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Here’s an update on how this palm looks roughly two years later. It’s been a relatively fast grower for me so far and is one of the most colorful palms in my collection.

These are at the corner of N. Delaware and 1st. Thought I would share pictures, as these are starting to clear the hedge in front. Nice old house back there too.

Guys, meet my Daltons😎. In this case not the Dalton brothers, but the sisters!

I had this happen and it was the only bamboo I have allowed to form a big, tall clump and only one damaged. Lesson understood. The bamboo will be fine but there is real damage to all understory plants - palms, anthurium, aroids now scorching in full sun and burned up.

Here's my Licuala Fordiana (I think this one is Fordiana, who needs tags, right?) and Chuniophoenix Nana getting engulfed in a shitshow bed from my last Floribunda order a year or 2 ago. I did protect last winter with a pot flipped over them and a string of lights balled up inside the pot. As they get bigger I'll start pushing them farther with low temps and see how it goes. My in-ground Lanonia collection all croaked at 20 last winter.

Ceratozamia totonacorum

A lot of stuff from Taiwan seems to have good cool tolerance. Kontumensis, malaiana, ahmada along with densiflora all did well for me this winter. So more zone pushing has paid off. While not in the ground yet, but if they make it as seedings they stand a pretty good chance of living. We both need to build a mega heated hothouse, but one problem it won’t ever be big enough!

Ptychosperma elegans flowering away.

Spoke with Jeff a couple days before; wasn’t worried about rain, but the potential wind had him a bit stressed. It’s an active planet, no doubt.

I was also excited to get myself a birthday present recently. I found a couple of silver Sabal uresana from Teddy's Nursery on eBay. They arrived healthy, and they already have great color: That little leaflet on the left is a dactylifera for color comparison.

I had the chance to visit Discovery Point at SeaWorld San Antonio today, and I snapped a few pics while there. Nice use of Sabals: Chamaerops: There are a few Phoenix dactylifera in the area. This one was a pup growing up from a stump: While this one appeared to be planted as a single (not a pup) There were even some really over-trimmed needles in the area: And some Butia: My 8 year old for scale: Sagos and counties: Lastly, it has been so hot and dry for the last month that even the squirrels at SeaWorld are feeling the heat. This one was laying flat on shady concrete under a fan:

Chamaedorea woodsoniana crownshaft patterns.

Given the potential damage it sounds like you did pretty well. The fact that you didn't bring up any damage to your house, safety issues must have been limited to flying debris.

It’s pretty easy to see what makes a saintlucei so popular. You can’t go past that beautiful look of an accent palm, with a trunk that’s straight as an arrow and the arched leaves to the white crownshaft. Easy to grow with a little dry, cool tolerance. They love black sandy loam soil that’s free draining. Single plants will set seeds. Just another one of those Chrysalidocarpus that are an absolute winner!

Shift your mindset and you'll get better results. You could do any or all of the following: Remove the weeds Mulch heavily Install a watering system Add fertiliser Provide shelter We're all trying to grow plants where they wouldn't grow naturally...I've had more failures than I care to remember...but it's not the plants fault, it's never the plant that sucks.

A few listings I have for some of my palms. The price reflects what it actually cost for rare and exotic palms now. It’s not cheap growing exotic palms nowadays with customs fees, germination rates, shipping, phytosanitary certificates, soil pots, water, electricity for pumps. Plus many other hidden fees. So what should a rare palm be priced at when you consider what it takes, after the real mathematician has had at go at some numbers. Is it how rare the seeds are, how hard to obtain and so on. If you import the seeds it’s a whole new number again that gets added to the cost of everything. So just one plant germinates from a hundred seeds that cost ex amount of dollars to buy and import. You’re not going to take a lose on that business venture. If you germinate a hundred out of a hundred then the cost of a palm can be a lot cheaper from the grower. Seed availability is another factor, hard to obtain seeds of endangered species changes the mathematical equation a lot. This puts a higher price on such palms. So it’s not the growers fault for the prices it’s the cost of the whole thing of growing rare and exotic palms. Some palms will take years in Australia before there is a local source of rare palms, and then they may not set seeds. And even then a not to open public supply, with seeds being so rare they would most certainly go to others in the palm community. That’s the cost of rare palms nowadays. It’s supply and demand like any business it cost to produce. The only real solution is to have a garden full of exotic palms to collect seeds. Mind you though they all look beautiful in my garden, so I know the look that can be created with rare and exotic palms. I would happily pay this amount for such beautiful palms to have in my garden if I wanted a tropical garden that’s for sure worth every penny!

Chamaedorea radicalis, a nice Cham to have in the garden very tough and a lot good looks for little effort.

