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Feral Pig Damage

Mr Cycad

By Mr Cycad
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Mr Cycad

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Group - Some feral pig damage up at my farm last weekend...

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Cheers, Kurt

Kurt

Living the dream in the Rainforest - Average annual rainfall over 4000 mm a year!!!

aussiearoids Grand Master

aussiearoids

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Damn , they dug out your neurophyllidia ! You really need to put up a low electric fence .

I have seen what they can do when they get going , it looks like a rotary hoe has been run over the ground several times .

Mate at nearbye Whyanbeel uses a fence about 30 cms high and it seems to keep the porkers scared .

Michael in palm paradise,

Tully, wet tropics in Australia, over 4 meters of rain every year.

Home of the Golden Gumboot, its over 8m high , our record annual rainfall.

OldNed Collaborator

OldNed

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Kurt...Is that a Bowenia spectabilis and some Blue Quandong fruit?

Wow-farming in the Daintree in a Licuala ramsayi forest!, I can only drool! :drool:

A couple of my old posts re your slice of Paradise:

Daintree River and Foxtail...

http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?sh...6&hl=OldNed (post #15)

And a thread about Avatar origins...(Helga will gladly give you seeds)

http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?sh...atten&st=80 (post#97)

Merritt Island, Florida 32952

28º21'06.15"N 80º40'03.75"W

Zone 9b-10a

4-5 feet above sea level

Four miles inland

No freeze since '89...Damn!-since 2nd week of Jan., 2010

Mr Cycad Community Regular

Mr Cycad

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Kurt...Is that a Bowenia spectabilis and some Blue Quandong fruit?

Wow-farming in the Daintree in a Licuala ramsayi forest!, I can only drool! :drool:

A couple of my old posts re your slice of Paradise:

Daintree River and Foxtail...

http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?sh...6&hl=OldNed (post #15)

And a thread about Avatar origins...(Helga will gladly give you seeds)

http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?sh...atten&st=80 (post#97)

Hi Old Ned.

No, that's a Zamia neurophyllidia actually. Yes, that's Blue Quandong fruit.

The pigs are only uprooting what I plant - they haven't touched anything existing.

Interesting posts there too...

Cheers, Kurt

Kurt

Living the dream in the Rainforest - Average annual rainfall over 4000 mm a year!!!

Mr Cycad Community Regular

Mr Cycad

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Damn , they dug out your neurophyllidia ! You really need to put up a low electric fence .

I have seen what they can do when they get going , it looks like a rotary hoe has been run over the ground several times .

Mate at nearbye Whyanbeel uses a fence about 30 cms high and it seems to keep the porkers scared .

Hi Michael.

Damn Indeed.

Most weeks something has been dug up... see below 3 uprooted Encephalartos villosus.

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I've been meaning to make an appointment and check out the Whyanbeel Arboretum...

I really have to do something about these pigs...

Thanks, Kurt

Kurt

Living the dream in the Rainforest - Average annual rainfall over 4000 mm a year!!!

_Keith Grand Master

_Keith

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I wish I had some feral pig damage. I love to eat pork.

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ariscott Grand Master

ariscott

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You don't want to eat these... Keith...

Kurt,

I use those white electrical tape around my fence to keep the dogs in and the other animals out. It seems to work. Do you have fence around your property?

Regards, Ari :)

Ari & Scott

Darwin, NT, Australia

-12°32'53" 131°10'20"

aussiearoids Grand Master

aussiearoids

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Peter does not use electric fence on his property , the pigs do not worry him to much . He used to keep a pet one , 'Miss Piggy' he rescued from local pig hunters . She was chained up under the row of Ingas and got fed all of the trimmings from the flower pic , and excess fruit .

A little farther up the road near Botanical Ark they are a bit worse , thats were the electric fence is .

Here you can see it running along the entrance of the property , and a nice Arenga undulatifolia.

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Michael in palm paradise,

Tully, wet tropics in Australia, over 4 meters of rain every year.

Home of the Golden Gumboot, its over 8m high , our record annual rainfall.

Palmə häl′ik Veteran

Palmə häl′ik

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Start feedin' em. I'll betcha if you set up a feeder, they'll stay clear of your stuff...

They'll taste good. Nothin' a little CajunInjector can't handle...

Have you seen them? Do they have tusks on 'em yet?

How 'bout some wall mounts? :)

~Ray.

Brandon, FL

27.95°N 82.28°W (Elev. 62 ft)

Zone9 w/ canopy

Walter John Grand Master

Walter John

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You're gonna need a bigger truck.... :unsure:

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Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

Mr Cycad Community Regular

Mr Cycad

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You don't want to eat these... Keith...

Kurt,

I use those white electrical tape around my fence to keep the dogs in and the other animals out. It seems to work. Do you have fence around your property?

Regards, Ari :)

Hi Ari.

I don't have a fence around the property at all and we're not allowed too either because we're in the so-called conservation zone.

All said, I think that would be alright for the pigs. More really needs to be done to control them.

