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What to do with this Cycad cone...

BS Man about Palms

By BS Man about Palms
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BS Man about Palms Grand Master

BS Man about Palms

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Well, some of you may remember this...

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

BS Man about Palms Grand Master

BS Man about Palms

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Which a month or so later went to this...

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

BS Man about Palms Grand Master

BS Man about Palms

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And as of a day or two ago became this.

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I'm worried because the lone leaf looks like this.

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

BS Man about Palms Grand Master

BS Man about Palms

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So, two questions:

1. I believe it is a male?

2. Since I don't have a female version nearby, can I just cut it off to let it get some "oomph" for another leaf?

Comments? Directions?

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

Gonzer Grand Master

Gonzer

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Looks to be getting too much heat in that corner? Poe-see-blay?

 

 

BS Man about Palms Grand Master

BS Man about Palms

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I put it there to get some heat! I suspect it doesn't get over 85F.

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

freakypalmguy Grand Master

freakypalmguy

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Possibly it's due to the energy being expended in producing the cone?

Matt in Temecula, CA

Hot and dry in the summer, cold with light frost in the winter. Halfway between the desert and ocean

Kris Grand Master

Kris

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Dear Bill :)

it looks to me as normal,since you mentioned that you have move this cycad suddenly from one area to another to ficilitate it to get more heat...so this sudden change is the result of the leaf yellowing ! this had happened to me with all my cycads,when i moved them from dark shady location to our roof top garden,where it gets heat & sunlight directly...initially their leaves dried-up..but in just few weeks time all those guys put out new leaf flush and it looks fabulous.the leafs are shinning and the cycas looks more beautiful than ever...

thanks for those hi res stills of your cycads...

lots of love,

Kris :)

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love conquers all..

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LJG Grand Master

LJG

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Like I told you in person Bill, I have always been told by those in-the-know to leave it. Cutting it off or even pulling out the cone before it expires is like pulling off a palm leaf base before it is ready. You are opening it up for fungus and other issues. But if you really want to cut it, do it t the top of the peduncle.

Also, I bet moving it from Phil's greenhouse to full sun does not help with appearance. :)

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

tropicalb Mentor

tropicalb

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Also, I bet moving it from Phil's greenhouse to full sun does not help with appearance. :)

nah...that couldn't be it...could it? :mrlooney:

Len... you need to come over this weekend.

BS Man about Palms Grand Master

BS Man about Palms

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Most Greenhouse stuff only takes a minor hit here in mild Oceanside. I think its the same as Matt's guess.

No comments on the sex yet?

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

yachtingone Grand Master

yachtingone

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Bill, It was cool checking out your extensive container palm garden the other day. You have alot of very cool palms and some cycads! I am no expert, I understand however if you cut off the cone it will stop using energy for reproduction(which it takes huge amounts of energy to produce cones). It will use that energy for leaf and root production instead! Treat the cut area with a systemic fungicide and the plant will thrive. I use captan fungicide Bill. Does any one have a female cone for you to pollinate? Bill even a cycas revoluta would be a very cool cross!!! What ever you chose to do the cycad will do fine. I believe you have E. natalensis squibe like mine. A very nice leaf form! Regards, Randy

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Jeff Searle Grand Master

Jeff Searle

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Bill,

Unless your intending on using your plant for reproduction purposes, then I would definitely cut the cone off. It's just going to drain energy off the plant that you don't need to happen.

Jeff

Searle Brothers Nursery Inc.

and The Rainforest Collection.

Southwest Ranches,Fl.

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virtualpalm

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Here are my thoughts on this:

1. The cone is definitely male.

2. Cutting the cone will not harm the plant; rather, it will reduce the plant's energy expenditure and possibly allow for a quicker leaf flush.

3. The fried leaflets look like either sun burn, cold burn, or salt burn (could also be from too much chemical fertilizers).

4. This species would perform best in a sheltered location that receives partial, filtered light.

Hope this helps.

Jody

Kansas Explorer

Kansas

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Here are my thoughts on this:

1. The cone is definitely male.

2. Cutting the cone will not harm the plant; rather, it will reduce the plant's energy expenditure and possibly allow for a quicker leaf flush.

3. The fried leaflets look like either sun burn, cold burn, or salt burn (could also be from too much chemical fertilizers).

4. This species would perform best in a sheltered location that receives partial, filtered light.

Hope this helps.

Jody

Not that Jody needs any backup, but what he said absolutly worked for me... I had a Zamia Pumila that I was wanting a new flush out of. I waited and waited and nothing. Finally it shot up a cone in late Fall. It stunted growth until this Spring when the cone continued back to growing. After it got big enough I cut it off. With in 2 weeks after cutting the cone, I got a new flush. From my personal experience, if your not going to use the cone for pollination, cut it off.

Dave-Vero Grand Master

Dave-Vero

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Kansas, nice of you to have a coontie up there. The Jeff and Jody approach definitely works for these little cycads. Small specimens straining to support a cone may in fact expire.

Fla. climate center: 100-119 days>85 F
USDA 1990 hardiness zone 9B
Current USDA hardiness zone 10a
4 km inland from Indian River; 27º N (equivalent to Brisbane)

Central Orlando's urban heat island may be warmer than us

BS Man about Palms Grand Master

BS Man about Palms

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Well, I cut the cone off about an hour ago. Thanks for all the replies. No screams yet.....

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

BS Man about Palms Grand Master

BS Man about Palms

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Also, as a reminder, the leave was already starting to "turn" when I got it. This pic was taken a day or two after I brought it home. Definately worse now, but it did throw a cone after all! :huh:

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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BS Man about Palms Grand Master

BS Man about Palms

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With a month plus to whine over his "maleocity" cut off, and the leaf too for that matter, I took this pic an hour ago. Looks good so far!!

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

Jeff Searle Grand Master

Jeff Searle

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Bill,

There would be no reason why this plant wouldn't continue to look good. There was no reason to have kept that cone on. NOW......go out and find a nice place in the yard and plant your first cycad. :)

Jeff

Searle Brothers Nursery Inc.

and The Rainforest Collection.

Southwest Ranches,Fl.

BS Man about Palms Grand Master

BS Man about Palms

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Not so fast there, Jeffry!

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

LJG Grand Master

LJG

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Bill I was talking to the famous Cycad PHD Dr Zhivago and he told me a Cycas bifida with two emerging leaves is like a human with three arms. He recommends you cut one off as other Cycas bifida's might make fun of it when they reach their teenage years. Just thought I would pass that along.

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

yachtingone Grand Master

yachtingone

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Bill, I agree with Jeff. Find a good place for that nice plant and put it in the ground! It will be so much happier in the ground. Do it! However WAIT first! Let the leaves harden up before you plant it. Take pics. Regards, Randy

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BS Man about Palms Grand Master

BS Man about Palms

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Despite Lens promise of future taunting, the bifida rolls along. :drool:

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

Jeff Searle Grand Master

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Despite Lens promise of future taunting, the bifida rolls along. :drool:

Yeah, BUT very slowly, because you refuse to plant it! Your killing me. :angry:

Jeff

Searle Brothers Nursery Inc.

and The Rainforest Collection.

Southwest Ranches,Fl.

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Dean W. Explorer

Dean W.

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How is it doing now?

Dean

Dean

BS Man about Palms Grand Master

BS Man about Palms

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How is it doing now?

Dean

Funny you should ask. :rolleyes:

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

BS Man about Palms Grand Master

BS Man about Palms

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Looks pretty durn happy to me. :drool:

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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