Chamaedorea linearis

[gyuseppe]

the chamaedorea linearis is resistant to -2/-3 degrees (celsius) below zero?

I my sorry for the quality of the photo

[Jonathan]

I'm not sure about how much cold it can take - Phil Bergman posted some info about this palm (I think?) maybe on his Jungle Music 'for sale' thread. Maybe Phil might chip in here.

A very beautiful palm, I'm envious!

Cheers,

Jonathan

[gyuseppe]

the chamaedorea linearis plant and a new introduction in Europe,

there are no data on resistance to frost,

the germination was easy

[Jonathan]

the chamaedorea linearis plant and a new introduction in Europe,

there are no data on resistance to frost,

the germination was easy

Gyuseppe - where did the seeds come from, if you don't mind me asking?

I've never noticed them for sale.

Thanks,

Jonathan

[gyuseppe]

yes-i never seen seeds for sale by rarepalmseeds.

me these seeds has given a friend of in germany, only a few seeds,

(sorry my English)

[Jonathan]

Dont worry about your English - my Italian is far worse!

Cheers,

Jonathan

[Geoff]

never grown this palm, but here's a photo of one in Balboa Park, San Diego

[palmtreesforpleasure]

Hi Johnathon

They germinate easily compared to most chamaedorea, grow to full leaf stage quickly. When potting them up from the germination tray put them in deeper bigger pots immediately(than normal seedlings) as they are bigger than any others when young

regards

colin

[Phil]

I can make a few comments and show some pictures of Chamaedorea linearis. We had big specimen plants outdoors during the 2007 freeze (down to 25 degrees, but under shelter) and the linearis made it through. They are a tall, thick trunked, single stem species with unque coloration of the trunk and crown shaft. It seems each one looks a little bit different. The leaves are wide. They like shade. Which may be a problem if you have short canopy. This species might shoot through your canopy and then be in sun and not like it. They are good growers. The plants below were at least 12 feet tall. Here's some photos.

Phil

And here's the crownshaft of another specimen. You see how it looks a bit different than the one above?

[garrin]

C. linearis is a spectacular palm also for areas which receive little summer heat. I have seen linearis planted as understory plants in the Auckland, N.Z., area which at first glance I thought surely were archonophoenix. They do get that large -- large enough to fool at first look!

[Jonathan]

Hi Johnathon

They germinate easily compared to most chamaedorea, grow to full leaf stage quickly. When potting them up from the germination tray put them in deeper bigger pots immediately(than normal seedlings) as they are bigger than any others when young

regards

colin

Hi Colin,

Sorry, I missed this one earlier.

From the comments above, linearis would seem to be a good prospect for down here. I'm keeping an eye out for it.

Of the Chamadorea seeds you sent me, tepijilote, radicalis (trunking form) and costaricana have come up so far.

All the plants you sent are looking good too! C. adscendens is my favorite at the moment, love the leaf shape, plus its already flowering at 30cm tall!

Will call you about Qld. trip shortly.

Cheers,

Jonathan

[peachy]

I have a few species of Chamaedoreas, nothing rare, exotic or wonderful, except for my baby size C. tuerkheimii, but they all seem to be tough as old boots. Most of them are planted outdoors in fairly shaded and protected positions and all of them have survived a minus 5c freeze, although none were in the direct line of frost. I think they are so underated as a Genera. They are nearly all attractive, strong growers and pretty hard to kill. I have always recommended them to people who want to start growing a 'few pretty palms like yours'. Having said all of that i really should practice what I preach and get a few more species and perhaps some of the harder to find ones even more so.

Peachy

[peachy]

Hi Johnathon

They germinate easily compared to most chamaedorea, grow to full leaf stage quickly. When potting them up from the germination tray put them in deeper bigger pots immediately(than normal seedlings) as they are bigger than any others when young

regards

colin

Hi Colin,

Sorry, I missed this one earlier.

From the comments above, linearis would seem to be a good prospect for down here. I'm keeping an eye out for it.

Of the Chamadorea seeds you sent me, tepijilote, radicalis (trunking form) and costaricana have come up so far.

All the plants you sent are looking good too! C. adscendens is my favorite at the moment, love the leaf shape, plus its already flowering at 30cm tall!

Will call you about Qld. trip shortly.

Wait till the C. tepejilote grows a bit Jon, you will be ecstatic they are so pretty. I was repotting a badly rootbound one last year and snapped it off at soil level, nearly having heart failure at the same time. It had a few tiny stumps, the beginnings of aerial roots so I nicked those slightly, smeared some of the nicks with honey and some with striking hormone ( nothing like an each way bet) and watered it well and often. I also was liberal with the liquid seaweed too. As I dont get to boast about my horticultural activities often, forgive my bragging when I say that 9 months later it is alive and well.

Peachy

Cheers,

Jonathan

[gyuseppe]

are also born chamadorea oblongata and ernesti-augusti,but now are sprouting tepejilote and costaricana-seeds from Australia-thank you colin!

