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Dictyosperma album

Walter John

By Walter John
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Walter John Grand Master

Walter John

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Another beautiful new red leaf has recently opened on my Dictyosperma album var "rubrum" palm so I thought I best capture what I can of it's current appearances to share with you all.

I would really LOVE to see similar photos of other varieties of the Dictyosperma, such as "conjugatum ", "aureum", "furcatum" and there's another one isn't there ?

These photos were taken 30 minutes ago on this day, Sep 20, 2006, for the record.

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Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

Walter John Grand Master

Walter John

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Some more

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Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

Exotic Life Grand Master

Exotic Life

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Very nice palm, and pics ... Do you can tell me what the lowest tempeture he can got ? Maybe i can grow it here in a container ...

Southwest

Walter John Grand Master

Walter John

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(Exotic Life @ Sep. 20 2006,17:34)

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Very nice palm, and pics ... Do you can tell me what the lowest tempeture he can got ? Maybe i can grow it here in a container ...

Probably down to 5c once or twice. Likes it hot.

Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

epicure3 Grand Master

epicure3

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Wal, what's that red and green leaved shrub that's in the pictures?

Coastal San Diego, California

Z10b

Dry summer subtropical/Mediterranean

warm summer/mild winter

Kris Grand Master

Kris

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Dear Wal  :)

very nice pictures of palm new leaf sprouting,

and the plants around those palm is also very

nice & colourful.

Love,

Kris.

love conquers all..

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Matt in SD Veteran

Matt in SD

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Nice palm Wal.  I'm curious whether it threw red fronds when it was young (i.e. pre-trunking), if you know.  I have a D album 'rubrum that has tons of red in the petiole, and on the leaf margins and veins, but the new leaves are green, at least so far.  But it's still small, the leaves are about 3 1/2 feet long now.

Matt

San Diego

0.6 Acres of a south facing, gently sloped dirt pile, soon to be impenetrable jungle

East of Mount Soledad, in the biggest cold sink in San Diego County.

Zone 10a (I hope), Sunset 24

Neofolis Veteran

Neofolis

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Dictosperma album is a stunning palm, even without a red leaf, which makes the red leaf even more of a treat.  It was one of my favourites at Kew.

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Corey Lucas-Divers

Dorset, UK

Ave Jul High 72F/22C (91F/33C Max)

Ave Jul Low 52F/11C (45F/7C Min)

Ave Jan High 46F/8C (59F/15C Max)

Ave Jan Low 34F/1C (21F/-6C Min)

Ave Rain 736mm pa

DoomsDave Grand Master

DoomsDave

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Wal:

I've tortured- I mean grown about a dozen of these and I've never seen one with a red leaf like that.

Very nice!

Hmm. Gonna dig through my dank, dusty archives and see if I can find a pic of furcatum . . . .

dave

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Joe palma Mentor

Joe palma

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Cool pics Wal. First I have seen of a rubrum's new red leaf. Thanks

Another neat thing about this palm (at least the regular D. album, not sure about the rubrum) is the rabbit-ear seedling has a red/pinkish color around the edge of the leaflets. Very cool looking. I'll try to post pic later.

Joe Dombrowski

Discovery Island Palms Nursery

San Marcos, CA

"grow my little palm tree, grow!"

deezpalms Grand Master

deezpalms

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very nice Wal!

Daveo ~ I've got 2 in 5 gal.'s and they both have very nice red new fronds and pink to red edges on the leaves. A very colorful palm!!

Dave Hughson

Carlsbad, Ca

1 mile from ocean

Zone 10b

Palm freaks are good peeps!!!!!

SubTropicRay Grand Master

SubTropicRay

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Robbin,

D. album can tolerate down to freezing (0C) for short durations with minimal damage.  The heat definitely makes them grow quickly.

Ray

Tampa, Interbay Peninsula, Florida, USA

subtropical USDA Zone 10A

Bokeelia, Pine Island, Florida, USA

subtropical USDA Zone 10B

Walter John Grand Master

Walter John

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(epicure3 @ Sep. 21 2006,01:24)

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Wal, what's that red and green leaved shrub that's in the pictures?

Cape Plum. An Aussie native. Forgotten the botanical name.

Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

DoomsDave Grand Master

DoomsDave

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(deezpalms @ Sep. 20 2006,14:17)

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very nice Wal!

