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I'm not sure if this has been asked a lot, but which species of palm are the fastest growing? The top 2 I always hear are Washingtonia robusta and Syagrus romanzoffiana, but are there any that are faster?

Keith 

Palmetto, Florida (10a) and Tampa, Florida (9b/10a)

Posted

pigafetta is my fastest.

JC

Posted

JC - without question. Bo's fastest growing palm as well!

Ron. :winkie:

Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

Posted

My fastest palm by far has also been Pigafetta, followed by Actinorhytis. For less tropical climates I would agree that Washingtonia robusta is the speedy one. For the high elevation or maritime perpetually cool climates, Ceroxylon parvifrons grows like a stalk of bamboo (perhaps a little exaggeration there) once a trunk starts to form. I have seen C. parvifrons in its cold habitat in the Andes which were perhaps 5 m. tall, and shooting so fast that the first leaves are still healthy and green on the trunk clear down to ground level!

garrin in hawaii

Posted

The answer depends on where you are.

Here, in Cali, it's queens and washies, no two ways.

Pigafettas croak.

But, in the tropics, the Pigs rule!

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Posted

Right now we're moving to Ellenton, fl. It's SW Fl, 10a, so Pigafetta most likely won't make it. It's right about as north as coconuts will grow long term.

Keith 

Palmetto, Florida (10a) and Tampa, Florida (9b/10a)

Posted

Just like Dave said; it depends on where you are.

Here in the south of Costa Rica, I am convinced african palmtrees ,Elaeis guineensis, are the fastest growers of all palms. They have been taken care of during one year in a nursery, where a lot of loving care is dispensed, and less than two years after transplant some of the new varieties have already fruitbunches.

The next runner up is coconut, the Malayan dwarf. But these receive nowhere near the love and care of the african pálms, they have to fend for themselves....so the competition is not fair here.....

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Outside the tropics, the Syagrus rommie is fastest without a doubt, except for the Foxy Lady and the red form Hyophorbe indica which are lightening fast. From seed I'd say that the red form Hyophorbe indica is the fastest thing I've ever grown. From delivered seed to 10ft in the ground and clear trunking in 3 and a half years!!!!!!!

Best regards

Tyrone

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Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

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I disagree with Queen and Washies for non tropical climates as the fastest even as they do grow extremely fast. My Caryota urens puts them all to shame growing almost double the speed of my queens.

Don_L    Rancho CUCAMONGA (yes it does exist) 40 min due east of Los Angeles

             USDA Zone 10a

July Averages: Hi 95F, Low 62F

Jan Averages: Hi 68F, Low 45F

Posted

I don't have a Pigafetta (I have lost each one I that I have tried), but I have grown all the other species mentioned and nothing compares to Acrocomia aculeata here in the subtropics. My largest one grew from a mere 4'OA to near 40 feet in 10 years. It started flowering at 6 or 7 years at around 30+ feet tall.

Jody

Posted

Of the palms I have I'd say Pseudophoenix ekmanii is the fastest by far! Oh no, sorry I meant the slowest! Did you think I'd lost it for a moment?

Actually I'd say the Faxy Lady is one of my fastest growing palms and Syagrus botryophora (but only after it once gets its true pinnate leaves. Prior to that it is slow). My Carpentarias are fast too. Clinostigma samoense is pretty fast too. Pritchardias are often considered rather slow growers but Pritchardia pacifica is fast. Mine got tall fast!

Hawaii Island (Big Island), leeward coast, 19 degrees N. latitude, south Kona mauka at approx. 380m (1,250 ft.) and about 1.6 km (1-mile) upslope from ocean.

 

No record of a hurricane passing over this island (yet!).  

Summer maximum rainfall - variable averaging 900-1150mm (35-45") - Perfect drainage on black volcanic rocky soil.  

Nice sunsets!

