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The Explosive Growth of........Jubaea chilensis?

Perito

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Perito Experienced

Perito

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Well O.K., as a seedling they grow about as fast as Continental Drift; You'd be lucky to progress one into a 15 Gallon container in the 1st five years of life. Once they get going in the ground though, they can grow very quickly. I thought I'd post some progression photos of mine, which is planted as the centerpiece of my front yard.

Here are the photos of planting day- 1-31-03----

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Perry Glenn

SLO Palms

(805) 550-2708

http://www.slopalms.com

newtothis Rising Star

newtothis

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these are quickly ranking up there with my favorites with CIDP. very nice!

osideterry Grand Master

osideterry

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That's really impressive... is that normal? What a beauty.

Zone 9b/10a, Sunset Zone 22

7 miles inland. Elevation 120ft (37m)

Average annual low temp: 30F (-1C)

Average annual rainfall: 8" (20cm)

PalmatierMeg Grand Master

PalmatierMeg

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Beautiful palm. Wish I could grow one.

Meg

Palms of Victory I shall wear

Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise)
Florida
Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal
Elevation: 15 feet

I'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade.

PalmGuyWC Grand Master

PalmGuyWC

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Perry,

It's nice to see the progress of the growth of a Jubaea. I planted mine so long ago I had forgetten what they looked like as juviniles. Your photos prove that they aren't as slow growing as many think and they can be nice looking even when young. Yours looks very healthy and robust.

Dick

Richard Douglas

Perito Experienced

Perito

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Terry,

I'm not sure about normal, but it has outpaced everything else I planted around the same time. It puts out at least a new leaf per month and I can see the enlargement of the base from month to month.

Thank you Dick, I think Jubaeas don't mind the cool weather here. I know from reading some of your posts that you're in a hotter area; did your trees grow very quickly in the younger stages? Perry

Perry Glenn

SLO Palms

(805) 550-2708

http://www.slopalms.com

PalmGuyWC Grand Master

PalmGuyWC

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Perry,

As I said, it was so long ago when I planted mine I don't remember how they grew. I planted a lot of palms about the same time when I was starting my garden so I didn't pay them any particular attention. Even though I have hot days in the summer, I have cool nights and then it's cool all winter. I expect you get just enough winter chill to make yours happy.

Dick

Richard Douglas

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BS Man about Palms

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Those are some great pics of your baby, Perry!

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

DoomsDave Grand Master

DoomsDave

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Yours is much much faster than mine, so far.

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iamjv

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Amazing palms and growth.... Jv

Jv in San Antonio Texas / Zone 8/extremes past 29 yrs: 117F (47.2C) / 8F (-13.3C)

Kris Grand Master

Kris

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:drool::yay::drool: Thanks for the visuals...the visual man(me) very happy ! :)

Lots of love to your palm,

Kris :drool::yay:

By the way perry in the first still in post no.1 there are 2 prominent looking heavy trunks which resemble like roman pillars,If iam not wrong is it Queen palm variety ? :hmm: And if so boy they are massive and well taken care of and i would call them 'Jamboo'.And iam sure you know to grow palms in the best possible way and your fertz brands & their schedules are perfect ! :greenthumb: So its not a surprise that all your palms are growing fine and that too healthy putting out maximum performance ! :winkie:

love conquers all..

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Perito Experienced

Perito

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Here are updated photos of this tree (1-9-11). Almost 8 years in the ground; it's still really growing fast!

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Perry Glenn

SLO Palms

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iamjv Mentor

iamjv

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That is one happy Jub!!! Green with envy here.... :sick: Jv

Jv in San Antonio Texas / Zone 8/extremes past 29 yrs: 117F (47.2C) / 8F (-13.3C)

Tassie_Troy1971 Grand Master

Tassie_Troy1971

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Here are updated photos of this tree (1-9-11). Almost 8 years in the ground; it's still really growing fast!

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Looks fantastic amazing growth ! :drool:

Mine have just germinated from seed collected from the Jubaea at Mission Bay San Diego last september .

Old Beach ,Hobart
Tasmania ,Australia. 42 " south
Cool Maritime climate

mjff Mentor

mjff

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Here are updated photos of this tree (1-9-11). Almost 8 years in the ground; it's still really growing fast!

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Looks fantastic amazing growth ! :drool:

Mine have just germinated from seed collected from the Jubaea at Mission Bay San Diego last september .

Now you know what yours will look like 15 years from now if you put them in the ground soon. :mrlooney:

Beautiful tree Perry! I hope the ones I planted in 100 gallon bags in real dirt in my nursery grow as fast. I'd be ecstatic to be able to sell them at that size 8 years from now. How fat is the trunk?

Martin Farris, San Angelo, TX

San Angelo Cold Hardy Palms and Cycads

Jul - 92F/69F, Jan - 55F/31F

Lows:

02-03: 18F;

03-04: 19F;

04-05: 17F;

05-06: 11F;

06-07: 13F;

07-08: 14F 147.5 Freezing Degree-Hours http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?sh...ee+hours\;

08-09: 23F;

09-10: 12F 467.6 Freezing Degree Hours, Average Temperature During Freeze 24.2F;

10-11: 13F 1,059.5 Freezing Degree Hours with Strong Winds/Rain/Snow/Sleet, Average Temperature During Freeze 19.4F;

Record low -4F in 1989 (High of 36F that p.m.) 1,125.2 freezing degree hours, Average Temperature During Freeze 13.6F;

Record Freeze 1983: 2,300.3 Freezing Degree Hours with a low of 5F, Average Temperature During Freeze 13.7F.