Daveo ~ I've got 2 in 5 gal.'s and they both have very nice red new fronds and pink to red edges on the leaves. A very colorful palm!!

Well, lucky [expletive] you!

Being near the coast makes all the difference.

dave

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Exotic Life Grand Master

Exotic Life

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(Ray, Tampa @ Sep. 20 2006,15:56)

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Robbin,

D. album can tolerate down to freezing (0C) for short durations with minimal damage.  The heat definitely makes them grow quickly.

Ray

Hi,

Ok, But he can't stand the hole winter in a greenhouse that i keep it warm around the 5-10C/ 41-50F ?? Summer heat is not the problem ... I have a really hot place here in the garden ... when it's 20C/68F it's at that place more then 25C/77F, and when it summer that place can be ver very hot ... it's only the winter ...

Greetz robbin

Southwest

Charles P. Newbie

Charles P.

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My D. Album does well, but has to be in a greenhouse...

N E one have the rarer forms?...  Lets see pics....

Caribbean Palms Proficient

Caribbean Palms

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I have D. album var. furfuracea growing near the 'regular' D. album/rubrum and both went through 28 F degrees this past winter and only the 'regular' showed any leaf damage.

It appears to me that depending on the amount of red coloration in the fronds and petioles, the more sensitive to cold or frost.  more red = more cold sensitive.

Has anyone else noticed this??

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Mike Harris

Caribbean Palms Nursery

Loxahatchee, Florida USA

Joe palma Mentor

Joe palma

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Mike,

Those are some really nice looking palms! Very healthy.

Hope my end up looking that good. Probably not, as I'm sure they will grow better for you in FL than me here in South CA. Glad you posted the picture.

Don't know much about the "cold sensitivity" verses "red color" issue. Very interesting though.

Wonder if that is the same for red Howea forsteriana?

Joe Dombrowski

Discovery Island Palms Nursery

San Marcos, CA

"grow my little palm tree, grow!"

Tyrone Grand Master

Tyrone

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(Exotic Life @ Sep. 21 2006,12:38)

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(Ray @ Tampa,Sep. 20 2006,15:56)

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Robbin,

D. album can tolerate down to freezing (0C) for short durations with minimal damage.  The heat definitely makes them grow quickly.

Ray

Hi,

Ok, But he can't stand the hole winter in a greenhouse that i keep it warm around the 5-10C/ 41-50F ?? Summer heat is not the problem ... I have a really hot place here in the garden ... when it's 20C/68F it's at that place more then 25C/77F, and when it summer that place can be ver very hot ... it's only the winter ...

Greetz robbin

Robbin,

5-10C as a max in winter is too cold for this one. In the greenhouse you would want those temps as minimums in winter with max's around 20C for a healthy plant in winter. During summer if you could average around 28-32C or higher with humidity and nights around 16-26C min's you would have a healthy plant. They don't like long cold spells below 15C maximums. They'll just stop and shrivel up with those temps. Sorry.  :(

regards

Tyrone

Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

Walter John Grand Master

Walter John

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How's this for a pic, the Princess slices across the Veitchia joannis.

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Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

The Palm Nut Mentor

The Palm Nut

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These are difficult to grow outside the tropics, subtropical areas and even warm temperate, yes they will grow but like good wine it doesnt take much to spoil them to die. A common species, but requirers some skill to keeping them alive south 30 lat S.

Mike

Port Macquarie NSW Australia

Warm temperate to subtropical

Record low of -2C at airport 2006

Pushing the limit of palm survivabilities

Tyrone Grand Master

Tyrone

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There's a few good ones around Perth, always growing in well lit, hot areas, generally with paving or rocks nearby. I've got one growing here and its OK. Not as fast as in the tropics of course.

regards

Tyrone

Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

Kamipalms Proficient

Kamipalms

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I'd agree with Tyrone.  I have a regular Dictyosperma album about 4 foot tall which has bee in the garden for the past 5 years.  It receives full sun from 9am to 3pm  ( note to self... plant the next one in all day sun..)

Winter leaves a few spots on the leaves but never enough to cause any un-recoverable damage.

Min temps for me would be around 5C and generally wet.

Jason.

Made the move to Mandurah - West Aust

Kamipalms,
Growing for the future


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