Posted

The top 3 for me:

Pigafetta elata - 7 ft of trunk per year

Clinostigma sp. 'Hawaiian hybrid' - 5 ft of trunk per year

Actinorhytis calapparia - 4 ft/yr

Clinostigma samoense and C. ponapense are both about the same, between 2.5 and 3 ft of new trunk per year

I know Carpentaria is reasonably fast as well, but must admit I never paid much attention to the few I have. An educated guess: around 3.5 ft/yr.

And, as a comparison, Bismarckia nobilis and Dypsis lastelliana, just a tad more than 1 ft of new trunk per year.

Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

Posted

Hmm, the Syagrus x Butia is the fastest for me. That thing is so robust. I got a seedling and by the next year it was this huge robust palm, around 5 feet tall. That's fast for the bay area.

Meteorologist and PhD student in Climate Science

Posted

Apart from Piggie rockets, you've got Carpentarias, Veitchia joannis in loamy soil in sub tropics, foxy ladies, Chamaedorea plumosa, Livistona decora, Dypsis cabadae x madagascariensis hybrids are speedy, the list goes on.

Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

Posted

Got to say Street's Piggie. That thing is fast by the pictures!

What you look for is what is looking

Posted
JC - without question. Bo's fastest growing palm as well!

Ron. :winkie:

What's a JC?

:huh:

Coastal San Diego, California

Z10b

Dry summer subtropical/Mediterranean

warm summer/mild winter

Posted

I think Moosie aka Ron is addressing street124 aka JC in post #2.

IF I could grow a Pigafetta, I'm sure it would be fast, but in my limited garden, the Archontophoenix myolensis is the speed queen.

Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
All characters  in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

Posted
JC - without question. Bo's fastest growing palm as well!

Ron. :winkie:

What's a JC?

:huh:

Jubaea chilensis :P

I'm always up for learning new things!

Posted

In Gainesville, Caryota urens is probably the fastest one as well!

I'm always up for learning new things!

Posted

for me, its Archontophoenix maxima, and ptychosperma furcatum! the furcatum has grown probably 4+ feet a year, the archontophoenix is around 4-5ft per year!

Posted
I disagree with Queen and Washies for non tropical climates as the fastest even as they do grow extremely fast. My Caryota urens puts them all to shame growing almost double the speed of my queens.

The speed of queens is extremely variable with water and fertilizer. I have seen the under watered and underfed ones look quite a bit slower. I have one that gets the extra benefit of being near several roses(more frequent watering and fertilizer), and it has gone from 10'-30' overall in just under 5 years(5yrs at the end of the summer). Thats 4'+ per year in overall height. And yet my neighbors queens have grown less than 2' a year in that time. He tries to grow them in high pH soil(no sulfur) with 1/2 the water and rarely adds the necessary micronutrients or more than 1 fertilization a year. Washingtonia robustas grow very fast here and are not picky about the nutrients or soil. They might not be as fast as queens initially, but once they hit 8' or so, they outpace the queens to 40', and then onto to 60'.

Formerly in Gilbert AZ, zone 9a/9b. Now in Palmetto, Florida Zone 9b/10a??

 

Tom Blank

Posted

The top five speed racers:

(In no particular order)

Archontophoenix, except for purpurea.

Washies, especially robusta

Caryota urens

Syagrus noodlesromanoffianum and

Trachycarpus fortunei! (What???!)

Let's keep our forum fun and friendly.

Any data in this post is provided 'as is' and in no event shall I be liable for any damages, including, without limitation, damages resulting from accuracy or lack thereof, insult, or lost profits or revenue, claims by third parties or for other similar costs, or any special, incidental, or consequential damages arising out of my opinion or the use of this data. The accuracy or reliability of the data is not guaranteed or warranted in any way and I disclaim liability of any kind whatsoever, including, without limitation, liability for quality, performance, merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose arising out of the use, or inability to use my data. Other terms may apply.

Posted

For my climate, during the wet season, the bigger the seed is, the faster the seedling will be. Coconuts are the fastest growing palms at early stages...

Exceptions: Borassus (slow); Pigafetta, Clinostigma, B. nicobarica and Carpentaria acuminata (very fast growing palms).

Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers

Posted (edited)

Archo' alexandra and cunninghamiana, and Caryota urens are the fastest for me.

Livistona decora and Parajubaea torallyi torallyi are better than I expected, growing much faster than Caryota obtusa planted a similar size.

I don't think Foxy Lady, or straight Wodyetias and Veitchias are remotely as fast here as Florida and Hawaii.

Edited by osideterry

Zone 9b/10a, Sunset Zone 22

7 miles inland. Elevation 120ft (37m)

Average annual low temp: 30F (-1C)

Average annual rainfall: 8" (20cm)

Posted

For me, it's probably Veitchia Arecina or Foxy Lady. While they no-grow in winter, their summers make up for it. They grow faster than any palm I have that keeps growing through the winter.

Coastal San Diego, California

Z10b

Dry summer subtropical/Mediterranean

warm summer/mild winter

Posted

Not far from here, in St. Francisville, Louisiana, there are two Livistona decora on US61 that I have watched for the last several years as they went from relatively small plants to mammoth individuals. There are decently tall Washy robustas here, and they do grow at a good clip, but I don't think I've ever seen any grow as fast as those two decoras. A healthy Trachycarpus fortunei grows probably as fast as most Washingtonias here. On my own property the prize so far goes to Phoenix sylvestris 'robusta.' from a very small plant to a huge 10'+ shuttlecock of leaves in 4 years. No trunk yet but nevertheless it's a whopper!

Michael Norell

Rancho Mirage, California | 33°44' N 116°25' W | 287 ft | z10a | avg Jan 43/70F | Jul 78/108F avg | Weather Station KCARANCH310

previously Big Pine Key, Florida | 24°40' N 81°21' W | 4.5 ft. | z12a | Calcareous substrate | avg annual min. approx 52F | avg Jan 65/75F | Jul 83/90 | extreme min approx 41F

previously Natchez, Mississippi | 31°33' N 91°24' W | 220 ft.| z9a | Downtown/river-adjacent | Loess substrate | avg annual min. 23F | Jan 43/61F | Jul 73/93F | extreme min 2.5F (1899); previously Los Angeles, California (multiple locations)

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Posted

Here in New Smyrna Beach, FL (about 1 1/2 hrs from Orlando), there is no question that Archontophoenix cunninghamiana has been, by far, the fastest growing palm for me. A. alexandrae has not performed the same way. It beats Washingtonia robusta, Syagrus romanzoffiana, and Roystonea regia by a lot. I have not tried Pigafetta.

Frank

I'm not sure if this has been asked a lot, but which species of palm are the fastest growing? The top 2 I always hear are Washingtonia robusta and Syagrus romanzoffiana, but are there any that are faster?
Posted

Some of you may have already seen this photo, these Hyophorbe indica two red, and three green, are 24 months old from seed, the tallest one stands six foot four, from soil elevation to tip of frond, Ed

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MOSQUITO LAGOON

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I suppose it depends on how one defines "fastest." I've had Chamaedorea metallica go from seed to seeding in 4 or 5 years. While it doesn't get very big, it certainly grew up fast. I've heard Licuala triphylla will mature in 3 years.

Tom

Bowie, Maryland, USA - USDA z7a/b
hardiestpalms.com

Posted
Here in the south of Costa Rica, I am convinced african palmtrees ,Elaeis guineensis, are the fastest growers of all palms. They have been taken care of during one year in a nursery, where a lot of loving care is dispensed, and less than two years after transplant some of the new varieties have already fruitbunches.

The next runner up is coconut, the Malayan dwarf. But these receive nowhere near the love and care of the african pálms, they have to fend for themselves....so the competition is not fair here.....

Hi Jose Maria, Have you ever grown Pigafetta? They grow so fast here that I believe you can sit and actually watch them grow! :) I'll see if Marco has any Pigafetta seeds that he can bring to the meeting on Saturday. Some of mine were 3 meters tall (overall height) in two years from germination! They slowed down considerably during the dry season but they are speeding back up again now that we are getting plenty of rain. I've never seen a faster palm.

