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Lipstick palm drying up ?


Kris

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I agree with Dean and something Kahilli has said in the past. I wonder if your soil is too dense and non-organic. As she has metioned, rots are their healthiest if they can access to a little air, I don't think you have that.

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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Dear Meg.Jose,Dean,Jeff & Bill :)

Thanks for your suggestions & your time...

Yes,the soil does not have any trace of soil mannure or composite ingredients.I must say we have stopped using cow mannure,the day our dogs Rocky & Pinky came in as puppies.And they love the smell of mannure & wet sand.i.e when it starts rainning the sweet aroma in the air is loved by our dogs & they go out for a full meal on these stuff ! So all our plants lank organic nutrients.Let me see what i can do in the days to come.

By the way lipsticks are not rare palms in our india.But slightly expensive depending on its size.

Thanks & Love to you all,

kris :)

love conquers all..

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I agree with Dean and something Kahilli has said in the past. I wonder if your soil is too dense and non-organic. As she has metioned, rots are their healthiest if they can access to a little air, I don't think you have that.

Tired when I posted that.

It should have the words "mentioned" and "ROOTS"!

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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There is something else very insidious and dangerous about cow manure...."herbicide carryover".

When some herbicides used to kill broadleaf in pasture are used, in the mixture there is one herbicide called called Picloram( and some others too), that travel all the way tru the digestive tract of the cows and afterwards spend some time in the compost heap, and...then are used as fertilizer with terrible results.

The herbicide is still there, not all of it .... but just enough to shrivel and impede normal growth for years after in a so called "organic" plot...

Organic gardeners in England found out about it first, most cattle farms use it ,even dairies that got their hay from other farmers using these herbicides,and then sold their manure...even this manure was toxic....for years.

I am not saying these herbicides are "bad", no ...they are very good at controling weeds in grassland.....Which palms are susceptible to it? I dont know...good question for somebody informed.

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There is something else very insidious and dangerous about cow manure...."herbicide carryover".

When some herbicides used to kill broadleaf in pasture are used, in the mixture there is one herbicide called called Picloram( and some others too), that travel all the way tru the digestive tract of the cows and afterwards spend some time in the compost heap, and...then are used as fertilizer with terrible results.

The herbicide is still there, not all of it .... but just enough to shrivel and impede normal growth for years after in a so called "organic" plot...

Organic gardeners in England found out about it first, most cattle farms use it ,even dairies that got their hay from other farmers using these herbicides,and then sold their manure...even this manure was toxic....for years.

I am not saying these herbicides are "bad", no ...they are very good at controling weeds in grassland.....Which palms are susceptible to it? I dont know...good question for somebody informed.

Fortunately, over here the grasses used for cattle feed and grazing are never sprayed with any chemicals as they are considered inferior to the grain grasses such as wheat, rice etc. that are used used for human consumption. chemical fertilisers and pesticides being extremely expensive are used by and large for human-use crops.

There was a time when my grandfather tried using chemical fertilisers instead of manure, back when we had a lot of vegetables growing. It did not have the deisred effect - perhaps the chemicals were not suited for our soil, perhaps the usage was done poorly - but in the end cowdung has shown very good results. The astonishing growth of our royal palms and the heavy fruit harvest of our mango trees is entirely due to application of cowdung.

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Fortunately, over here the grasses used for cattle feed and grazing are never sprayed with any chemicals as they are considered inferior to the grain grasses such as wheat, rice etc. that are used used for human consumption. chemical fertilisers and pesticides being extremely expensive are used by and large for human-use crops.

There was a time when my grandfather tried using chemical fertilisers instead of manure, back when we had a lot of vegetables growing. It did not have the deisred effect - perhaps the chemicals were not suited for our soil, perhaps the usage was done poorly - but in the end cowdung has shown very good results. The astonishing growth of our royal palms and the heavy fruit harvest of our mango trees is entirely due to application of cowdung.

Kumar,

Years ago we were in the same situation in Costa Rica: grass and the weeds in the grasslands were controlled by a lot of workers cutting them down with machetes. But labor has gotten more and more expensive, the solution: use herbicides to kill broadleafs.

This, combined with grass-seeds from high quality (african) species imported from Brasil,results in very nice grasslands, and happy cattle.

In the tropical parts of Costa Rica most of the cattle genetics are from Indian origin.You would feel at home visiting a ranch here.

Anyhow , the danger for "herbicide carryover" exists, here and in every place where these herbicides are used.

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  • 11 years later...

I have bought 10 feet high c renda..... Havnt reported it.... The plant i got from Pune to bihar.... Here it's very hot n dry.... The leaves are turning brown.... I'm worried....i water it daily......twice sprinkle water on leaves.....also from direct sun to semi shade I have put the plant.... Still not working....also if someone can share reporting soil mix recipe for this plant

 

 

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