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Variegated Licuala grandis

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Really full garden Grand Master

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About two years ago i found a pitiful L.grandis in a field of hundreds.It was very variegated but the foliage was burned.(the growers had it in morning sun).I bought it for about five dollars and took it home for some TLC.I was on a mission to save this palm.I gave it a new pot with my palm mix and placed it in bright shade - no direct sun.It soon started to put out a spectacular variegeted leaf 50- 50 green and white.After about six weeks the white part of the leaf started to die from the outer edge inward until just the green part survived.I thought lack of humidity but this was during our rainy season and our humidity is 90-100%.Every fourth leaf is a solid green leaf.

New leaf

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Older leaf showing necrosis

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El Oasis - beach garden, distinct wet/dry season ,year round 20-38c

Las Heliconias - jungle garden ,800m elevation,150+ inches rainfall, year round 15-28c

Gbarce Grand Master

Gbarce

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Wow!!! That new leaf is a real beauty!!

And for $5 ?!? Thats a tremendous find.

I am guessing even lower light conditions and good air circulation. But based on my experience with other variegated palms the lighter variegation (yellows and whites) die off and show damage a lot earlier than the green parts. I have some palms that have light green variegation and these are a lot tougher.

Ask Ariscott about the variegated Licuala Grandis on her avatar.

Gene

Manila, Philippines

53 feet above sea level - inland

Hot and dry in summer, humid and sticky monsoon season, perfect weather Christmas time

http://freakofnaturezzz.blogspot.com/

Really full garden Grand Master

Really full garden

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Wow!!! That new leaf is a real beauty!!

And for $5 ?!? Thats a tremendous find.

I am guessing even lower light conditions and good air circulation. But based on my experience with other variegated palms the lighter variegation (yellows and whites) die off and show damage a lot earlier than the green parts. I have some palms that have light green variegation and these are a lot tougher.

Ask Ariscott about the variegated Licuala Grandis on her avatar.

Gene, it seems here that variegated plants are seen as "diseased" and are not highly coveted as they are in the east. I bought a spectacular variegated (lutino) cycas revoluta under similar circumstances.

El Oasis - beach garden, distinct wet/dry season ,year round 20-38c

Las Heliconias - jungle garden ,800m elevation,150+ inches rainfall, year round 15-28c

Mark_NoVA Proficient

Mark_NoVA

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That reminds me of Canna 'Stuttgart'--the same kind of variegation with the same type of problems. Some have said give it less sun, or more water, but neither seems to do the trick.

zone 7a (Avg. max low temp 0 to 5 F, -18 to -15 C), hot humid summers

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John Case

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I would guess that thew vairegated part of the leaf, having no chloroplasts, would have a difficult time surviving, with no access to energy, it should die back over time....or am I wrong?

John Case

Brentwood CA

Owner and curator of Hana Keu Garden

USDA Zone 9b more or less, Sunset Zone 14 in winter 9 in summer

"Its always exciting the first time you save the world. Its a real thrill!"

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Moose Grand Master

Moose

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Bepah - Very cool palm B) ! Thanks for the photo. I agree, deeper shade and keep moist. You are still getting 50% photosynthesis per leaf. It should be sufficient. Did your fertilize :unsure: , that sometimes affects the variegation. May be you giving it new soil and love :wub: temporarily halted the variegation.

Good luck on your ouystanding find!

Best regards, :)

Ron.

Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

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gsn

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Bepah - Very cool palm B) ! Thanks for the photo. I agree, deeper shade and keep moist. You are still getting 50% photosynthesis per leaf. It should be sufficient. Did your fertilize :unsure: , that sometimes affects the variegation. May be you giving it new soil and love :wub: temporarily halted the variegation.

Good luck on your ouystanding find!

Best regards, :)

Ron.

What am I missing?

scottgt posted the photo, it is of his palm, and didn't indicate that the palm stopped it's variegation.Only that he couldn't keep the white part from burning and looking ratty?

It is a beautiful palm,and variegation is cool,but the problem with variegation in my opinion is ,unless it is a palm grown only in shade for it's entire life do they look good. Most varigated palms that see any amount of sun look ratty after awhile, especially full sun species. Just my opinion! :)

Scott

Titusville, FL

1/2 mile from the Indian River

USDA Zone COLD

Scott Cohen Proficient

Scott Cohen

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Thats a fantastic palm Scott! I suspect bepah is on the money, such a large expanse of leaf with no chloroplasts will be very weak and suseptible to just about anything that could chew on it.

rare flowering trees, palms and other exotics

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PalmsZA

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WOW!!!! Lucky bugger!

Sub-tropical

Summer rainfall 1200mm

Annual average temp 21c

30 South

Phil Veteran

Phil

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Scott,

I am not personally a variegated "nut" but do appreciate it when I see an interesting variegated specimen. This particular plant is really impressive because of the pattern of variegation; splitting the leaf into two halves. I think it is a remarkable plant. Please do whatever you can to nurse it along. It is worth the effort to preserve this stunning palm. Good luck,

Phil

Jungle Music Palms and Cycads, established 1977 and located in Encinitas, CA, 20 miles north of San Diego on the Coast.  Phone:  619 2914605 Link to Phil's Email phil.bergman@junglemusic.net Website: www.junglemusic.net Link to Jungle Music Palms and Cycads

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