Ti Plants

[spockvr6]

Then, after coming home from Junglegals last Saturday, I stopped by my parent's house.  My mother volunteered me to trim up their neighbor's backyard along the fenceline.  Part of the work involved cutting back dozens and dozens of red Sister Ti.  So, needless to say I left with something north of 50 (probably closer to 75) terminal (leafed out) cuttings, most of which were 3-4 ft long and nice and thick!

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Then, on Sunday I swung by Lowes and grabbed a few more Ti----

Exotica

Kiwi

Bolero

and one I cant remember just now.

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And a day or two later saw this labelled as "Hawaiian Boy" and bought it....but I am not so sure thats what it is????....More on that in a few posts.

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Then, this afternoon I finished work early and decided to hit a few Lowes (along with a WalMart) that I normally dont swing by much.  And, I hit another jackpot!

I picked up another bundle (about a dozen) nice Ti!

The best part is I didnt pay more than $9 for any of these plants.

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This was a really nice one I havent seen before.

"Sensation"

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This one was not named, but very pretty.  Anyone have any ideas?  It looks like maybe "Exotica" perhaps?

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A pair of "Dr. Browns"....I was surprised to see these two pots peeking out of the Walmart rack otherwise filled with Red Sisters!

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"Bolero"

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"Black Magic"...Ive got a bunch of these but they are among my favorites as they take alot of sun, grow fast, and have robust stems.

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"Bryan"

This is another Ive never seen around here before.  I like the thinner leaves and the brown streaks in the light green leaves.

"Fantasia"

Very dainty looking Ti!

"Pastel"

Nice and "pastel-ly" colors.

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"Auntie Lou Lou"

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Now...which of these is the "real" "Hawaiian Boy"?  Both were marked as such.

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Im going to turn this whole area into a Ti fest!  

They wont all get planted as shown in the pics...I just stuck them around the area for the time being.   Some will need some more shade...gotta figure out which ones.

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[Scott Mcintosh]

(spockvr6 @ Apr. 03 2008,14:22)

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(Scott Mcintosh @ Apr. 03 2008,13:14)

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Still looking for Dr.Brown and Aunti Lou Lou.

Scott-

I picked up 2 Dr Browns today at WalMart and an Aunti Lou Lou at Lowes!

Larry, What locations?? It looks like you got a good haul

[Scott Mcintosh]

(spockvr6 @ Apr. 03 2008,14:56)

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Now...which of these is the "real" "Hawaiian Boy"?  Both were marked as such.

My Hawiian Boy looks like the first pic

[junglegalfla]

Good god Larry, you went all out this week   Don't ever get that same kind of passion about orchids, you'll go broke LOL.

Nice scores! Is that the royal your dad was boasting about?? Nice yard too!

[ariscott]

Here is one of mine, the biggest one I have. I haven't taken photos lately.... and most of mine are still small. I am not good with names as most of them are sold without any names here... I guess the nursery can't be bothered working out which one is which....

BTW, this one is in full sun!!

Regards, Ari

[junglegalfla]

Ari,

Nice pic...looks like one I just picked up named jaquinii

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(junglegalfla @ Apr. 03 2008,15:45)

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Good god Larry, you went all out this week   Don't ever get that same kind of passion about orchids, you'll go broke LOL.

I get "hooked" on plants easily....when something strikes my fancy I fall hook line and sinker.

Yes...Thank God Tis are cheap!  Id be in serious trouble with Orchids for sure  

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(junglegalfla @ Apr. 03 2008,15:45)

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Nice scores! Is that the royal your dad was boasting about?? Nice yard too!

My father is too liberal with his well intentioned kudos

But, that is not the Royal he was talking about.  This one is coming along nicely (big fat booty    ) but I have another one about 15 ft away that has been in the ground a couple of years longer and is alot bigger.  Id say they are well grown specimens, but not anything that is wholly abnormal for a well fed Royal.

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(Scott Mcintosh @ Apr. 03 2008,15:31)

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My Hawiian Boy looks like the first pic

That was going to be my guess!

So...I wonder what "Hawaiian Boy #2" (the redder one) really is?

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(ariscott @ Apr. 03 2008,16:50)

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Here is one of mine, the biggest one I have. I haven't taken photos lately.... and most of mine are still small. I am not good with names as most of them are sold without any names here... I guess the nursery can't be bothered working out which one is which....

BTW, this one is in full sun!!

