Phoenix rupicola

[swamptreenelly]

Do these look like rupicolas? I will share more information soon.

Thanks

Nelson

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb221/s...ixrupicola3.jpg

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb221/s...ixrupicola1.jpg

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb221/s...ixrupicola2.jpg

[swamptreenelly]

Hacienda del Pozo de Verona - (now Castle wood Country Club) The fifty room Spanish-Moorish Hacienda del Pozo de Verona designed by Oakland archetect Julia Morgan for Phoebe Apperson Hearst was located on 500 acres outside Pleasanton. It was named for the 15th century wellhead which son William Hearst had shipped from Verona, Italy. The well was used as a fountain in the large courtyard entry. Elaborate metal gates, crafted by Italian artisan Cellini led to the banquet hall overlooking the valley below and Mount Diablo to the north. The approach to the Hacienda was up a long palm lined driveway that curved around a hill beautifully landscaped by Luther Burbank. Phoebe Hearst moved into the Hacienda in 1899 and made it her home til her death in 1919. Fire destroyed it in 1969.

[osideterry]

Thanks for posting those. I've only seen a few rupicola with overhead trunk, but I can't imagine they would be anything else. You can see the family resemblance to canariensis and reclinata at that size. They must be quite old.

[DoomsDave]

I'd say they're rupies, all right.

No way they're CIDP.

Leaves too skinny, inflorescence different . . .

[Daryl]

Nelson, they look like some sort of hybrid to me. All of the P.rupicola I have seen have flatter leaves, ie the leaflets are attached to the rachis in a single plane and look flat. The palms in the photos leaves appear to come off the rachis in multiple planes like most other Phoenix spp. It is hard to tell the scale of these palms but they look too big to be rupicola. Maybe they are just really old canaries with worn old trunks? But then, I'm no expert on Phoenix...where's Kris?

Daryl

[MattyB]

I think they look like a hybrid also. I've seen a whole group that looked just like those planted near Paradise Valley Hospital here in East San Diego. They don't quite have the linear leaflets that would indicate a true P. rupicola but they're noticeably skinnier then P. canariensis. Cool plants whatever they are.

I just remembered there's a hybrid phoenix near La Mesa Blvd. and Spring Street behind the post office in La Mesa, CA that looks like your Phoenix too. The whole street is planted with P. canariensis and this one just happened to be a hybrid.

[malcthomas]

Nelson.

I can't make out the colour of the seed....do you know?