Formerly Jeff in Costa Rica
 

Posted
Here in New Smyrna Beach, FL (about 1 1/2 hrs from Orlando), there is no question that Archontophoenix cunninghamiana has been, by far, the fastest growing palm for me. A. alexandrae has not performed the same way. It beats Washingtonia robusta, Syagrus romanzoffiana, and Roystonea regia by a lot. I have not tried Pigafetta.

Frank

I'm not sure if this has been asked a lot, but which species of palm are the fastest growing? The top 2 I always hear are Washingtonia robusta and Syagrus romanzoffiana, but are there any that are faster?

Welcome Frank, I'm from N.S.B. also, Ed

MOSQUITO LAGOON

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Posted
I'm not sure if this has been asked a lot, but which species of palm are the fastest growing? The top 2 I always hear are Washingtonia robusta and Syagrus romanzoffiana, but are there any that are faster?

If you feed and water it enough, syagrus is the fastest, faster than washies. Most syagrus look deprived as growers are skimping on water and nutrients. A healthy syagrus should have 12-15 lush green fronds at 25' high overall. When I see the ones with small crowns, I know what happened. In the case of water or nutrient deprivation, syagrus definitely wont be the fastest.

Formerly in Gilbert AZ, zone 9a/9b. Now in Palmetto, Florida Zone 9b/10a??

 

Tom Blank

Posted

Down here in south Florida, Vietchias win in my opinion.

Bayside Tree Farms is located in Homestead Florida USA
(305) 245-9544

Posted
Down here in south Florida, Vietchias win in my opinion.

Hi Miike, do you mean an Adonidia merrillii, they used to be Vietchia, Ed

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Posted
Down here in south Florida, Vietchias win in my opinion.

Hi Miike, do you mean an Adonidia merrillii, they used to be Vietchia, Ed

Adonidia merrillii is considerably slower than Veitchia arecina,not to sure about the other Veitchia species.

I wouldn't consider Adonidia merrillii fast by any means!

Scott

Titusville, FL

1/2 mile from the Indian River

USDA Zone COLD

Posted
Down here in south Florida, Vietchias win in my opinion.

Hi Miike, do you mean an Adonidia merrillii, they used to be Vietchia, Ed

Adonidia merrillii is considerably slower than Veitchia arecina,not to sure about the other Veitchia species.

I wouldn't consider Adonidia merrillii fast by any means!

I agree, my Adonidias are, two years old, and just over two feet, or so above soil, but twice the size of my Hyophorbe v., Ed

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Posted
Down here in south Florida, Vietchias win in my opinion.

Hi Miike, do you mean an Adonidia merrillii, they used to be Vietchia, Ed

Vietchia

Montgomery

,Winnin ,

MacDaniels

Bayside Tree Farms is located in Homestead Florida USA
(305) 245-9544

Posted
Down here in south Florida, Vietchias win in my opinion.

Hi Miike, do you mean an Adonidia merrillii, they used to be Vietchia, Ed

Vietchia

Montgomery

,Winnin ,

MacDaniels

Oh, I see, ok, Ed

MOSQUITO LAGOON

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Posted

Washingtonia robusta is probably our fastrst growing palm here in 8b/9a given full sun things grow fast here if they can take the cold.

queens are marginal and can get set back year to year with a hard freeze.

a healthy good posostioned windmill also can be surprising butnot faster than a Washy.

Luke

Tallahassee, FL - USDA zone 8b/9a

63" rain annually

January avg 65/40 - July avg 92/73

North Florida Palm Society - http://palmsociety.blogspot.com/

Posted

The fastest under ideal conditions, that is one story.

Most of my palms grow in part sun. Except Brahea armata which is in full sun.

My fastest growing palm in terms of the number of leaves per year is Brahea armata.

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chris.oz

Bayside Melbourne 38 deg S. Winter Minimum 0 C over past 6 years

Yippee, the drought is over.

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