[Jonathan]

Wait till the C. tepejilote grows a bit Jon, you will be ecstatic they are so pretty. I was repotting a badly rootbound one last year and snapped it off at soil level, nearly having heart failure at the same time. It had a few tiny stumps, the beginnings of aerial roots so I nicked those slightly, smeared some of the nicks with honey and some with striking hormone ( nothing like an each way bet) and watered it well and often. I also was liberal with the liquid seaweed too. As I dont get to boast about my horticultural activities often, forgive my bragging when I say that 9 months later it is alive and well.

Peachy

Cheers,

Jonathan

Peaches and Cream,

I've already got a few biggies....here is a snap from a previous thread of mine about a stilt root experiment on C. tepejilote. The split yellow pots are filled with spagnum moss, it worked really well.

The seeds from Colin are a bonus, as now I can plant out some groups with varied crown heights.

Cheers,

Jonathan

[peachy]

yours is bigger than mine

[Jonathan]

yours is bigger than mine

So at the end of the day's play the scores remain thus: Tasmania - 1 point, Queensland - 450 million points

Cheers,

Jonathan

[malcthomas]

I have a linearis and a woodsonia growing beside each other and visually ( to me) they are the same palm. They are of opposite sex and have been flowering for a few years now and even with a bit of help there has never been a seed set...

cheers.

Malcolm

[peachy]

yours is bigger than mine

So at the end of the day's play the scores remain thus: Tasmania - 1 point, Queensland - 450 million points

Cheers,

Jonathan

A chilly 25c today Jon, with a frigid 11c predicted for tonight. How do we cope ? Meanwhile, before you take a wrist slashing break, do you have any Chamaedorea Nationsiana ? (corn cob palm) I have a couple of them, quite tough so far. The cold doesnt worry them at all. Just have to see how they handle summer.

Peachy

[Phil]

Malcolm,

There are similarities between linearis and woodsoniana. These are the thick trunk and long, somewhat wide leaflets. But, the pictures above of linearis compared to those below of woodsoniana will show you how to tell them apart. Don't just look at the leaflets. Look at the trunk, the length of the crownshaft, the color of the trunk and crownshaft and overall appearance. Linearis has a shorter lengthed, often mottled crown shaft (see photo above). The woodsoniana is longer, sleak, and uniform color. Also, the overall color of the trunk and crownshaft of the woodsoniana is darker (a very dark green color) if grown in filtered light. The mottled (yellow-green-occasionally cream and white) crown shaft of the linearis is unique to it and not to the woodsoniana. Also, the leaf color of the linearis is a bit more "limey" (not as dark). I hope this helps.

Phil

[PalmatierMeg]

Two more Chams I must acquire. My Cham seeds from Colin are also germinating. Thanks again, Colin.

[JasonD]

Chamaedorea linearis is very successful at the San Francisco Botanical Garden in deep shade, where it has endured temperatures at least into the low 30s F and grows steadily through our chilly summers (54F/12.2c and overcast at 9:45AM today, with a predicted high of 61F/16c). A nice, robust alternative to Chamaedorea tepejilote, which simply declines, or Ch. woodsoniana, which is slow, though exquisitely beautiful.

[PalmatierMeg]

Chamaedorea linearis is very successful at the San Francisco Botanical Garden in deep shade, where it has endured temperatures at least into the low 30s F and grows steadily through our chilly summers (54F/12.2c and overcast at 9:45AM today, with a predicted high of 61F/16c). A nice, robust alternative to Chamaedorea tepejilote, which simply declines, or Ch. woodsoniana, which is slow, though exquisitely beautiful.

Uh-oh. Sounds like this is a cool-weather Cham that will wilt & die in 6-7 months of 90+F days & 70+F nights. Oh well.

[malcthomas]

Phil..

Thanks. colouration is clearly a difference...

regards...Malcolm..

Malcolm,

There are similarities between linearis and woodsoniana. These are the thick trunk and long, somewhat wide leaflets. But, the pictures above of linearis compared to those below of woodsoniana will show you how to tell them apart. Don't just look at the leaflets. Look at the trunk, the length of the crownshaft, the color of the trunk and crownshaft and overall appearance. Linearis has a shorter lengthed, often mottled crown shaft (see photo above). The woodsoniana is longer, sleak, and uniform color. Also, the overall color of the trunk and crownshaft of the woodsoniana is darker (a very dark green color) if grown in filtered light. The mottled (yellow-green-occasionally cream and white) crown shaft of the linearis is unique to it and not to the woodsoniana. Also, the leaf color of the linearis is a bit more "limey" (not as dark). I hope this helps.

Phil

[palmtreesforpleasure]

Thought i would male a comment on Chamaedorea Linearis now a few years more experience of growing them has shown

C woodsoniana and C.tepejilote are much hardier than C. Linearis.

