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I have a ?? about my AE AE Banana

metalfan

By metalfan
in TROPICAL LOOKING PLANTS - Other Than Palms

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metalfan Grand Master

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My Ae Ae finally decided after several years to bloom and set fruit. AT the same time it has 5-6 pups coming out at the base.

I am concerned because the largest of these ouos, which is now about 2-2.5 ft tall, is all white. The pseudostem is a pinkish white and the first outer leaf is all white.

Am I correct that unless some green pops up sometime, somewhere, this pup won't make it in the end? Should I remove it now to give the other pups more of a chance to develop?

I can get a photo tomorrow for anyone who thinks they need to see it to answer the question, LOL

"You can't see California without Marlon Brando's eyes"---SliPknot

 

popper1 Community Regular

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A plant that is all white will not be able to photosynthesize so will not survive. I would take it off so the plant doesn't waste anymore energy on a pup that will not survive.

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Gina,

I agree with David. Cool looking but remove it. Congrats on keeping the Ae Ae alive. Mine perished long ago

Bren in South St. Pete Florida

Kim Grand Master

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I can get a photo tomorrow for anyone who thinks they need to see it to answer the question, LOL

I need to see it just for the pleasure of seeing a pupping Ae Ae! But I won't have an answer to the question... :)

Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
All characters  in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

John Case Grand Master

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In the Ae Ae, any pup that is all white will sap the strength of the rest of the mat. Unless you get a leaf with some green soon, cut it out and let it go. You will get some pups with green and they will be fine,

John Case

Brentwood CA

Owner and curator of Hana Keu Garden

USDA Zone 9b more or less, Sunset Zone 14 in winter 9 in summer

"Its always exciting the first time you save the world. Its a real thrill!"

epicure3 Grand Master

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In the Ae Ae, any pup that is all white will sap the strength of the rest of the mat. Unless you get a leaf with some green soon, cut it out and let it go. You will get some pups with green and they will be fine,

.......but, first, take a picture and share. Sounds pretty cool.

Coastal San Diego, California

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warm summer/mild winter

metalfan Grand Master

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I thought that would be the answer, LOL. I have a birdnest anthurium that has a very strange variegation, each new leaf is completely white and looks like it contains no chloroblasts as it emerges. But after a few days, it starts to gradually marble, and goes through a stage of being a variegated leaf, then it reverts to a light green. I consulted an aroid researcher who said that many variegated plants, even if they appear all white or all pink or all yellow or whatever the variegation color is, have buried chloroblasts that are simply not numerous enough to be seen by the naked eye.

I think I will separate the pup, but pot it up and see what happens. Its certainly large enough to be taken off! The others around the base, though smaller, are definitely green and white variegated. I can see that already.

I'll get a photo after my run this am and post it

"You can't see California without Marlon Brando's eyes"---SliPknot

 

metalfan Grand Master

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Here's the photojuly09007.jpg

"You can't see California without Marlon Brando's eyes"---SliPknot

 

metalfan Grand Master

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close up of the leafjuly09008.jpg

"You can't see California without Marlon Brando's eyes"---SliPknot

 

Moose Grand Master

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Metalfan - Try a magnesium sulfate, potassium sulfate and nitrogen (systemic) combination before you remove the pups. If that does not green them up, removal then may be an option.

Kindest regards, :)

Ron.

PS - If you are a metal fan, did you see Led Zeplin live in Tampa in the 70's at the Sombrero?

Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

metalfan Grand Master

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Ron.

sorry BUT no I missed that show.

Metal for me started with, probably, Mercyful Fate, Burzum, Venom and Mayhem...and was followed up shortly by Bathory and Slayer. Led Zepplin. while a great band in their own right, hardly qualifies as true 'metal'.

But your chemical regimen has promise

"You can't see California without Marlon Brando's eyes"---SliPknot

 

PalmsZA Proficient

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Ron.

sorry BUT no I missed that show.

Metal for me started with, probably, Mercyful Fate, Burzum, Venom and Mayhem...and was followed up shortly by Bathory and Slayer. Led Zepplin. while a great band in their own right, hardly qualifies as true 'metal'.

