Palms in Santa Clarita, CA

[K_Palm]

Howdy,

I just moved to Santa Clarita and all I see are Queen palms. Any of you that live out in this area (or are familiar with the area) know what would work well here?

Thanks!

[epicure3]

Well, you are probably going to be looking for cold hardy palms with a zone 9 limit, I would think. Braheas are nice looking palms. Shaded Chamaedorea varieties would work well in small places. Really, there are a ton of palms you could plant. Depends on what type of space you're looking at and how much you want to water, etc.....

[Palm Painter]

Well, you are probably going to be looking for cold hardy palms with a zone 9 limit, I would think. Braheas are nice looking palms. Shaded Chamaedorea varieties would work well in small places. Really, there are a ton of palms you could plant. Depends on what type of space you're looking at and how much you want to water, etc.....

Karel,

I have pushed the zones for palms in Santa Clarita, myself. Pindos, pygmy dates, some king palms med. fan palms dypsis decari etc. I think it also depends on your

own particular "micro climate"! Yes, there are way too many queen palms in Santa Clarita.

Good Luck!

Palm Painter (Santa Clarita)

[Walter John]

There are way too many queen palms everywhere.

[sonoranfans]

Howdy,

I just moved to Santa Clarita and all I see are Queen palms. Any of you that live out in this area (or are familiar with the area) know what would work well here?

Thanks!

You should get in touch with some of the members from your general area. You have a ton of choices, talk to these guys and they will advise. I would PM Dick(palmguyWC) and glenn(ghar41), these guys should know what you can plant and expect success.

Edited March 23, 2009 by sonoranfans

[K_Palm]

Thanks all for advice. Here is a list of the palms I have been raising for a few years (all in pots), let me know which ones you guys would definitely NOT plant:

Archontophoenix alexandrae, cunninghamiana, purpurea

Burretiokentia hapala

Carpentaria acuminata

Chambeyronia hookeri, macrocarpa

Dypsis decipiens, lanceolata, leptocheilos, lutescens, pembana

Howea forsteriana

Hyophorbe indica

Phoenix roebelenii

Ptychosperma elegans

Ravenea glauca, rivularis

Roystonea regia

Wodyetia bifurcata

[sonoranfans]

Thanks all for advice. Here is a list of the palms I have been raising for a few years (all in pots), let me know which ones you guys would definitely NOT plant:

Archontophoenix alexandrae, cunninghamiana, purpurea

Burretiokentia hapala

Carpentaria acuminata

Chambeyronia hookeri, macrocarpa

Dypsis decipiens, lanceolata, leptocheilos, lutescens, pembana

Howea forsteriana

Hyophorbe indica

Phoenix roebelenii

Ptychosperma elegans

Ravenea glauca, rivularis

Roystonea regia

Wodyetia bifurcata

Glenn(Ghar41) has a nice cunninghamiana close to the house, I believe. The raveneas may be OK the dypsis decipiens will be OK, most of the rest look iffy. Contact Dick(palmguyWC) and Glenn for the best info. Much of what you have there is zone 10, a bit of a stretch.

[DoomsDave]

Thanks all for advice. Here is a list of the palms I have been raising for a few years (all in pots), let me know which ones you guys would definitely NOT plant:

Archontophoenix alexandrae, IFFY cunninghamiana GOOD, purpurea GOOD

Burretiokentia hapalaIFFY

Carpentaria acuminata COMPOST

Chambeyronia hookeri, macrocarpa IFFY (BETTER WITH SHELTER)

Dypsis decipiens GOOD, lanceolataIFFY , leptocheilosIFFY , lutescensIFFY , pembanaIFFY

Howea forsteriana IFFY

Hyophorbe indica IFFY

Phoenix roebelenii GOOD

Ptychosperma elegans IFFY

Ravenea glauca GOOD, rivularisGOOD

Roystonea regia IFFY

Wodyetia bifurcata IFFY /GOOD

My answer to your question is -- it depends! Primarily on your garden's topography. If you're on a ridgetop, or someplace where cold air will drain away and not have cold air draining on you, you can move the above up a category, i.e., from iffy to good.

If you're down in the valley, valley so lowwww

When it freezes,

See the palms croak . . . . . . .

One more thing . . . .

Here in So-Cal, Carpenterias are house plants or compost, unless some serious witchcraft occurs . . . . .

Depending on topo, it can get really cold up there sometimes.

In any case, plant what you will, and keep us apprized.

And don't be afraid to prove me wrong about hardiness. (Or, teach me some witchcraft! )

[elHoagie]

Here in So-Cal, Carpenterias are house plants or compost, unless some serious witchcraft occurs . . . . .

Dave - I've had a Carpenteria growing outside at my place for more than two years now. It's looked good the entire time, but it hasn't grown as fast as I was expecting (similar growth rate to my Wodyetias)...

