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Which Rhapis species?

JasonD

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These were both bought as Rhapis multifida X humilis, but the one on the left looks unlike either species. Any thoughts as to what species this might be? Detail shots are of the plant in question.

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Jason Dewees

Inner Sunset District

San Francisco, California

Sunset zone 17

USDA zone 10a

21 inches / 530mm annual rainfall, mostly October to April

Humidity averages 60 to 85 percent year-round.

Summer: 67F/55F | 19C/12C

Winter: 56F/44F | 13C/6C

40-year extremes: 96F/26F | 35.5C/-3.8C

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More detail shots of the plant in question...the closer can at right.

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Jason Dewees

Inner Sunset District

San Francisco, California

Sunset zone 17

USDA zone 10a

21 inches / 530mm annual rainfall, mostly October to April

Humidity averages 60 to 85 percent year-round.

Summer: 67F/55F | 19C/12C

Winter: 56F/44F | 13C/6C

40-year extremes: 96F/26F | 35.5C/-3.8C

DoomsDave Grand Master

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Looks a lot like the Hooper's Hilarious Historical Hybrid . . . . .

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eastern.nurseries Proficient

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multifida x humilis what crap, they are all humilis, what's the difference between the two anyway? the flowers are all the same. half the humilis seedlings have that multifida look every time I get a batch going. shurochikuao is a japanese selection of humilis

John Case Grand Master

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multifida x humilis what crap, they are all humilis, what's the difference between the two anyway? the flowers are all the same. half the humilis seedlings have that multifida look every time I get a batch going. shurochikuao is a japanese selection of humilis

Helmut,

I am not certain of the assertion that these 2 are the same. Take a look at this photo of multifida and compare. I see a major difference, don't you?

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John Case

Brentwood CA

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PalmGuyWC Grand Master

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John,

I agree. Multifida is definately a different species. Mine look nothing like my humilis. I do have a couple of Multifida X Humilis crosses and they look more like Multifida. Humilis is a much larger palm than Multifida.

Dick

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eastern.nurseries

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I have grown both humilis and multifida from different batches of seed and each time it has produced a variety of forms. I have seen multifida plants 4 meters tall yet some descriptions say they only grow 2-3m. It is convenient to say one is different from another if you are looking for novelty but the fact is the floral differences between the two don't exist . It is also interesting that the Japanese Kansokai do not recognize multifida.

JasonD Mentor

JasonD

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This plant does not look like either species, which is why I posted in hopes of getting some insight from folks on the Forum. It resembles subtilis a bit, but has been growing happily in a California outdoor nursery setting with some extremes of humidity and temperature, which I would not expect from picky subtilis.

More detail shots of the plant in question...the closer can at right.

Jason Dewees

Inner Sunset District

San Francisco, California

Sunset zone 17

USDA zone 10a

21 inches / 530mm annual rainfall, mostly October to April

Humidity averages 60 to 85 percent year-round.

Summer: 67F/55F | 19C/12C

Winter: 56F/44F | 13C/6C

40-year extremes: 96F/26F | 35.5C/-3.8C

Creekside Proficient

Creekside

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This plant does not look like either species, which is why I posted in hopes of getting some insight from folks on the Forum. It resembles subtilis a bit, but has been growing happily in a California outdoor nursery setting with some extremes of humidity and temperature, which I would not expect from picky subtilis.

Neither one is a subtilis, but subtilis does like high humidity and temps.

Catherine Presley

 

Old Miakka

& Phillippi Creek

Sarasota

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