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whats it worth: Cycas Debaoensis

Scott Cohen

By Scott Cohen
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Hey guys,

I have a Cycas Debaoensis thats been in my collection for several years now,

it has 2 leaves the largest of which is at least 6ft tall, and guessing the caudex is 5in or so(its underground).

Ive never seen another for sale down here and was

curious as to what it would be worth, any ideas?

Thanks :)

~Sc

rare flowering trees, palms and other exotics

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It is very difficult to put a value on any cycad because it depends on (1) where you live (e.g., there is a lot more demand and higher prices in CA than in FL), (2) how much someone is willing to pay for it, and (3) how badly you want to sell it (e.g., plants that are not for sale are always "worth" more than those that are). Post a photo and I'll try to give you a guesstimate -- and then Jeff S can relish in the thought of telling me how high I am!

Jody

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WOW! it worked for once! ok so to give some scale, the pot is 2ft tall.

what do you think?

~Sc

rare flowering trees, palms and other exotics

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Here in So Cal it would go for $500-800 I suspect.

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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That's not Cycas Debaoensis. Its Cycas bifida or possibly Cycas micholitzii.

What's it worth? I will give you $7.50. Deal? :)

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

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That's not Cycas Debaoensis. Its Cycas bifida or possibly Cycas micholitzii.

What's it worth? I will give you $7.50. Deal? :)

Oh yea. I missed that part.

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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I agree with Len on the species ID (which I suspected based on your original description), but I do not agree on the price that he offered. That plant should be worth $150-200 here in Florida (just my opinion).

Jody

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Oh Drat! thought i had the real deal :mrlooney: . Oh well, i still like it. Thanks Jody and everyone else!

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Same here in SoCal (maybe $100 over FL). No way it is a $500 - $800 plant!

I agree with Len on the species ID (which I suspected based on your original description), but I do not agree on the price that he offered. That plant should be worth $150-200 here in Florida (just my opinion).

Jody

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

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Jody and Len,

I purchased a C. debaoensis recently (I hope), what are the defining characteristics? I really don't mind if it is one of the others as it wasn't too pricey. My main concern is that I've heard rumors that C. debaoensis is quite cold hardy. I was planning on testing this plant out here in N. Florida. I don't want to plant it out if it is C. bifida or micholitzii.

Jason

Gainesville, Florida

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Just coming in on the tail end of this, it looks to me that it's probably a micholitzii. or a cross of something similar bifida/multipinnata type.

As it is a questionable species it really isn't worth anything to a collector but it would make a nice garden plant.

Even in California it wouldn't be worth much more than $100.00

Bruce

Now living the life in Childers, Queensland.

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Just coming in on the tail end of this, it looks to me that it's probably a micholitzii. or a cross of something similar bifida/multipinnata type.

As it is a questionable species it really isn't worth anything to a collector but it would make a nice garden plant.

Even in California it wouldn't be worth much more than $100.00

Bruce

Same here in SoCal (maybe $100 over FL). No way it is a $500 - $800 plant!

Cool! Where do I pick up the 5" caudex, 6 foot tall leaved Cycas micholitzii for $100 around here? :blink: Or even $200? :huh: (I will admit my estimate was in the high retail range though)

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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Bill, lets do the math together.

$150-200 Jody said for FL.

PLUS "maybe $100 over FL" i said.

Equals $250 - $300. Comprende?

Also, I got mine for $150 from Gary Wood with about 4 inch caudex. And since they are mostly subterranean, it was probably bigger. Just because you paid $800 for yours does not mean that is going price. ;)

Just coming in on the tail end of this, it looks to me that it's probably a micholitzii. or a cross of something similar bifida/multipinnata type.

As it is a questionable species it really isn't worth anything to a collector but it would make a nice garden plant.

Even in California it wouldn't be worth much more than $100.00

Bruce

Same here in SoCal (maybe $100 over FL). No way it is a $500 - $800 plant!

Cool! Where do I pick up the 5" caudex, 6 foot tall leaved Cycas micholitzii for $100 around here? :blink: Or even $200? :huh: (I will admit my estimate was in the high retail range though)

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

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Jody and Len,

I purchased a C. debaoensis recently (I hope), what are the defining characteristics? I really don't mind if it is one of the others as it wasn't too pricey. My main concern is that I've heard rumors that C. debaoensis is quite cold hardy. I was planning on testing this plant out here in N. Florida. I don't want to plant it out if it is C. bifida or micholitzii.

Tank,

By the time the plant gets that big, C. debaoensis is already quite bi- or multi-pinnate -- unlike the plant in the photo above (which I think is C. micholitzii), which is bifurcate but not truly bipinnate. Can you post a photo of your plant?

Jody

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Jody and Len,

I purchased a C. debaoensis recently (I hope), what are the defining characteristics? I really don't mind if it is one of the others as it wasn't too pricey. My main concern is that I've heard rumors that C. debaoensis is quite cold hardy. I was planning on testing this plant out here in N. Florida. I don't want to plant it out if it is C. bifida or micholitzii.

Tank,

By the time the plant gets that big, C. debaoensis is already quite bi- or multi-pinnate -- unlike the plant in the photo above (which I think is C. micholitzii), which is bifurcate but not truly bipinnate. Can you post a photo of your plant?

Jody

Jody,

Here is my little C. debaoensis.

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Thanks!

Jason

Gainesville, Florida

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Jason and Scott.... how's your plants looking these days?

David Simms zone 9a on Highway 30a

200 steps from the Gulf in NW Florida

30 ft. elevation and sandy soil

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As of June, as I recall at least, they still had not re-appeared in the local botanical garden.

In my post I sometimes express "my" opinion. Warning, it may differ from "your" opinion. If so, please do not feel insulted, just state your own if you wish. Any data in this post is provided 'as is' and in no event shall I be liable for any damages, including, without limitation, damages resulting from accuracy or lack thereof, insult, or any other damages

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