Karel - It's tough to tell what would make it or not. Like Dave said, a lot depends on where your house is located. Also, I think quite a few of these palms will need to be protected from the sun in the summer... I mostly agree with what Dave's suggested, but based on my experience I would say the Phoenix roeb, Dypsis decip, and Ravena glauca should make it no problem even if you have a cold microclimate. In a decent microclimate I think you can probably grow Arch cunning, Burretiokentia hapala, Chambeyronia, Dypsis leptocheilos, Howea, and Ravenea rivularis - although they would all need some shade in the summer to avoid scorching. If you have a fantastically warm microclimate then I think you can grow Arch alex and purpurea, Dypsis lutescens, Roystonea, and Wodyetia - and the Arch purpurea and Dyp. lutescens probably need protection from summer sun. The other palms are going to be a challenge, even if you live in a warm area of Santa Clarita.

[DoomsDave]

Here in So-Cal, Carpenterias are house plants or compost, unless some serious witchcraft occurs . . . . .

Dave - I've had a Carpenteria growing outside at my place for more than two years now. It's looked good the entire time, but it hasn't grown as fast as I was expecting (similar growth rate to my Wodyetias)...

WOW!

I've killed every one I've ever had, even when I was back in El Screamo. (Got another from Palmazon, try my luck again . . . . )

Hmm . . . . .

Is that Wing of Bat, eye of Frog, leg of Dog?

Seriously, you are in a seriously warm micro-clime to be able to get a Carpentaria to survive, let alone do reasonably well.

[elHoagie]

Here in So-Cal, Carpenterias are house plants or compost, unless some serious witchcraft occurs . . . . .

Dave - I've had a Carpenteria growing outside at my place for more than two years now. It's looked good the entire time, but it hasn't grown as fast as I was expecting (similar growth rate to my Wodyetias)...

WOW!

I've killed every one I've ever had, even when I was back in El Screamo. (Got another from Palmazon, try my luck again . . . . )

Hmm . . . . .

Is that Wing of Bat, eye of Frog, leg of Dog?

Seriously, you are in a seriously warm micro-clime to be able to get a Carpentaria to survive, let alone do reasonably well.

Maybe superior genetics (the palm, not me)? Mine came from palmazon, so yours is probably from the same batch...

[K_Palm]

Haven't lived here long enough to know my micro climate, but we are on the declining side of a hill top if that makes sense.

So what I'm hearing you guys say my main two concerns should be freezing and sun exposure. Is that right?

[Palm Painter]

Haven't lived here long enough to know my micro climate, but we are on the declining side of a hill top if that makes sense.

So what I'm hearing you guys say my main two concerns should be freezing and sun exposure. Is that right?

K-Palm,

You are more than welcome to visit my garden. Sometimes visuals are the best way to plan your garden.

I ive near Via Princessa and Isabella Pkwy. P.M. me or TINMAN!

Palm Painter

[tinman10101]

K-Palm

Palm Painter is definitely the man! You also need to take into consideration the Santa Ana Winds. They are quite brutal with the heat (like a blow dryer on your palms non-stop). I just settled here and testing the waters as well. Did you feel those crazy winds the last couple of days? I live on a slope as well. We can all experiment!

[IBGraham]

I know this is an older thread but I've been working on my tropical/ sub-tropical garden here in Santa Clarita for around 15 years and I had no clue that we had a Palm and tropical garden community. I would love to know more about what Palms in Santa Clarita people have had both success with and no success with.

 

[joe_OC]

4 hours ago, IBGraham said:

I know this is an older thread but I've been working on my tropical/ sub-tropical garden here in Santa Clarita for around 15 years and I had no clue that we had a Palm and tropical garden community. I would love to know more about what Palms in Santa Clarita people have had both success with and no success with.

 

I would reach out to: "rhallford826" here on PalmTalk.  He's been growing and selling a lot of palm species in Newbury Park.  He has posted a lot of palms for sale.

[96720]

I don’t know your low temps but royal palms will take any heat you throw at them I’m in Phoenix not too many areas hotter or with more intense sun royals are beautiful 

[SCVpalmenthusiast]

On 6/4/2021 at 8:09 AM, IBGraham said:

I know this is an older thread but I've been working on my tropical/ sub-tropical garden here in Santa Clarita for around 15 years and I had no clue that we had a Palm and tropical garden community. I would love to know more about what Palms in Santa Clarita people have had both success with and no success with.

 

What part of SCV?  I hear differing things about the climate. I’ve lived close to Cal Arts for the past 11 years. I’ve never experienced snow, but I think certain parts of SCV experience snow. Mainly Canyon Country and Saugus, the Northern part of the valley. In the past 11 years the lows have hovered around 30 degrees at the lowest. Mainly frost on roofs but rarely the ground. Your garden looks amazing.