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Just a Pretty Palm

Dypsisdean

By Dypsisdean
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Dypsisdean Grand Master

Dypsisdean

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I just got through cleaning up this Areca vestiaria and wondered why I let it go so long covering up it's trunks. These things are so varied, all six I have are different, and are still changing as they mature. This one started more orange and is turning red. And it turned into one of those that sucker like crazy.

Anyway I just had to take a pic or two to share.

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Kona, on The Big Island
Hawaii - Land of Volcanoes

bgl Grand Master

bgl

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Dean,

That color is about as good as it gets! :)

Bo-Göran

Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

Kris Grand Master

Kris

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Dear Dean :)

lovely palm...and i thought only the lipsticks had colour ! certainly this one has to be collected,hope some day these will be avaliable in our indian market well grown ones...And Dean iam just worshipping those beauties...a9d6cb35.gif

thanks for those lovely stills,

lots of love,

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love conquers all..

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Walter John Grand Master

Walter John

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Certainly been some trimming going on there, great pic Dean. I nearly bought a few of these today in tube size for the future. Starting another potted collection again.

Did this one ever have maroon leaves ?

Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

Dypsisdean Grand Master

Dypsisdean

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Certainly been some trimming going on there, great pic Dean. I nearly bought a few of these today in tube size for the future. Starting another potted collection again.

Did this one ever have maroon leaves ?

Wal,

As juveniles there seems to be an orange version with a green new leaf, a very red version with the maroon leaf, and one (or range) of ones in between. This was one of the in betweens, with some color to the new leaf, but not the dark maroon.

Then there seems to be a range from single trunk to profusely suckering. And it seems to me as if the singles and barely suckering are the oranger ones.

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Kona, on The Big Island
Hawaii - Land of Volcanoes

PalmGuyWC Grand Master

PalmGuyWC

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Wow!

That color is spectacular. I've heard the lower altitude ones tend to be orange, while the higher altitude ones are more red.

Dick

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Richard Douglas

fiji jim Veteran

fiji jim

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SPECTACULAR !!!!!!!!

Looks like it is in partial shade.

How much sun does it get?

Jim

Located on Vanua Levu near Savusavu (16degrees South) Elevation from sealevel to 30meters with average annual rainfall of 2800mm (110in) with temperature from 18 to 34C (65 to 92F).

Palm Guy Mentor

Palm Guy

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Dean, what an awesome palm. I love the color. It rivals C. renda for that red colouration. Well done.

Michael Ferreira

Bermuda-Humid(77% ave), Subtropical Zone 11, no frost

Warm Season: (May-November): Max/Min 81F/73F

Cool Season: (Dec-Apr): Max/Min 70F/62F

Record High: 94F

Record Low: 43F

Rain: 55 inches per year with no dry/wet season

bgl Grand Master

bgl

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The different "versions" are really all one and the same. From one single seedbatch from a multi trunked so called maroon A. vestiaria I've had offspring that is:

single trunked maroon

double trunked maroon

multi trunked maroon

single trunked orange (with new frond always opening up green)

double trunked orange ( '' )

multi trunked orange ( '' )

The maroon color (on the new frond) will be much more dramatic and will stay maroon for a VERY long time if the plant is kept in partial shade. The more it's exposed to sun, the quicker the maroon will fade away.

Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

Palm Guy Mentor

Palm Guy

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I agree with Bo. A few months back I purchased the regular orange A. Vestiaria and I have found that 6 of them have a maroonish tinge to their leaves combined with a reddish crownshaft. The other 4 or 5 have green coloured new leaves. So even though I purchased the regular variety, it seems as though I have more of the maroon variety. Whether they will be clumpers or single trunked still remains to be seen as they are all one-to- two-leafed seedlings.

Michael Ferreira

Bermuda-Humid(77% ave), Subtropical Zone 11, no frost

Warm Season: (May-November): Max/Min 81F/73F

Cool Season: (Dec-Apr): Max/Min 70F/62F

Record High: 94F

Record Low: 43F

Rain: 55 inches per year with no dry/wet season

Dypsisdean Grand Master

Dypsisdean

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SPECTACULAR !!!!!!!!

Looks like it is in partial shade.

How much sun does it get?

Jim

Jim,

This particular palm is my only A. vestiaria that is in full sun. But that is very misleading, as my full sun is 95% overcast by lunchtime, after a sunny morning. If you have a choice, partial shade would be preferred, especially when young.

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Kona, on The Big Island
Hawaii - Land of Volcanoes

tjwalters Veteran

tjwalters

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Awesome! With that kind of color, who needs C. renda? :) (Well, okay...I'd take one of each.)

