Livistona rotundifolia

[Tampa Scott]

Purchased a few years ago for L.rotundifolia what do you think ? It is growing in a shady situation.

[TikiRick]

Scott,

It is difficult without something for scale and a few more pictures.

Any photos up close of the petioles?

Mine looks similiar to yours, but more photos would be helpful.

[Jeff in St Pete]

Scott, it's hard to tell from the pic, but it certainly looks like a lot of the small L rotundifolia growing around here. I found out one thing, they prefer full sun, even when small. A while back I planted a row of them along the driveway in shade and at the same time a hotel planted a row of them along the main road in full sun. Their plants are now triple the size of mine.

[paulgila]

leaf shape looks very similiar to the ones i've seen.

[surferjr]

Purchased a few years ago for L.rotundifolia what do you think ? It is growing in a shady situation.

Not the same husk that I'm use too! These are beauties!!!!!

Here's a pic of a nice one!

On my smaller ones the older leafs stems are green too as these are:hmm:

[Kris]

Here is our's growing in shade...

Love,

Kris

[Gtlevine]

One of the prettiest of all Livistona. I have one that I have not planted yet, they are borderline in So Cal so I am waiting for it to get bigger. What temps does yours see in Tampa in the winter?

Gary

[Tampa Scott]

One of the prettiest of all Livistona. I have one that I have not planted yet, they are borderline in So Cal so I am waiting for it to get bigger. What temps does yours see in Tampa in the winter?

Gary

Gary, It took a bad hit this last winter (27f low with no frost), every leaf in above picture is new this year. The palm was 50% damaged last winter. Here is a picture (not a good one) taken after the freeze.

[surferjr]

One of the prettiest of all Livistona. I have one that I have not planted yet, they are borderline in So Cal so I am waiting for it to get bigger. What temps does yours see in Tampa in the winter?

Gary

Gary,

I think these are favorable to temps like Coconuts

I'm planting mine next to the blacktop! ...and not holding my breath.

[Peter]

Is L. robinsoniana a different species, or just a synonym for rotundifolia? I thought I heard that robinsoniana was more cold hardy(assuming it's a different sp.)??

[merrill]

Hi,, Peter:

Livistona robinsoniana and L. rotundifolia are distinct in the Kew List, and can be distinguished by the palm devotee's eye. What is the fruit color of rotundifolia?

merrill

[paulgila]

from the pic in post 5 they are red.

[edbrown_III]

The Livistona I see alot in the Philippines is L. robertsoniania --- if memory serves me it has orange fruit.

Best regardss

Ed

[Tala]

If I remember correctly (and thats getting to be a bigger & bigger if lately) Dowe's eventual mono will sink robinsoniana into rotundifolia. Anyone demonstrate any diff.'s betwext the two?

[edbrown_III]

Dave, My memory didnt serve me right--- L. rotundifolia is the plant I saw in Luzon with the bright read berries. Most of these are very tall trees --- I took these pictures several years ago with an old Canon and older zoom lense. Photos arent the best --- but still a beautiful tree.

Surfr THe close up of the fruit is very beautiful good photo , I remember the striking fruit -- very from a distance.

I tried to grow these many years ago. I think in late 80's I got some seed bank seeds and had them up to small size but a moderate 25 F frost killed them --- I started chasing other Livstonias after that but certainly a beautiful tree.

Best regards,

Ed

[edbrown_III]

2nd photo

[edbrown_III]

2nd photo

[Tala]

now that I'm no longer influenced by Stolys & cranberry juice I do believe they are not to be combined; perhaps that was his thinking originally (coulda swore I heard this "somewhere"), but now sure it was just combining the several var.'s of rotund. into one species. Will admit I don't see enough of either sps to mark anythin specific, both are a bit too tender for here. If anyone makes it over to Gaylord Palms resort near Disney they installed a dozen or so mature specimens of rotund. in one of the atriums as interiorscape. The boldly ringed stems are particularly eye-catching.

[paulgila]

they are really amazing palms.heres one in sanur beach,bali.

local name is "palem sadeng." hope i spelled that correctly.there are a few on the board who could tell...

[edbrown_III]

I think the red fruit is L. rotundifolia and the orange fruit is L. robertsoniani. I believe that is the difference between them.

[Tala]

Ed, perhaps it was Liv. merrillii???

there is/was some var. of rotundifolia, one named after the Isl (Luzon), the other two var.'s I'm not familiar with at all. The robinsoniana palm is on Pollilo Isl. I think. Odd location for islands, this the deep part of the world, think Mariana Trench.

Would like to try some of the other sou. Pacific species, endaunesis I think has recently come available, also there is tiny exigua (never see this one), papuana, tahanensis, there are a few others; mebbe I should write to Toby for some of these

[Tampa Scott]

Here is a picture showing the thorns.

[edbrown_III]

Ed, perhaps it was Liv. merrillii???

there is/was some var. of rotundifolia, one named after the Isl (Luzon), the other two var.'s I'm not familiar with at all. The robinsoniana palm is on Pollilo Isl. I think. Odd location for islands, this the deep part of the world, think Mariana Trench.

Would like to try some of the other sou. Pacific species, endaunesis I think has recently come available, also there is tiny exigua (never see this one), papuana, tahanensis, there are a few others; mebbe I should write to Toby for some of these

Dave,

The fruit was very red/vermillion like the photo I believe the location ( Luzon PI) makes it L. rotundifolia--- I also remember a orange fruited one on the road to Bagio, I think this is L. robertsoniani , No references to back this up other than David Jones description in Palms of Australia and Palmeras Brasileros --- I rec kon I should see if it is treated in the Rod Monograph but I think this is just Australia species.

This is the criteria they use for differentiating them. I didnt think much about it at the time 2004 but remember both colors of fruit and thought I would look it up later but forgot about it until now.

Best regards,

Ed

[Tala]

yes Rodd's work is Aussie sps. only - I just find it odd that different species can be found so close together on what should be isolated territory. Would be nice if someone could provide some recent habitat photos or descripts. On a somewhat related subject I heard there is no remaining "habitat" for saribus anymore, at least nothing pristine.