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This tree at the L.A. arboretum is labeled Phoenix loureirii. The leaves are more recurved but it is an older tree and looks similar in stature. --- Perito

Perry Glenn

SLO Palms

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Posted

The attached leaf bases are unusual looking for any Phoenix I'm familiar with..

Bret

 

Coastal canyon area of San Diego

 

"In the shadow of the Cross"

Posted
Dwayne, to me it looks like a P. Sylvestris that is lacking boron and other elements. That's my guess.

Ditto

Jupiter FL

in the Zone formally known as 10A

Posted

Leaves look too planar for sylvestris to me. My first gut reaction was it looked Jubby, like a mini-jub.

Zone 9b/10a, Sunset Zone 22

7 miles inland. Elevation 120ft (37m)

Average annual low temp: 30F (-1C)

Average annual rainfall: 8" (20cm)

Posted

Looks like P. Sylvestris but maybe deficient in some mineral..

David

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post-1839-1234926171_thumb.jpgI found this photo of another Phoenix with retained leaf bases at Huntington Gardens. Unfortunately, I don't know the species.

Perry Glenn

SLO Palms

(805) 550-2708

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Posted

Phoenix paludosa?

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

Posted

Perito,

your second photo is of a Butia..

cheers....Malcolm

Posted

Seeing as how He's from Texas, thats almost definitely a phoenix sylvestris or a cross with it.

We dont get all those other rare palms you guys from Cali get

(welcome to the board by the way Dwayne)

Allen

Galveston Island Tx

9a/9b

8' Elevation

Sandy Soil

Jan Avgs 50/62

Jul Avgs 80/89

Average Annual Rainfall 43.5"

Posted

Thanks for all of the info guys. To me, this tree looks very similar to P. Canariensis but miniture in size. If it is difficult to tell by the picture, the canopy is only about 3.5-4 Ft in diameter. Also the retained leaf bases are orange in color (if this matters). I suspect probably a hybrid of some sort.

Thanks for the welcome to the board, I read it often and have gained a lot of valuable info. I have put in around 300 palms on my property in the last 2 years. I guess you can say "I'm addicted"!!

Saludos - Dwayne

dwayne norman

Posted

I agree, sylvestris. The orange color in the retained leaf bases is consistent with sylvestris.

Matt in Temecula, CA

Hot and dry in the summer, cold with light frost in the winter. Halfway between the desert and ocean

Posted

Dear friends :)

the first stills is indeed a P.sylversteris..here is a page full of visuals of that :

http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/228432/

Now lets see the Phoenix Loureirii :

http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/216926/

Now lets have some visuals of P.Loureirii var.Humilis :

http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/78521/

And by the way if you want more visuals of other phoenix varities then here is the link :

http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/search.ph...arch+PlantFiles

Love,

Kris :)

love conquers all..

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