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How to plant groups of 3

newtothis

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newtothis Rising Star

newtothis

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I am new owner of 3 d.pembana seedlings I'm going to put together in a 5g pot until they are ready for the ground. If you want them to bow away from each other do you plant them at an angle or straight up? Should you space them in a triangle or but them next to each other at seedling age.

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Jeff Searle Grand Master

Jeff Searle

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When planting three seedlings, plant them straight up. If not, their going to grow back towards the light sooner or later and straighten themselves back up.

As far as where to place them, at a seedling stage I prefer to space them out some.

Jeff

Searle Brothers Nursery Inc.

and The Rainforest Collection.

Southwest Ranches,Fl.

Walter John Grand Master

Walter John

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Hi Scott, Dypsis pembana can get a big base so you don't need to butt theit butts so to speak. In fact you don't need to put them in the same pot. The least amount of transplanting the better chance your plants will have of survival and good health. Plant straight up, no angle as Jeff says, about 2 feet apart, you'll get your bow look ala coconut palm look, no worries.

Good luck, these guys have the potential to be the new wave canopy palm.

Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

bgl Grand Master

bgl

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I've done this with a number of different species, including Veitchias, Clinostigmas and even Roystoneas. Some will develop a nice curve, while others will simply lean out and away (Clinostigma is one that will do that). I have found that the closer you plant them, the greater your chances for the curving effect. With a palm like D. pembana that doesn't have a very thick trunk I'd plant them no more than 6 inches apart. Yes, the bases will eventually touch, but there's pretty much a 100% guarantee that they will curve out and away from each other.

Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

Jeff in St Pete Grand Master

Jeff in St Pete

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I'm trying groups of 3 seedlings in the same pot. I plant them in a triangular pattern about 5-6 inches apart (sometimes closer). It will be interesting to see how 3 Kentiopsis magnifica, Burretiokentia hapala. Dictyosperma album or Chamaedorea plumosa will look in a few years (well, the K magnifica in 10 years!) I agree that the closer you plant them together, the more chance of a nice curved look.

Formerly Jeff in Costa Rica
 

newtothis Rising Star

newtothis

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Excellent thank you all for the advice!

glbower Collaborator

glbower

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Here's what Wal is talking about. This D. pembana went in the ground as a 1 gallon just 2 years and 2 months ago. Butting is not a problem!

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Punta Gorda, Fla.

26 53 N 82 02 W

on a large saltwater canal basin 1/2 mile from beautiful Charlotte Harbor 10A/10B microclimate (I hope)

bgl Grand Master

bgl

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Bill,

I don't know, but if you're going to find out make sure you plant them as close to each other as possible. I have a few that are planted about 2 ft apart, and they're growing straight up. No curving whatsoever.

Bo-Göran

Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

osideterry Grand Master

osideterry

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When I planted my 3 Dypsis leptocheilos I put them 3 ft apart. I've never seen teddies curve, and the leaves get so big. (I know I know, the back one is too close to the house)

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Zone 9b/10a, Sunset Zone 22

7 miles inland. Elevation 120ft (37m)

Average annual low temp: 30F (-1C)

Average annual rainfall: 8" (20cm)

Mark_NoVA Proficient

Mark_NoVA

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Are those Dypsis 'Orange Crush' solitary trunking and if so have you tried planting them close together?

I've done this with a number of different species, including Veitchias, Clinostigmas and even Roystoneas. Some will develop a nice curve, while others will simply lean out and away (Clinostigma is one that will do that). I have found that the closer you plant them, the greater your chances for the curving effect. With a palm like D. pembana that doesn't have a very thick trunk I'd plant them no more than 6 inches apart. Yes, the bases will eventually touch, but there's pretty much a 100% guarantee that they will curve out and away from each other.

zone 7a (Avg. max low temp 0 to 5 F, -18 to -15 C), hot humid summers

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Walter John Grand Master

Walter John

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Did I say two feet ? make that one instead and it's a deal.

Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

bgl Grand Master

bgl

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Wal, being flexible is always a great approach! :)

And Mark, all the Orange crush that I have that are now trunking were planted as singles. However, a few years ago I also planted some smaller ones (from 1G pots) as doubles. These are JUST NOW beginning to form trunk, so I don't know exactly how they're going to grow. They were planted inches apart.

Bo-Göran

Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

newtothis Rising Star

newtothis

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I'm so jealous of all of you that have been at this hobby for years and I have to start with seedlings...

ariscott Grand Master

ariscott

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Hey... everyone has to start somewhere.... :winkie:

Regards, Ari :)

Ari & Scott

Darwin, NT, Australia

-12°32'53" 131°10'20"

Mark_NoVA Proficient

Mark_NoVA

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Thanks, Bo-Göran. Maybe I can just leave a pot of these little guys as they are, then!

Wal, being flexible is always a great approach! :)

And Mark, all the Orange crush that I have that are now trunking were planted as singles. However, a few years ago I also planted some smaller ones (from 1G pots) as doubles. These are JUST NOW beginning to form trunk, so I don't know exactly how they're going to grow. They were planted inches apart.

Bo-Göran

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zone 7a (Avg. max low temp 0 to 5 F, -18 to -15 C), hot humid summers

Avgs___Jan__Feb__Mar__Apr__May__Jun__Jul__Aug__Sep__Oct__Nov__Dec

High___44___49___58___69___78___85___89___87___81___70___59___48

Low____24___26___33___42___52___61___66___65___58___45___36___28

Precip_3.1__2.7__3.6__3.0__4.0__3.6__3.6__3.6__3.8__3.3__3.2__3.1

Snow___8.1__6.2__3.4__0.4__0____0____0____0____0____0.1__0.8__2.2

Walter John Grand Master

Walter John

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I'm so jealous of all of you that have been at this hobby for years and I have to start with seedlings...

You are so wrong mate, I'm jealous of you, you are in your 30s right ? If I had of started out in my 30s, my palms would be 20 years old today, imagine the sizes I'd have. My bamboos too would be enormous, I'd have my own BG :)

No mister "newtothis", I am jealous of you. Tip: Plant small and study them as they grow, you'll lose some here and there, now and then, you'll get over that eventually.

Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

osideterry Grand Master

osideterry

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We are departing from planting in 3s, but here is my philosophy, for what it's worth:

1 - Get a few 15 gallon common palms. King, Caryota, Royal, Kentia, Butia, Livistona, Foxtail, Bismarckia, etc. $50-100 each. "Do It!".

2 - Start hording 5 gallon palms. They have made it past all the damping-off scares and are ready to go in the ground right now. Usually run $30-50 and they will be 15 gallon size in 1-2 years.

3 - Oversized liners and 1 gallons. Hit the palm nursery sales, and find the palms that really should have been potted up. $15-25. The nursery guys might hate you for a moment, but hey, they are moving inventory and gaining a repeat customer. Immediately put in a 5 gallon pot, and wait a year to plant.

4 - My next step. Finish off my hybrid shadehouse/greenhouse, then make the Floribunda order. Large 1-gallon palms for $6.50. Baby a couple years before planting.

Hopefully I end up with layers of palms, all at interesting stages of growth.

Zone 9b/10a, Sunset Zone 22

7 miles inland. Elevation 120ft (37m)

Average annual low temp: 30F (-1C)

Average annual rainfall: 8" (20cm)

newtothis Rising Star

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Now this is what I'm talkin 'bout! My 3 Myola Kings came today labeled "3 Myola + Bonus"!! So in all I have 5 seedlings!

I potted them together so I will have a group of 5

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But I'm very concerned. I want them to gracefully arch away from each other. But what if the soil settles and the little guys grow across each other? Am I being over paranoid and they will grow straight?

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Is 5 too many for a grouping? Should I do 2 and 3???

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