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Jerry is the palm to the right of the D. basilonga is what turned out to be the fake D.B.?

If you're referring to the palm on the far right, its a prestoniana. I did buy a fakey basilonga a few years back which ended up being a madagascariensis type. Ended up giving it away but I should have held on to it. It had some nice coloration, but was more or less just a madagascariensis. ??

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Thanks Jerry I see now, your prestoniana and carpoxylon are looking very healthy.I have two of he fakey in the ground from small seedlings they are in the mad. complex but different just starting to show some wood. I would like to see some others if they are out there.

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Jerry,

It's really nice to see these species do so well for you. I often wonder when customers buy these and take them home, how well are they treated and care for and more important, what kind of success their having.

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Searle Brothers Nursery Inc.

and The Rainforest Collection.

Southwest Ranches,Fl.

  • 2 years later...
Posted

2 years since the last bump. anymore success stories for this one? are we going to see seeds again soon?

Grant
Long Beach, CA

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Grant here is mine from the plant seen in 2009 post. It is slower than Sanitlucei for me. It also loves to get some fungus on the leaves and Rachis. Both mine in the ground get the fungus. I wonder what others experience here in Cali.

As far as seeds, Marcus plants are flowering. So expect plants in the near future.

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Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

Posted

thanks for sharing the update len. some report that its a fast grower and some report its slow. im not growing basilonga, but have found that saint lucei is pretty prone to fungus as well. the fungus on yours could be causing the slow growth, but it still looks good in the picture. it looks like yours has put on girth but not much height.

Grant
Long Beach, CA

Posted

Actually, the opposite. Height but no girth :) Bad picture.

Grant were the people that said they are fast live in California? If so, heck maybe that leaf fungus is slowing things.

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

Posted

MIne has been fairly quick, looks beautiful now. I will post a photo later.

Rock Ridge Ranch

South Escondido

5 miles ENE Rancho Bernardo

33.06N 117W, Elevation 971 Feet

Posted

Mine croaked. Not a great palm for me in South Florida, but it could have been the location. Just too much water. I'll try another one in a drier area. I replaced it with a dwarf Areca catechu that's doing quite well. Location, location.

-Randy

"If you need me, I'll be outside" -Randy Wiesner Palm Beach County, Florida Zone 10Bish

Posted

Mine croaked. Not a great palm for me in South Florida, but it could have been the location. Just too much water. I'll try another one in a drier area. I replaced it with a dwarf Areca catechu that's doing quite well. Location, location.

-Randy

I saw them in habitat, only at the very top of Mount Vatovavy which is cool.

Rock Ridge Ranch

South Escondido

5 miles ENE Rancho Bernardo

33.06N 117W, Elevation 971 Feet

Posted

Gary, Cool? There was no cool temp's when we were all up there. It ain't that high up. I can't figure out why these don't prosper here in south Florida, but I seriously doubt it's because of the lack of cool weather. Mine has been planted for about 5-6 years now, and while it's certainly nothing to brag about, it is alive.

Searle Brothers Nursery Inc.

and The Rainforest Collection.

Southwest Ranches,Fl.

Posted

only one or two people have told me they were fast in California. most of the people on the forum who said they were fast were in Hawaii. they have added that they were extra fast even for Hawaii though.

so they come from some elevation? do they need humidity AND cool temperatures? im becoming more confused with everyone's reports on this sp.

Grant
Long Beach, CA

Posted

Mt Vatovavy is only 1,500 feet or so. Not much of an elevation.

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"If you need me, I'll be outside" -Randy Wiesner Palm Beach County, Florida Zone 10Bish

Posted

Jeff your right it was not cool, but it did feel much cooler than other locations in south madagascar.

Rock Ridge Ranch

South Escondido

5 miles ENE Rancho Bernardo

33.06N 117W, Elevation 971 Feet

Posted

I promise to get a pic of mine. It definitely grows at a good clip here in inland so cal set in a shady location.

Gary

Rock Ridge Ranch

South Escondido

5 miles ENE Rancho Bernardo

33.06N 117W, Elevation 971 Feet

Posted

I promise to get a pic of mine. It definitely grows at a good clip here in inland so cal set in a shady location.

Gary

I think this was my mistake. Too much sun, too fast for SoCal. Gary's looks a lot better in shade. I guess we should treat this like a Saintlucei and let it grow into more sun.

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

Posted

Here is my Dypsis basilonga in So Cal. From ground to top of leaf is 8' now. Ive only had it in the ground around three years from a small plant so it is doing quite well. It is a very elegant palm and really thrives in my climate.

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Rock Ridge Ranch

South Escondido

5 miles ENE Rancho Bernardo

33.06N 117W, Elevation 971 Feet

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Ow my neck!

Let's keep our forum fun and friendly.

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Try again

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Rock Ridge Ranch

South Escondido

5 miles ENE Rancho Bernardo

33.06N 117W, Elevation 971 Feet

Posted

Looks great Gary

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

Posted

I agree, this looks beautiful Gary. Glad to hear it's doing well as this is a pretty rare palm in cultivation.

Searle Brothers Nursery Inc.

and The Rainforest Collection.

Southwest Ranches,Fl.

Posted

I dun seened it in person... very purdy palm indeed!

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

Posted

that's what i'm talking about. awesome. I cant wait to see more of these in cultivation once Marcus's trees begin to spread.

Grant
Long Beach, CA

Posted

Thanks everyone for the compliment, it is a really pretty palm. My only regret was i only planted one of these.

