Dan Sekella's Walnut Creek, Ca. Sabal riverside

[swamptreenelly]

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[southlatropical]

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Thanks for the pictures! I have a couple of strapleaf 'Riversides' and it's hard to find many good visuals of what they look like when larger. Seems like they would be bigger after 20yrs, but I guess sabals are slow there in California.

[Kris]

Dear Nelson

Lovely visuals...but i have few questions on Sabal idying process.The palm seen in the above links were they raised from seeds or purschased from nurseries..?

And how do you know that its a SRS palm.and not any other sabal.Since even iam growing few SRS in our house garden here in south India.But all the sabals collected looks alike.Is their a site which teaches about sabal I.D's with visuals.

Since most of the times in our forum one member will post stills of a huge sabal saying that its robust palmetto,then one member will say its a texas sabal,then another memeber will say is a S.bermuda..

I think you follow what iam saying.Is it so confusing to I.D sabals ?

And the final question how to ID a mature SRS ? any stricking feature visible ?

thanks & love,

Kris

[swamptreenelly]

Dear Nelson

Lovely visuals...but i have few questions on Sabal idying process.The palm seen in the above links were they raised from seeds or purschased from nurseries..?

And how do you know that its a SRS palm.and not any other sabal.Since even iam growing few SRS in our house garden here in south India.But all the sabals collected looks alike.Is their a site which teaches about sabal I.D's with visuals.

Since most of the times in our forum one member will post stills of a huge sabal saying that its robust palmetto,then one member will say its a texas sabal,then another memeber will say is a S.bermuda..

I think you follow what iam saying.Is it so confusing to I.D sabals ?

And the final question how to ID a mature SRS ? any stricking feature visible ?

thanks & love,

Kris

Hi Kris,

I understand Sabals are very difficult to ID. I beleive this to be a Sabal riverside because of Dan Sekella being our past president of the Northern California Palm Society. Dan planted this palm at 2 feet high, I don't know if he grew it from seed>

Nelson

[sonoranfans]

Dear Nelson

Lovely visuals...but i have few questions on Sabal idying process.The palm seen in the above links were they raised from seeds or purschased from nurseries..?

And how do you know that its a SRS palm.and not any other sabal.Since even iam growing few SRS in our house garden here in south India.But all the sabals collected looks alike.Is their a site which teaches about sabal I.D's with visuals.

Since most of the times in our forum one member will post stills of a huge sabal saying that its robust palmetto,then one member will say its a texas sabal,then another memeber will say is a S.bermuda..

I think you follow what iam saying.Is it so confusing to I.D sabals ?

And the final question how to ID a mature SRS ? any stricking feature visible ?

thanks & love,

Kris

Kris, you are right, IDing sabals can be almost impossible. Sabal riverside is not a recognized species, its though to be a hybrid of some kind, a palm that was grown in riverside california. I bought a sabal riverside recently from gary woods, it is a different looking sabal for sure. Sabal riverside has some blue in it that palmettos dont have and the leaflets arent as costpalmate. Riverside also has long petioles and is one of the faster growing sabals. Some say sabals dont hybridize because their flowering seasons dont overlap, but I'll bet those seasons change when they are not in their native areas . Thats the fascinating thing about science, its always changing, very few absolutes. Hopefully we will get to see the day when SRS is subjected to a genome test to determine its heritage.

[Kris]

Dear Nelson & Dear Tom

Thanks for the explination...I had to ask this question because i have lots of different Sabal's growing in our roof top gardens.And they are from different countries sent to me by different members of this forum.And right from the sapling stage to big barrel size they all appear similar but as you have pointed they do have vast leaf colour difference & the fronds length is unique to some sabals..

I am keeping my fingers crossed...till those varities are all planted in the ground.But first i must clear some dicot tree branches to let in some sun light.

Thanks for your time gentlemen,

Lots of love to you both,

Kris