It’s all for the love of palms basically my drive and passion for my hobby, so can one put a figure on a hobby not really. But you also have to make your money back when that hobby goes into a small business stage. As you say the fuel station is an example, remember the Telstra phone cards sold by the fuel stations, they made no money on the phone cards sold by but it got the people into the shop. That one sabinara as a seedling grown on to a six inch container is still sold for $250, so if you’re buying a small seedling it’s still worth $250 in my nursery that’s the potential of the seedling. Chambeyronias are sold gor $10 bucks in a six inch pot, mainly because the seeds are available locally, take a sabinara and golden canes to the markets and you will bring home the sabinara and sell all the golden canes. The palm collecter market is very small in Australia. It’s tricky market the rare and exotic one, take my palms to the Gold Coast and you will sell the sabinara over time, you have to find that market and in my area it’s another ten years away, it’s slowly coming to my area but slowly. It’s a volatile market out there and until the rare palms become more available it’s a supply and demand thing. And once they become common, there not rare anymore. But for the time being the fuel station is beating my nursery hands down. @tim_brissy_13 summed it up with the syagrus seeds!