We got hit pretty hard by hurricane Lala With many trees down. I got very lucky that the only palm loss was a Kerriodoxa elegans that had the unfortunate fate to end up under a giant fallen Guatemalan cypress and one of my peach palms came down. The Kerriodoxa still has a spear so it will make it. I chainsawed the peach palm and will eat the heart of palm, but it’s already got suckers coming up so no problem there. We’ve had a number of hurricanes come by pretty close, but nothing was ever as bad as hurricane lala. I also learned that the damage seems to be consistent with winds coming down vertically from above as opposed to sideways, which is very weird. Several places had trees down in a 360° radius. I looked this up and it seems to be a thing with hurricanes. They’re called mini downbursts. I was pleasantly surprised by the amazing tolerance of Bismarck palms. But also very disappointed in beccariophoenix which sadly are pretty much all leaning sideways. I am going to leave them that way so they make that coconut style curve at the base. But talk about a weak palm none of them have trunks yet so perhaps they will root in better once they make a trunk. I figured the Big Island would be a pretty safe place from global warming, but clearly it’s not. The super El Niño is churning out storm after storm and Hawaiian waters are now warm enough for them to actually intensify close by. on Sunday, another tropical storm is passing by this time much further to the south.I guess you can pick your poison, either fire And drought or hurricanes. I also learned what a hurricane cut means. Most of our royal Palms are now sporting that hurricane cut. They have a very effective coping mechanism of just dropping lower leaves, which is not good for anything going under them, but they look fine. .

Jeff’s place is all Palms no trees so I’m pretty sure he’s fine. Some roads flooded in Hawaiian acres during the storm. The rainfall at my place is in record territory for 2026. Before the storm we were already north of 200 inches for the year with still four months to go. The real danger for the Palms on the Big Island is the dreaded winter drought promised by El Niño. Rainfall will drop off significantly by October and we may look at very dry months all the way into February. But the El Niño is so strong it might be different. This El Niño is so strong that it has pushed the tropical convergences on literally to the doorsteps of Hawaii. This song is the cradle of hurricanes in the Pacific. Hawaii used to be a good thousand miles north of it. But the waters are so warm that the zoom now extends all the way to 500 miles south of Hawaii.

That blueish - silver Mediterranean fan is gorgeous 😱🤩. I was able to get 3 seeds from central Tx last week hopefully they grow for me in Florida.

I have found a lot of pindo seeds and sabal palmetto seeds, although the palmettos seem like they are not ready to fall yet, so they start to become available later in the fall, in numbers that are baffling. But I was wondering if anyone would want to trade some other types of seeds for them in the near future. RIght now I have about 50 butia capitata seeds that have been cleaned and are ready to germinate and I am germinating about another 60 or so. I'm new to this but I was wondering if anyone wants any of them, maybe to trade for other seeds, and if I should germinate them or send the seeds out as seeds. I definitely don't have room for 50-100 pindo /sabal palmetto palms so would love advice and any thoughts. I would love to grow some other types of palm trees as well.

I would happily pay those prices, though the only way they would make it to Western Australia is through a concierge service, the only reliable one I’ve found is Bob and Bev up in North Queensland. The plants would end up doing a round trip of Australia, triple the price and that’s also assuming they arrive healthy enough.. It drives me crazy our bio security laws.

What bugged me again was this sap sucking life taking creature they call an insect on my freshly potted ceroxylon parvifrons, the cheek of him!

That is pretty intense , I’m so glad you are ok . This is the first report of damage from the hurricane from our Big Island people . I see a lot of contributions from folks that live there and hopefully they are ok. My friend lives on Kauai and they had a bit better go of it , mostly rain and wind like tropical storm strength. I’m not sure how Southern California will do this winter but forecasts seem to agree that we are in for a lot of rain. I was here in 1997/1998 El Niño , the first year in our new home . It was pretty gnarly with some squalls dumping 1” per hour or more. Reminded me of 1969 and other wet years living in Ventura County . I am not a scientist but I do know , in my lifetime , things have changed a bit . We just have to hold on and hope for the best. Harry

I also ordered some Chuniophoenix hainanensis, as well as a few Lanonia dasyantha 'Super Mottled', Licuala fordiana, and Geonoma schottiana (I blame @Xenon for these). They will all go into raised beds. Happy to do group order with Floribunda (or RPS) in the future.

Iam quite impressed with the tashiroi, coming out of winter looking like it was a spring festival. Not too worried about winter the least, pretty good for a seedling.

Crownshaft palms seem to take storms better

I had one Saw Palmetto in ground make it a few winters in a dry spot, but it eventually died. The drainage was not great though, I wonder if it would have done better if I did something like this!

It should be one of the hardier Pinanga given its origin. Keen to try them down here in Melbourne at some point. P sylvestris and P baviensis are going ok this winter albeit in my unheated greenhouse.