Rock Ridge Ranch

South Escondido

5 miles ENE Rancho Bernardo

33.06N 117W, Elevation 971 Feet

Posted

Lol. You're too much Dave :D

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Many may have seen Marcus's plants recently, but just in case not all have, here they are this winter

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Jeff has it all.

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Rock Ridge Ranch

South Escondido

5 miles ENE Rancho Bernardo

33.06N 117W, Elevation 971 Feet

  • 1 year later...
Posted

Bump. I'm curious how tall yours is Gary. Any other updates?

  • 1 year later...
Posted

Udpates?

Anyone?

(Whimper.)

Let's keep our forum fun and friendly.

Any data in this post is provided 'as is' and in no event shall I be liable for any damages, including, without limitation, damages resulting from accuracy or lack thereof, insult, or lost profits or revenue, claims by third parties or for other similar costs, or any special, incidental, or consequential damages arising out of my opinion or the use of this data. The accuracy or reliability of the data is not guaranteed or warranted in any way and I disclaim liability of any kind whatsoever, including, without limitation, liability for quality, performance, merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose arising out of the use, or inability to use my data. Other terms may apply.

  • 2 years later...
Posted

Excuse me for the bump but any updated pics would be great. As I am going to start over with this species soon. Thanks 

Posted
13 hours ago, akamu said:

any updated pics would be great. As I am going to start over with this species soon.

I have a pair that I planted in 2017/18.  Both in shaded to filtered light spots with summer mid-day sun.  The first one I planted did better, I think I actually planted the second one too high.  The second one was a little wobbly and I ended up using green gardening tape and a couple of stakes to support it so it is coming back from getting knocked around a little.  I won't post for the second one, but here is the other one.  First photo is from May 2018 when I got it in a pot (one of those Palm Society auction items we both were bidding on), second photo planted in March 2018, and the rest are current photos from 3/4/2020.  Give it part shade or filtered light and you should be fine.

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33.0782 North -117.305 West  at 72 feet elevation

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That's looking really good Tracy  pretty good growth also.The first one I planted got end of the day sun and it never look good definitely going with more shade on this one.The pics of  the ones grown in Hawaii seem to have more color in the crown I am guessing it's a climate thing not a variance in form

 

 

  • 4 years later...
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An old thread with great info on my new double I just planted. I am about 15 miles from the coast and it is planted in filtered shade from some larger canopy . It sounds like it will tolerate Southern California well . Mine are still young but already acclimated to outdoor life. We shall see in the coming months. Harry

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This has been a very difficult palm for me to grow; they seem fine in pots, but once planted in ground they just stall.  Tracy's looks great and last time I was at Matt's in San Diego, he had a really nice one growing. Well grown ones are very attractive.

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Bret

 

Coastal canyon area of San Diego

 

"In the shadow of the Cross"

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Planted 2 a few year ago from Jeff in 1 gallon pots.  One in deep shade that is just a skinny thing.  The other gets full sun at times and is doing really nice.

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Shade grown

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Steve

Born in the Bronx

Raised in Brooklyn

Matured In Wai`anae

I can't be held responsible for anything I say or do....LOL

Posted

I think I may spear mark my recent Dypsis that I have planted. I planted 3 different types . They have only been in the ground a couple of days , watered the day after planting . It seems that there are mixed results in Southern California on this particular one . We’ll see, Harry

Posted
3 hours ago, WaianaeCrider said:

Planted 2 a few year ago from Jeff in 1 gallon pots.  One in deep shade that is just a skinny thing.  The other gets full sun at times and is doing really nice.

This one gets the sun its pushing 4 feet.Chrysalidocarpusbasilonga-2-20240702_094103.thumb.jpg.f381a15653f6c7e5af9e3a7920bfea8a.jpg

Shade grown

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OOPS.  The first third and forth picture go together.  LOL 

Steve

Born in the Bronx

Raised in Brooklyn

Matured In Wai`anae

I can't be held responsible for anything I say or do....LOL

Posted
20 hours ago, Harry’s Palms said:

An old thread with great info on my new double I just planted. I am about 15 miles from the coast and it is planted in filtered shade from some larger canopy . It sounds like it will tolerate Southern California well . Mine are still young but already acclimated to outdoor life. We shall see in the coming months. Harry

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My Chrysalidocarpus basilongus were planted at similar size.  One got hit by something dropping on it when still relatively young, so the setback going into winter was insurmountable for it.  The other one has thrived.  My challenge now is that it is growing at a similar pace as an adjacent Pritchardia, and Chambeyronia houailou.  It looks nice but the trunks are all about 5 feet apart in a row, so it makes it difficult to get a full photo.  I have a fence on one side and a walkway down the side of my house so its too large to get a straight on photo, except for just portions of the plant.

Photos at least provide insights on size and leaf structure.  This is a species that grows very differently here than in Hawaii.  Specimens in Hawaii all have much more girth in the trunks, while all I have seen in Southern California are much skinnier palms like mine.

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33.0782 North -117.305 West  at 72 feet elevation

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@Tracy mine is in a similar situation. Fence on one side , walkway on the other and next to a freshly planted Dypsis Plumosa. Harry

Posted

First off, glad to see how well these grow in California, looking good!

This is a great garden palm, not too big or small, attractive habit, and unusual color. The grey/green leaves with their long basal pinnae are especially striking. Another bonus is the rose color on the crown shaft after shedding the leaf sheath eventually turning to powdery white. IMO, planting in multiples, rather than singles, just enhance the unique characteristics of this palm.

Here are a few pics of the grouping of three in the garden. Note the orange handle shovel in the first photo for scale. Been in ground for 8 years from 1 gal. pots. 

Tim

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Tim

Hilo, Hawaii

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