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Loot for the day-- some pelagodoxa henryanas (will plant these soon), arenga hookeriana ( i found another that had the short and stumpy growth habit) but the one I need help with is the Variegated Plumeria.

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Gene

Manila, Philippines

53 feet above sea level - inland

Hot and dry in summer, humid and sticky monsoon season, perfect weather Christmas time

http://freakofnaturezzz.blogspot.com/

Posted

Leaves are dominantly white with a lot of green speckling. I am wondeting how much sun this can take?

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Gene

Manila, Philippines

53 feet above sea level - inland

Hot and dry in summer, humid and sticky monsoon season, perfect weather Christmas time

http://freakofnaturezzz.blogspot.com/

Posted

THis variety comes from Thailand and the top/variegated part was grafted to a hardier variety of plumeria's trunk/root system.

Any Thai forum member outthere who can tell me what to expect ?

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Gene

Manila, Philippines

53 feet above sea level - inland

Hot and dry in summer, humid and sticky monsoon season, perfect weather Christmas time

http://freakofnaturezzz.blogspot.com/

Posted

THese are pretty recent introductions over here so all of the plants I've seen are basically just a single branch with roots. I wonder at what stage this will begin to branch off?

Where should I position this in the garden?

HELP :huh:

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Gene

Manila, Philippines

53 feet above sea level - inland

Hot and dry in summer, humid and sticky monsoon season, perfect weather Christmas time

http://freakofnaturezzz.blogspot.com/

Posted

hhmmmm

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

Posted

Dear Gene :)

lovely plumeria's and your doubts & question on these varigated onces could be answered by Komikrit.

i think his PM is now Kom Thai Palm

And he has lots of other verigated Plumeria's too_talk to him

love,

Kris :)

love conquers all..

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Posted

Gene, you always find the craziest stuff. :)

How big is your garden? It has to be 100 acres to hold all your loot.

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

Posted

Those leaves are really nice! Do you know if the flowers are the same as the non variegated types or are they a bit different?

Tim

Tim

Hilo, Hawaii

Posted

I don't think they require any different treatment to 'normal' frangipani. But I will ask a friend who has hundred of these to confirm. Daryl should be able to answer as well, but he is still away to Rockhampton, I think. Unfortunately, usually the flowers aren't that spectactular because they breed them for the variegation. Do you have rust over there, Gene? Make sure you spray for rust because there is nothing worse than variegated frangipani with rust. They look even worse than 'normal' frangipani with rust.

BTW, Scott iss VERY jealous. I have never seen one here...

Regards, Ari :)

Ari & Scott

Darwin, NT, Australia

-12°32'53" 131°10'20"

Posted

Plumeria generally only branch after they bloom, so you want ti get it to bloom ASAP so that you don;t end up with a big tall single trunk tree. The exception to that rule is Plumeria pudica, commonly called "Bridal Bouquet" which will branch without blooming.

"You can't see California without Marlon Brando's eyes"---SliPknot

 

Posted
Gene, you always find the craziest stuff. :)

How big is your garden? It has to be 100 acres to hold all your loot.

Len - its just a little less than a hectare in the middle of the city.

I do get a lot of stuff but note that they are always tiny-- I can't affort the full grown specimens :lol:

Gene

Manila, Philippines

53 feet above sea level - inland

Hot and dry in summer, humid and sticky monsoon season, perfect weather Christmas time

http://freakofnaturezzz.blogspot.com/

Posted
Those leaves are really nice! Do you know if the flowers are the same as the non variegated types or are they a bit different?

Tim

Tim- these are still new over here and I havn't seen any with flowers yet.

Gene

Manila, Philippines

53 feet above sea level - inland

Hot and dry in summer, humid and sticky monsoon season, perfect weather Christmas time

http://freakofnaturezzz.blogspot.com/

Posted

Hey Gene,

I have a decent collection of Variegated plants, As with any variegated plant it is pretty much the same as the plain green version just a mutation that shows variegation - Therefor they have the same growing conditions! However, variegated plantsIN GENERAL do better if they are not in the full scorching sun, as the white parts tend to burn easily Plumerias love full sun, and you could grow the variegated specimens in full sun. However, I would highly suggest you grow it in a spot that gets morning sun instead of the scorching afternoon sun. a little shade from a neighboring tree in the afternoon would be great!!

Keep in mind if your plant was grown in a shade house or shady conditions, putting it in full sun will shock and burn it. So I suggest you slowly acclimate it and be on the safe side!

Kindest Regards,

-Jc

Miami, Florida

Posted

Thanks Juan Carlos.

That was my first instinct too. I really have to study where to place this because the summer sun over here is very very unforgiving.

Gene

Manila, Philippines

53 feet above sea level - inland

Hot and dry in summer, humid and sticky monsoon season, perfect weather Christmas time

http://freakofnaturezzz.blogspot.com/

Posted

No prolemo! :)

While you think of the perfect spot for it, you could slowly acclimate it to more light. Take it slow though, the leaves are beautiful - you don't want them burnt to a crisp lol!!

Happy Growing!!

-Jc

Miami, Florida

Posted

Found this pic on the internet:

"Sunspot" Variegated Plumeria

Quite rare to see a variegated plumeria with beautiful inflorescence...

From my understanding, the Thai growers introduced a "harmless" virus to the plumerias to induce the variegation. They did the same thing to get the "color breaks" in the flowers. The plumerias go for A LOT MORE money with this attribute. I, myself do not find the "color break" plumies attractive, but the variegated ones are growing on me...

Huntington Beach, CA

USDA Zone 10a/10b

Sunset Zone 24

Posted

Very nice that "Sunspot", beautiful flowers!

I'll soon finally have a variegated Plumeria pudica, which I have been wanting for a long time and I am very excited to finally get the chance to grow it!! I'll post some pics when I get it.

Happy Growing!

-Jc

Miami, Florida

  • 6 months later...
Posted

Update on this Variegated Plumeria - its gone through the normal stages of shedding all its leaves then producing new ones.

But the new leaves are noticably less variegated than when I bought them. Hmmmm

I am wondering if the variegation will progressively lessen as the plant matures. This is a relatively new cultivar from Thailand and I have not seen any mature examples so i don't really know what to expect from it.

Anyone out there have any experience with this plant?

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Gene

Manila, Philippines

53 feet above sea level - inland

Hot and dry in summer, humid and sticky monsoon season, perfect weather Christmas time

http://freakofnaturezzz.blogspot.com/

  • 2 weeks later...
Posted
Loot for the day-- some pelagodoxa henryanas (will plant these soon), arenga hookeriana ( i found another that had the short and stumpy growth habit) but the one I need help with is the Variegated Plumeria.

Gene,

There is an article on Plumeria rust in yesterday's Philippine Garden section of the Philippine Star. You might find some info there to help you.

George Yao

Metro-Manila

Philippines

Posted

The paperboy didn't come yesterday. I'll check today.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Posted

The variegation was induced by infecting the plumeria with a virus. Who knows how long the variegation will last.

Huntington Beach, CA

USDA Zone 10a/10b

Sunset Zone 24

Posted

I was wondering about it being a virus induced variegation. I have bought several types of variegated plants that I have been told were virus induced and they have the simillar variegation pattern - mostly white with small green speckling. The variegation eventually become unstable.

I'll try to get a picture of a variegated Philodendron Gigas that did this.

Gene

Manila, Philippines

53 feet above sea level - inland

Hot and dry in summer, humid and sticky monsoon season, perfect weather Christmas time

http://freakofnaturezzz.blogspot.com/

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