Cheers, Kurt

Kurt

Living the dream in the Rainforest - Average annual rainfall over 4000 mm a year!!!

Mr Cycad Community Regular

Mr Cycad

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Peter does not use electric fence on his property , the pigs do not worry him to much . He used to keep a pet one , 'Miss Piggy' he rescued from local pig hunters . She was chained up under the row of Ingas and got fed all of the trimmings from the flower pic , and excess fruit .

A little farther up the road near Botanical Ark they are a bit worse , thats were the electric fence is .

Here you can see it running along the entrance of the property , and a nice Arenga undulatifolia.

Ah ha!

Thanks Michael.

I think that's what I'll have to do with the fence situation.

Great shot of the Arenga... I've got as few seedlings which I'm yet to plant...

Cheers, Kurt

Kurt

Living the dream in the Rainforest - Average annual rainfall over 4000 mm a year!!!

Mr Cycad Community Regular

Mr Cycad

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Start feedin' em. I'll betcha if you set up a feeder, they'll stay clear of your stuff...

They'll taste good. Nothin' a little CajunInjector can't handle...

Have you seen them? Do they have tusks on 'em yet?

How 'bout some wall mounts? :)

~Ray.

Lol, are you serious?

I haven't seen them directly on my block, but I've heard them kicking around, camping overnight. Also seen a few around driving place to place. They caught 64 pigs in Cow Bay alone in June - its pretty wild!!! There's a council trap on the block next door currently also. They're very cunning indeed. A friend up the road builds up piles of coconuts and shoots at them off his veranda! He actually shoots more of his veranda that what he gets in the traps! Yea they have tusks.

I'm not keen on the wall mounts. Neither is the missus.

Cheers, Kurt

Kurt

Living the dream in the Rainforest - Average annual rainfall over 4000 mm a year!!!

Mr Cycad Community Regular

Mr Cycad

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You're gonna need a bigger truck.... :unsure:

Lol, the rodeo will be alright!

Kurt

Living the dream in the Rainforest - Average annual rainfall over 4000 mm a year!!!

aussiearoids Grand Master

aussiearoids

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Kenneth Cook , a great Australian author , best known for the movie of the book 'Wake in Fright'..

also wrote 'PIG' very scary ... Razorback may be loosly based on his work .

MAn Underground , is xclnt , as is 'Play Little Victims' [ look in the childs section for this ]

Michael in palm paradise,

Tully, wet tropics in Australia, over 4 meters of rain every year.

Home of the Golden Gumboot, its over 8m high , our record annual rainfall.

Palmə häl′ik Veteran

Palmə häl′ik

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Your wild boars can't be more gamier than ours?

Corn feed them.

I'm sure once the new litters start feeding on your corn...

They'll taste different... Less gamier.

Nope, no wall mount'd hogs here. But I have seen 'em.

~Ray.

Brandon, FL

27.95°N 82.28°W (Elev. 62 ft)

Zone9 w/ canopy

Walter John Grand Master

Walter John

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I'll put NQ razorbacks up against Florida piglets any day baby, bring it on.

:lol:

Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

peachy Grand Master

peachy

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Kurt if you are not allowed to fence then what about a portable electric tape ? Little plastic posts that hold it at the right height and a car battery to run it. It's completely removable and shouldnt affect any bylaws or whatever.

Peachy

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_Keith Grand Master

_Keith

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Your wild boars can't be more gamier than ours?

Corn feed them.

I'm sure once the new litters start feeding on your corn...

They'll taste different... Less gamier.

Nope, no wall mount'd hogs here. But I have seen 'em.

~Ray.

Wall mount'd hogs. Don't waste that meat. Haven't you heard of hog's head cheese, lol.

In my post I sometimes express "my" opinion. Warning, it may differ from "your" opinion. If so, please do not feel insulted, just state your own if you wish. Any data in this post is provided 'as is' and in no event shall I be liable for any damages, including, without limitation, damages resulting from accuracy or lack thereof, insult, or any other damages

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Cycadcenter

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You don't want to eat these... Keith...

Kurt,

I use those white electrical tape around my fence to keep the dogs in and the other animals out. It seems to work. Do you have fence around your property?

Regards, Ari :)

Hi Ari.

I don't have a fence around the property at all and we're not allowed too either because we're in the so-called conservation zone.

All said, I think that would be alright for the pigs. More really needs to be done to control them.

Cheers, Kurt

Kurt

What is your PMAV Status? I'm surprised if you are in a conservation area that you would be able to clear and plant non native species.

Bruce

Now living the life in Childers, Queensland.

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Mr Cycad

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What is your PMAV Status? I'm surprised if you are in a conservation area that you would be able to clear and plant non native species.

Bruce

Hi Bruce.

Firstly, for the record, I haven't cleared anything and don't ever plan to. I'm actually in the process of re-planting the existing clearing (all with natives of course which I have grown myself from seed), which was done with the right permits by the previous owner many years ago now before I bought the block. I had previously ruled out using the electric fence option because of the thick existing vegetation earthing it out...