Regards, Ari

Nice one ari!

I agree with junglegal....looks like jaquinii!  I got one of these as a cutting from junglegal, and also stumbled upon one in Lowes (labelled the more "americanized" name of "Jackie") as well.  So, of course, I couldnt resist.

Im glad to see it like full sun as I planted mine as such.  Theyve been in full sun for about 3-4 days and havent burned, so I figured theyd be OK.  Your confirmation makes me think theyll be fine there.

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(Scott Mcintosh @ Apr. 03 2008,15:28)

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(spockvr6 @ Apr. 03 2008,14:22)

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(Scott Mcintosh @ Apr. 03 2008,13:14)

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Still looking for Dr.Brown and Aunti Lou Lou.

Scott-

I picked up 2 Dr Browns today at WalMart and an Aunti Lou Lou at Lowes!

Larry, What locations?? It looks like you got a good haul

The Lowes was the one on North Dale Mabry (just south of Fletcher) and the WalMart was the Superstore in Oldsmar on Tampa Rd.

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Anyone have any input on amount of sun/shade for any of these Tis?

[gsn]

Okay I have to confess I love these plants,but have had very little luck with them.  

I must have a BLACK thumb when it comes to these plants. I do okay with the crotons, mostly.  How do you keep them looking nice when they say they get unhappy under 50F degrees?

How do you guys get these through central Florida winters,south Florida I understand? I have had them freeze back,sometimes they come back from the roots ,but mostly they just don't. Whoa is me!I have about given up on them,any growing tips I might be missing? Or do you treat them as annuals,if they freeze ,you go buy NEW ones?

[junglegalfla]

OK Larry, here's where it gets interesting. Refer to my ti on the left in post 38.  That's what I bought as 'Jackie', different plant then what I picked up as Jaquinii (which was still in a pot when you came over) at Dolans. I sent you home with both..they may be the same because of sun but right now, I'm leaning towards different plants.

[_Keith]

(spockvr6 @ Mar. 19 2008,13:36)

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Keith-

I have littered this board with photos of my yard.....but not many recently.

These days, its hard to get good photos as I dont have a panorama lens and my yard is getting full!

Just getting back to this one.  I'll dive into the archives.

[ariscott]

(spockvr6 @ Apr. 03 2008,14:45)

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This one was not named, but very pretty.  Anyone have any ideas?  It looks like maybe "Exotica" perhaps?

I have similar one to that one and it has been growing in the sun for a year now. So, I think they are very tough. Full sun at my place is full blaring sun all day every day (except when it is raining). It is just recently I have semi shade for smaller stuff as my trees have grown in the past 18 months.

I will try to take photos and post it later.... Have to clean the house first this morning... and then gardening in the afternoon. I love my friday off :)

Regards, Ari

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(keiththibodeaux @ Apr. 03 2008,18:53)

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(spockvr6 @ Mar. 19 2008,13:36)

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Keith-

I have littered this board with photos of my yard.....but not many recently.

These days, its hard to get good photos as I dont have a panorama lens and my yard is getting full!

Just getting back to this one.  I'll dive into the archives.

I will take some more this weekend......Im due for a round of photos to document growth!

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(ariscott @ Apr. 03 2008,19:24)

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I have similar one to that one and it has been growing in the sun for a year now. So, I think they are very tough. Full sun at my place is full blaring sun all day every day (except when it is raining).

Great news!  I was hoping this one would take some sun.

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(junglegalfla @ Apr. 03 2008,18:20)

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OK Larry, here's where it gets interesting. Refer to my ti on the left in post 38.  That's what I bought as 'Jackie', different plant then what I picked up as Jaquinii (which was still in a pot when you came over) at Dolans. I sent you home with both..they may be the same because of sun but right now, I'm leaning towards different plants.

Hmmmm...the plot thickens Brenda!  

I would like them to be different plants as I have multiples of each

[junglegalfla]

I thought the one that Ari referred to in post # 69 was sold as Bolero at Lowes, No? I must admit I stopped there today to check them out     Obviously, this group of plants are as clear as mud. Reminds me of crotons and their gazillion names!

http://www.excelsagardens.com/Product....ID=4194

[spockvr6]

Junglegal--

You could be right.....these plants vary so much (even between the same variety) that I really have a hard time telling them apart sometimes.

At least I can ID Red Sister with some consistency!