C. Linearis seems much more temperamental, Seedlings have rotted off, have bent over up to 80cm in height. The leaves are much softer than C.woodsoniana and C.tepejilote

Having said the above , i still like this Chamaedorea as it can be an attractive addition to the collection.

This is a Chamaedorea i have struggled with for some reason, would like to hear from others about their growing experiences with them ie Planted on a slope, good drainage or does it like wet feet etc

regards

Colin

[Tassie_Troy1971]

I saw some big Chamaedorea linearis at Rick luna's garden but didnt take any pics !

[Gary]

I have a linearis and a woodsonia growing beside each other and visually ( to me) they are the same palm. They are of opposite sex and have been flowering for a few years now and even with a bit of help there has never been a seed set...

cheers.

Malcolm

Malcolm seed of these 2 are quite different in shape and size and if seen together it wouldbe easy to tell.I believe Ben has clumping form linearis.

Gary

[palmtreesforpleasure]

I have a linearis and a woodsonia growing beside each other and visually ( to me) they are the same palm. They are of opposite sex and have been flowering for a few years now and even with a bit of help there has never been a seed set...

cheers.

Malcolm

Malcolm seed of these 2 are quite different in shape and size and if seen together it wouldbe easy to tell.I believe Ben has clumping form linearis.

Gary

Hello Gary

What growing conditions are they in? and a clumping form? i have not heard of that before, Any chance of getting some pictures of that form

regards

Colin

[Gary]

I have a linearis and a woodsonia growing beside each other and visually ( to me) they are the same palm. They are of opposite sex and have been flowering for a few years now and even with a bit of help there has never been a seed set...

cheers.

Malcolm

Malcolm seed of these 2 are quite different in shape and size and if seen together it wouldbe easy to tell.I believe Ben has clumping form linearis.

Gary

Hello Gary

What growing conditions are they in? and a clumping form? i have not heard of that before, Any chance of getting some pictures of that form

regards

Colin

I have only seen single truck forms myself but when selling some seeds a few years back was asked if single or clumping.The person said they brought some seedlings local nz and said they turned out as clumpers.A hybrid maybe??My own linearis are growing in shade from sun but still quite light.

[palmtreesforpleasure]

Hi Gary

It took me many years to get some seed and have made a real effort to ensure their survival. Your garden looks a little like mine in the density of the planting and those linearis look very healthy.

Being in New Zealand i gather temperature would be lower than here. Our minimum is about 6c at night in the winter 15c during the day. and about 26 c during summer , we do get some hot days over 30 but not often due to our closeness to the ocean.

Have you planted them on a slope or flat ground, how moist is the soil,

I planted seedlings in the ground in 2 locations out of 8 planted only 3 survived. Have about 6 bigger ones in pots that are doing very well in a friends shade house. His temperatures get down to 1c and above 30 in summer

I grow over 50 species of Chamaedorea, this one appears to be my challenge and so i have to solve the issue as getting seed again may not happen,

any input will be appreciated

regards

Colin

[Gary]

Linearis is not that hard toget here and there are a number that set seed.No one really wants them here.Been the seedbank distributor here for local palm/cycad soc since the mid90s I have dealt with alot of seed both local and imported.I know at least 2 people here who have collected seed of chamaedorea from habitats in the 80s and 90s.I have a number of the more unusually one myself from these people.I willbe at Lansendt tomorrow and will take some photos of their linearis which did have several 100 seed a few months back but wouldbe rat food by now.

[Phil]

Group,

I read and contributed to this thread back in 2009 and have re-read it again. When I look at the photos at the top of this page, I assume those were the discussed seedlings of Chamaedorea linearis. But, to my eye, they do not appear to even be a Chamaedorea.

They look more like some type of fan palm. Maybe I misunderstood the original message.

Phil

[Ampli]

Giuseppe, congratulations for your collections!!! It expand like a rocket!!!

[Ampli]

Are the plants in the post #1 Chamaedorea Linearis???

Sorry for my unknowing, but I suppose all Chamaedorea seedling have bifid leaves.

[gyuseppe]

This is a photo of my Chamaedorea linearis of 2 years ago !

those in photos in l post are hybrids phoenix roebelenii x reclinata

I have done nothing !I do not understand how the photos have moved ?

[Gary]

Attached pic is local to me, fruiting linearis,Got to beat rats and birds to the seed as it ripens

[JasonD]

Attached pic is local to me, fruiting linearis,Got to beat rats and birds to the seed as it ripens

That's spectacular!

The very happy one at the San Francisco Botanical Garden lost most of its roots, presumably to rot -- it's in a wet spot. It's been replanted and the apical bud continues to grow. It's been joined by a second one but they're both exposed to too much sunshine and are not healthy.

I've planted three tiny ones (a gift from Darold Petty) in my backyard in shade and they've been slow to start but have suffered a bit from kids' roughhousing and chickens' browsing. We'll see how they fare through the winter. I suspect they'll appreciate the rain but might resent the gloomy cold.

[Gary]

a male plant growing in the open and very untidy