Has anyone noticed any variation in hardiness (cold or otherwise) that corresponds to coloring? I started some seeds a few years ago and the only one I have left is mostly green. I have another batch of the "maroon leaved" variety and I'm still waiting to see the first sign of germination.

Tom

Bowie, Maryland, USA - USDA z7a
hardiestpalms.com

ariscott Grand Master

ariscott

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This particular palm is my only A. vestiaria that is in full sun. But that is very misleading, as my full sun is 95% overcast by lunchtime, after a sunny morning. If you have a choice, partial shade would be preferred, especially when young.

Lucky you.... My full sun is FULL SUN all day every day, unless it is the monsoon season, then... we won't see the sun for 3 weeks straight at the time... Very harsh on plants. The palms that would do well in full sun in Cairns or North Queensland not necessarily be able to handle full sun here. I learnt it the hard way... but I got it down pat now. Lost a bit earlier :(

Regards, Ari :)

Ari & Scott

Darwin, NT, Australia

-12°32'53" 131°10'20"

Gileno Machado Grand Master

Gileno Machado

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Marvelous palm.

Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers

LJG Grand Master

LJG

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Dean, when my neighbor with over 40 years palm experience calls this one of his top three most beautiful palms in all the world, you know it is good!

I actually bought a single trunk one and a clumping maroon leaf from Jeff. Simply to have as pot plants for 8 months out of the year. They are too nice a palm to not have - even in SoCal.

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

Kris Grand Master

Kris

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The different "versions" are really all one and the same. From one single seedbatch from a multi trunked so called maroon A. vestiaria I've had offspring that is:

single trunked maroon

double trunked maroon

multi trunked maroon

single trunked orange (with new frond always opening up green)

double trunked orange ( '' )

multi trunked orange ( '' )

The maroon color (on the new frond) will be much more dramatic and will stay maroon for a VERY long time if the plant is kept in partial shade. The more it's exposed to sun, the quicker the maroon will fade away.

Dear Bo Goran :)

that's a detailed report... :)

thanks & love,

Kris :)

love conquers all..

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MattyB Grand Master

MattyB

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These guys give me trouble, even in the greenhouse.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Jeff Searle Grand Master

Jeff Searle

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Dean,

I agree, these are very beautiful palms. I remember when I got my first ones many years ago, and when everyone went nuts over them. Their still very popular at the sales.

Jeff

Searle Brothers Nursery Inc.

and The Rainforest Collection.

Southwest Ranches,Fl.

calyptrocalyx&licuala freck Mentor

calyptrocalyx&licuala freck

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Hi Dean,

What a health and beautiful

specimen man.

Cheers Mikey :D

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M.H.Edwards

"Living in the Tropic's

And loving it".............. smilie.gif

The Palm Nut Mentor

The Palm Nut

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Hi Dean, great looking palms. How old would you say these are from seedling stage? My experience is that these are very slow growers even taking into account my climate conditions.

Cheers

Mike

Port Macquarie NSW Australia

Warm temperate to subtropical

Record low of -2C at airport 2006

Pushing the limit of palm survivabilities

Wai`anae Steve Veteran

Wai`anae Steve

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No fare Dean, cutting away all that green just to SHOW OFF your red. :drool:

Just kidding of course. Mine is not as big or as red, but it does keep the dark maroon leaf for a long time.

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Wai`anae Steve-------www.waianaecrider.com
Living in Paradise, Leeward O`ahu, Hawai`i, USA
Temperature range yearly from say 95 to 62 degrees F
Only 3 hurricanes in the past 51 years and no damage. No floods where I am, No tornados, No earthquakes
No moles, squirrels, chipmunks, deer, etc. Just the neighbors "wild" chickens

Dypsisdean Grand Master

Dypsisdean

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Hi Dean, great looking palms. How old would you say these are from seedling stage? My experience is that these are very slow growers even taking into account my climate conditions.

Cheers

Mike

Mike,

That palm was a fair sized 15 Gal (sorry don't now the comparable Aussie size) 4 years ago. I don't know how fast they grow from seed to a 15, but from that size on they start putting on trunk fairly quickly. Some of my others from the same batch have a meter of trunk already.

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Kona, on The Big Island
Hawaii - Land of Volcanoes

Daryl Grand Master

Daryl

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What a stunner! One of my favourite species.

Daryl

Gold Coast, Queensland Latitude 28S. Mild, Humid Subtropical climate. Rainfall - not consistent enough!

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