[ariscott]

Actually might be a bit different, what do you think? I had to check out on my plants in my shadehouse... so I took the photo.

Regards, Ari

[SunnyFl]

(spockvr6 @ Apr. 03 2008,17:20)

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I get "hooked" on plants easily....when something strikes my fancy I fall hook line and sinker.

I'm like that too.  Esp. when it comes to palms and crotons, but cordylines are getting addictive too - I love my Dr. Frank Browns, and my husband is nutty about his Pink Diamond.  Wish the pics of it had turned out - it had a huge flower spike and the stems are wonderful.

I was regretting that I'd only gotten one Dr. Brown down in Lauderdale - but last weekend I found another at Sunscape here in St. Pete!

Larry you sure hit pay dirt - what a fabulous collection of cordies - wowsa!

[richtrav]

Scott

How long ago did you try ti plants in Titusville? Most types you see here in South Texas can take 30F or so with not much damage, they're hardier than most crotons here for sure. From my experience they either seem to be happy or will go into a slow decline (unless they get fusarium and then they quickly decline). I've had to kill a number to get the hang of them, it amazes me that there are so many down here that look good on what looks like minimal care.  There are a lot of the old large green forms, Hilo Rainbow, and a few Black Magic types in old yards here in S TX. They were all cut to the ground in '89 but regrew.

Have any Floridians had any luck with some of the dark forms seen in California like Black Ribbons or Caruba? They croaked fairly quickly for me (don't get me started on the New Zealand types; they are unadapted but the nurseries still sell them every year). The best ones for me have been Maroon Magic (the only one I'd call fast), Hilo Rainbow, Bolero, Sherbert, the giant green form, and the crinkly leaf green types. Glauca did OK but didn't grow fast enough and some surrounding plants overtook it (the Maroon Magic next to it kept on cranking). Others like Auntie Lou, Dr Brown and several others stay alive but aren't really doing much, and ones like Kiwi and Peter Buck started going into decline after a few months here. Rachel's Gold seems to be in a holding pattern and can't make up its mind if it's happy or not. Purple Prince, Pink Integrity and a few others died on me in some spots but survived after they had "hardened" in other sites. Some seem to have trouble developing good root systems, that may be part of the problem. The darker forms and the thick/crinkled leaf types do better as a general rule but there are exceptions.

By the way there is a huge difference between the two cultivars Dr. Brown, which is the low growing wide-leaf very dark form you see in stores, and the much rarer Dr. Frank Brown, which is a taller green form with brilliant pink new leaves. It is supposed to be one of the best and easiest cultivars, I hope to get it going this year in the yard (my Dr. Brown probably doesn't get enough water and has bug issues with that fat foliage).

And Ari, I'm very envious of those giant cornlike tis you have in Australia. I'd love to get the Australian Rooster Tail but apparently it's not available in the US, even in Hawaii

[ariscott]

Cornlike? I can't grow those ones that look like cordylines from NZ either... Too hot and humid for them. They would be ok in the dry season and then turn to mush in the wet.

Regards, Ari

[aussiearoids]

There is a real giant cultivar here called Maize that I must get , but I have always liked Rooster Tail . Ari there was miles of it at Whyanbeel .

Here is an old pic. of it .

[spockvr6]

(gsn @ Apr. 03 2008,17:33)

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Okay I have to confess I love these plants,but have had very little luck with them.  

I must have a BLACK thumb when it comes to these plants. I do okay with the crotons, mostly.  How do you keep them looking nice when they say they get unhappy under 50F degrees?

How do you guys get these through central Florida winters,south Florida I understand? I have had them freeze back,sometimes they come back from the roots ,but mostly they just don't. Whoa is me!I have about given up on them,any growing tips I might be missing? Or do you treat them as annuals,if they freeze ,you go buy NEW ones?

Scott-

These plant really are pretty easy to grow.  They like water and water and more water (but what tropical doesnt)!?!?!?

In the 8 years Ive been here, Ive never had one frozen back.  And, this past year (where it actually froze here and hit 29.5F in my yard) didnt do any damage except singing a few leaves on very exposed plants.

The beauty of these plants is that they propagate so easily.  If a plant gets taller than youd like, you merely snip the stem to the desired height and within a week new shoots will already be forming along the remaining stem.  And, the piece that was cut off can merely be stuck back into the ground and it will root as well.  I cut mine back starting in late February and early March and have only ever had one stem which did not root.