I'm just a few miles south of Mike and 25 miles south of Jason. Lala was not too bad at my place. Estimated 40-50 mph wind all day with higher gusts. No palm damage. The electricity was out 4 days. Total rainfall over about 48 hours was 20". Sounds like a lot to folks in California, but nothing too exciting in Hawaii. Hurricane Lane dumped 55" back in August 2018. I think most of the dramatic video footage was taken at the extreme south tip of the island that had the closest approach of the storm's eye. Not expecting any significant effect from tonight's storm, Moke.

I grew these from open-pollinated seed off of a palm on Fort Myers Beach, FL that i also grew from seed that was purchased from Ortanique as A. purpurea circa 2004. if you look closely at the ones in the middle of the row, they have a little violet on the crown shaft. I am convinced that these are a A. purpurea x alexandrae hybrid. JD

These are beautiful healthy seedlings and someone should snap them up!

I'm in Kurtistown about 10 miles south of Hilo and at about 750 feet elevation. My report is about the same as Jason's above. No palm damage. Let's see if I can get a picture in here. MVI_8561.MOV MVI_8562.MOV MVI_8563.MOV The new storm Moke (Mok-ay) isn't as well developed as Lala, is farther away, but could produce another 10 inches of rain.

I did something similar sabal king of Texas mentioned piling sand around it and voila mine grew larger

Here is an Ai rating of Hedyscepe canterburyana

Looks to be a fat trunked hybrid, with some strong filifera traits. Leaves are not quite divided enough, but do have some minor split ends. Nice palms! Major splits on 13 year old filifera 14 month old also showing up. That is the fourth leaf after the strap leaf.

I’ve wondered about this. If you think about some species like Prestoea acuminata, various Geonoma sp like G undata, even Washingtonia filifera now that W robusta is lumped in, then the differences between Archontophoenix species (I’m thinking especially A alexandrae, maxima, myolensis and tuckeri) are relatively small. Recently genetic study is becoming much more accessible and affordable so hopefully there can be a study to understand the relationship between all of the Archontophoenix species.

Ramenta develops very early in A cunninghamiana. If your palms haven’t got it now, then they never will. Until last week I always thought of A cunninghamiana always having ramenta, but you’re now the second person to have confirmed plants in cultivation from seed collected from this population stay true to type and do not exhibit ramenta. Yeah agree with all that. One of 2 things must be true - the Dalrymple purple Archontophoenix are a new species, or the description of A cunninghamiana needs to be updated to include possibility of absence of ramenta ultimately it comes down to the question of ‘what is a species’. Perhaps genetic study can help decide if there’s enough difference between these palms and other A cunninghamiana from other locales vs the differences between other Archontophoenix sp.

I germinated a batch of these Jan 2026, coming on strong now in their second summer. I've got a couple extra, free to any local palm gardeners willing to pick up or meetup in the Ft Myers area. I have other misc seedlings around too, feel free to message if you're local I'd like to find good homes for them.

Looks horrific for anyone trying to grow anything. Might see more farming irrigation in the future, or a change to drought resistant crops. If this carries on growers will have to adapt or face going broke. Hope you guys get more friendly weather soon.

I watched a few of the news broadcasts from England. It was pretty shocking to see how bad it is, worse than I thought. It will be interesting to see if this trend continues or if it pops up every 5-10 years.

@Alicehunter2000 Yours looked pretty nice in the photo. Wish it was still around. @Eric in Orlando All things considered, it's doing pretty well. Hoping we all catch a break and have a more USDA-2023-Zone-Appropriate winter. I think @DoomsDave has a surplus of Chambeyronia he may be willing to share with those of us who are flamethrower-less.

Just got this today and can’t wait to see it grow. It’s endemic to Laos like the name implies. It’s going to get a wide base to the stem like C. clivicola

Cerotazamia sp Toman st Charlie still holding its colour in the new leaf.

Nobody has mentioned sabal Bermudana which is a very nice palm and has been unfazed down to 18f and a foot of snow for me

I grow this in Jacksonville FL ----collected the seeds in 1988 from habitat in Northern Domincan Republic --- in my front yard ---

Here’s the palm I started this thread about. Sold to me as baronii “black petiole” but might just be a colorful baronii. In fact, it looks a bit like the “regular” baronii from Floribunda in @iDesign’s photo. Whatever it is, I’m glad to have it in my garden. It’s just started to show a new growth point emerging on the left.

Sadly the black stems will likely be one of the later plantings... I'm most anxious to get my "Big Boy Dypsis" into the ground, then the smaller ones like these will come afterwards. Unfortunately it's now looking like Spring '25 at the earliest. 🙄 On a positive note, my largest Black Stem (from Josh) pushed out its largest frond yet...

If anyone in authority is REALLY interested in saving this species and widening its distribution, release some seeds for commercial sale.