But your chemical regimen has promise

Hey Gina

I reckon leave it for a while just incase it starts popping some green.

Cheers

Dennis

PS Disturbed "indestructible" has been making my ipod spin for the last few months! Awesome album.

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Summer rainfall 1200mm

Annual average temp 21c

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Moose Grand Master

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Gina - John Lennon said about "Elvis" regarding rock and roll, "before Elvis, there was nothing".

I say regarding heavy metal, "before Led Zepplin, there was nothing". Metal evolved very quickly away from Zepplin, which was very heavily blues influenced (many songs are covers of old blues recordings). It is my belief that their sound began and influenced the heavy metal genre. My 14 year old loves metal and appreciates Led Zepplin.

Let us know if the AE AE Banana greens up. Those chemicals should do something by September.

Kindest regards,

Ron. :)

Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

metalfan Grand Master

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I don't dislike LZ, we say "Get the Led Out" last month when they came to town and they were great. But I have to have a much heavier beat and much more meaty lyrics than Led Zepplin on a daily basis. I really like Amon Amarth, which is a Viking Death Metal band, at the moment. They are certainly not new, have been around for many years but their more recent music has been quantum better than their older efforts. I also like Children of Bodom, Opeth and In Flames quite a bit, and Lamb of God floats the boat as well.

I think I am going to remove this white pup today and containerize it. There are 5 or so other pups that are not developing and I think its because this one is purloining all the energy. I consulted with my banana gurus and they said take it off for the good of the colony. I'll pot it up and give it some additional nutrition and see what gives. They don't think it will survive but who knows?

"You can't see California without Marlon Brando's eyes"---SliPknot

 

metalfan Grand Master

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THANK YOU everyone who voted I should remove the all white pup.

I did and less than 48 hours later, 2 of the other pups, both of which have promise of great variegation, just TOOK OFF and started growing like weeds! Before they had been doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. That all white pup was literally robbing everyone else of evergy.

"You can't see California without Marlon Brando's eyes"---SliPknot

 

epicure3 Grand Master

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Very cool. Probably not a good thing...some sort of abmormality but it might green up. Is that green and gold plant to the right in the first picture a croton?

Coastal San Diego, California

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Gina - John Lennon said about "Elvis" regarding rock and roll, "before Elvis, there was nothing".

I say regarding heavy metal, "before Led Zepplin, there was nothing". Metal evolved very quickly away from Zepplin, which was very heavily blues influenced (many songs are covers of old blues recordings). It is my belief that their sound began and influenced the heavy metal genre. My 14 year old loves metal and appreciates Led Zepplin.

Let us know if the AE AE Banana greens up. Those chemicals should do something by September.

Kindest regards,

Ron. :)

Growing up w/Elvis, Johnny Cash, Carl Perkins, Jerry Lee Lewis, and the like I say:

"Rock N Roll is only between Bill Haley and the Comets and the British Invasion. After that it's Rock and I don't like most of it."

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metalfan Grand Master

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Hi Epicure,

sorry to be so long answering the question you asked but we had to go out of town very suddenly ad fly to Texas for a death in our family. Just got back today. Yes, that is a croton but I forgot which one, I'd have to look at the tag

"You can't see California without Marlon Brando's eyes"---SliPknot

 

Moose Grand Master

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Metalfan - have the remaining pups started to green up?

Ron. :)

Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

metalfan Grand Master

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Moose,

all the others were already showing variegation.

"You can't see California without Marlon Brando's eyes"---SliPknot

 

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Moose Grand Master

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This thread made me go out and acquire one last weekend :greenthumb: from Action Theorey Nursery in Goulds, FL, 305-970-5018. It is also called Musa paradisiaca. They only have robust seven gallons left. Here is a photo of mine.

Ron. :)

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Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

metalfan Grand Master

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I ended up taking down the mother a week or so ago and sacrificing the hand of fruit because the squirrels were tearing stuff up trying to get to them. I cut the mom off about 5 ft from the ground. The largest pup was already at a pseudostem height about 5 ft anyway, taller with leavesaug09063.jpg

"You can't see California without Marlon Brando's eyes"---SliPknot

 

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