PMAV meaning Property Map of Assessable Vegetation? I don't have that info right now, but I do have a RE Map handy... And as such, the block is zoned 'Dominant - 2003 Remnant of concern regional ecosystem'. This is where to controversy starts...

The National Parks/Conservation Area State Forest boundaries are literally at the rear of the outlying properties in the township! So you could say we are surrounded by the conservation zone, not in it? Yea? Cow Bay has a main road which goes right down to the beach from the highway to Cape Tribulation. Given this, the wildlife corridor on the eastern side of the highway has been severed! Rainforest Rescue has bought back a few blocks and so has the government trying to address this situation. Council has also removed any development rights of all the remaining undeveloped blocks. I think that's a fair call and I'm glad action is being taken to protect this truly special place.

Cheers, Kurt

Kurt

Living the dream in the Rainforest - Average annual rainfall over 4000 mm a year!!!

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Cycadcenter

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What is your PMAV Status? I'm surprised if you are in a conservation area that you would be able to clear and plant non native species.

Bruce

Hi Bruce.

Firstly, for the record, I haven't cleared anything and don't ever plan to. I'm actually in the process of re-planting the existing clearing (all with natives of course which I have grown myself from seed), which was done with the right permits by the previous owner many years ago now before I bought the block. I had previously ruled out using the electric fence option because of the thick existing vegetation earthing it out...

PMAV meaning Property Map of Assessable Vegetation? I don't have that info right now, but I do have a RE Map handy... And as such, the block is zoned 'Dominant - 2003 Remnant of concern regional ecosystem'. This is where to controversy starts...

The National Parks/Conservation Area State Forest boundaries are literally at the rear of the outlying properties in the township! So you could say we are surrounded by the conservation zone, not in it? Yea? Cow Bay has a main road which goes right down to the beach from the highway to Cape Tribulation. Given this, the wildlife corridor on the eastern side of the highway has been severed! Rainforest Rescue has bought back a few blocks and so has the government trying to address this situation. Council has also removed any development rights of all the remaining undeveloped blocks. I think that's a fair call and I'm glad action is being taken to protect this truly special place.

Cheers, Kurt

Kurt,

I'd suggest you check out your current PMAV status of your property, since they came out a few months ago many landowners have found out that even their cleared cultivation areas are pink or blue zones let alone the red zones. I know I'm one of them and it's taking a lot of work to have some blue zones changed back to white. Did you know that you can "lock in" your current PMAV Status by October for about $320.00.

If your property is in the red or pink zones you practically can't touch it which includes adding non native species such as Encephalartos and Zamia.

Bruce

Now living the life in Childers, Queensland.

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Mr Cycad

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Kurt,

I'd suggest you check out your current PMAV status of your property, since they came out a few months ago many landowners have found out that even their cleared cultivation areas are pink or blue zones let alone the red zones. I know I'm one of them and it's taking a lot of work to have some blue zones changed back to white. Did you know that you can "lock in" your current PMAV Status by October for about $320.00.

If your property is in the red or pink zones you practically can't touch it which includes adding non native species such as Encephalartos and Zamia.

Bruce

Hi again Bruce.

Wow - do you have a block in the Daintree also?

Thanks for the advice, I will get onto it ASAP.

Cheers, Kurt

Kurt

Living the dream in the Rainforest - Average annual rainfall over 4000 mm a year!!!

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Cycadcenter

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Hi Kurt,

No, we don't have any land in the Daintree but have some farms in the Childers-Bundy area.

When I was over last month I went and saw Natural Resources and they explained it all to me as I have the following situations.

One block of 40 acres is used for tomato production with about 5 acres of uncleared bush which is in the Pink Zone, this "maybe" able to be cleared with an environmental study costing 10's of thousands of $$$ which is not worth it. Pink Zone means you still can't touch it.

Another tomato block has a drainage easement down one side which is in the Blue Zone, which means you have to let it regenerate with native species, even if it means interfering with the designed drainage.

Our home farm has a "perceived" watercourse which is in the Blue Zone, this is a pasture paddock with improved pasture and I'm not allowed to remove any native regeneration in the area.

We have hired a "vegetation consultant" from Hervey Bay to do our submission to have some of the Blue Zone removed and converted back to White Zone.

I think it may be worth a trip down to Cairns to see Natural Resources as the fines for doing the wrong thing are VERY HEAFTY. The figure of $150,000 was mentioned to me.

Regards

Bruce

Now living the life in Childers, Queensland.

metalfan Grand Master

metalfan

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I feel for you. We have feral pigs on our property. They are extremely destructive. They have spoiled many things in my yard and those of my neighbors, as well as threatened my 14 year old and our dogs. Some of the sows are huge and have the big recurved tusks.

We put up with it for as long as we could, then this year, ourselves and our neighbors banded together and got some bow hunters and some trappers to come out and start picking them off. They like to hunt them for the meat so they will do it for free. They have been shooting a few with rifles as well.

"You can't see California without Marlon Brando's eyes"---SliPknot

 

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