nursery made up name I'm willing to bet. Piru King Palm® Syagrus romanzoffiana 'piru' x Butia Capitata ‘King' Cold and Heat Tolerant Easy to Grow Low maintenance and little pruning Exclusively available at Moon Valley Nurseries For the price the OP likely paid for it, I would be calling them and telling them to get a replacement in the ground ASAP.1 point
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Hello all. I post an update from last week about our C. renda which is still in its little house that we built around new years day. That thing builds up so much heat that It Is hard to believe that It likes it. This march and april we have been almost 1 C below thé historical average, so thé protection is still on. ... Until Monday I suppose. Carlo VID-20250405-WA0010.mp41 point
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I had to check what's happening under the surface of one that hadn't come up and I'm glad I did. The leaf shoot had embedded itself in a ridge of the root, so I freed it. It look thick an healthy minus any green but I expect it will make a full recovery. Thanks to people detailing the toughness and resilience of these sprouts which I've benefited from.1 point
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Not my palms but planted out in my vicinity in front of a farm. It doesn't look like the farmer really takes care of it but they are nevertheless big clumps covering the whole length of the farm, about 100 meter. You see those here only planted out in the south, up to the middle of the country really. these here are easily 6/8 meter tall.1 point
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