Perito Experienced

Perito

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Thanks Jv- Sounds like you need to start out with at least a large 15 Gallon since the smaller ones aren't working out.

Troy, They seem to hit a rough period after about 2 years. I've had quite a few turn the spear sort of sideways and even spear loss at that point. I was told they are succeptable to mites, so I've been treating for that even though I can't see 'em, and it seems to help. Once past that stage, they seem pretty bulletproof.

Martin, I had to go measure :lol: . It's real close to 3' in diameter and 8'-8" in circumferance.

Perry

Perry Glenn

SLO Palms

(805) 550-2708

http://www.slopalms.com

BS Man about Palms Grand Master

BS Man about Palms

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Perry- Love to see your big growth... I figured heres a good place to put mine too.. But poor early record keeping prevents good pictures... I've noticed I don't tend to take pictures of the palms that grow without problems! I guess the other palms grow so slow its more of an acheivement... ?

Anyway, I marked a pic with my Jubea in the background from July 2005... It probably had not been in the ground 6 months yet...maybe less. Could not have been more than 6" accross, probably 5".. (the howea is blocking the leaves, but you can see the base...

You may also note it was the first of my "mound plantings". Also no box, but I have chicken wire under there...

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This was taken from a different angle this morning... 5 1/2 years later...

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

BS Man about Palms Grand Master

BS Man about Palms

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That's looking good Bill! I like the twisty leaf look that yours has.

Yeah Perry, I don't think about until someone mentions it, but I like the look too.... Thanks

Oh yeah, heres a trunkal region shot too

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

Mark M @ S. Oceanside palms Collaborator

Mark M @ S. Oceanside palms

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My Jubea was 13+ years old in a 15 gallon when planted 2.5 years ago and has doubled in size every year since planted! I dug a 4' deep hole for it, so it better!

That's looking good Bill! I like the twisty leaf look that yours has.

Yeah Perry, I don't think about until someone mentions it, but I like the look too.... Thanks

Oh yeah, heres a trunkal region shot too

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MM

monkeyranch Rising Star

monkeyranch

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BS Man-

Wow, that Jub must of been hungry, it ate the Honda, driveway and all. :mrlooney:

_Keith Grand Master

_Keith

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Here are updated photos of this tree (1-9-11). Almost 8 years in the ground; it's still really growing fast!

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That's pretty incredible growth. Got anything else to share, fertilizer, other care techniques.

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BS Man about Palms Grand Master

BS Man about Palms

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The funny thing I have seemed to notice about most of them that grow well is they like heavy soil (once to 15 gal size and cool nights... then stand back...

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

Jubaea Rising Star

Jubaea

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Thanks for posting the pictures. I'm surprised at how quickly those are growing, not that I have much experiance with them. My oldest is about 3 years old from seed and growing so slowly. I still need to find a place to plant it in ground. This is mine from September 2010. Biggest Jubaea

nomolos Mentor

nomolos

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really fast growing once they become pinnate it seems - nice

Sol Cooper

Hobart Tasmania

42 degrees South

Mild climate - mostly frost free

Perito Experienced

Perito

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The first 2 to 5 years after germination Jubaeas are s-l-o-w. Once you get one growing good it takes some real adverse conditions to slow them down.

Keith-I'm real conservative with fertilizers, especially with Jubaeas and more especially with Jubaeas in containers. The only other advise I could give is that once you get one looking very healthy in the container, get it into the ground!

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Perry Glenn

SLO Palms

(805) 550-2708

http://www.slopalms.com

mjff Mentor

mjff

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really fast growing once they become pinnate it seems - nice

Even once they are pinnate they are ridiculously slow if you are growing them in potting soil. They want to be in the ground.

Martin Farris, San Angelo, TX

San Angelo Cold Hardy Palms and Cycads

Jul - 92F/69F, Jan - 55F/31F

Lows:

02-03: 18F;

03-04: 19F;

04-05: 17F;

05-06: 11F;

06-07: 13F;

07-08: 14F 147.5 Freezing Degree-Hours http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?sh...ee+hours\;

08-09: 23F;

09-10: 12F 467.6 Freezing Degree Hours, Average Temperature During Freeze 24.2F;

10-11: 13F 1,059.5 Freezing Degree Hours with Strong Winds/Rain/Snow/Sleet, Average Temperature During Freeze 19.4F;

Record low -4F in 1989 (High of 36F that p.m.) 1,125.2 freezing degree hours, Average Temperature During Freeze 13.6F;

Record Freeze 1983: 2,300.3 Freezing Degree Hours with a low of 5F, Average Temperature During Freeze 13.7F.

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Jastin Veteran

Jastin

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That thing is massive! Now I have to find me one!

Grateful to have what I have, Les amis de mes amis sont mes amis!

Tassie_Troy1971 Grand Master

Tassie_Troy1971

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This goes against the myth that Jubaea are one of the slower palms .

Really great thread ,also what are you feeding her ?

Old Beach ,Hobart
Tasmania ,Australia. 42 " south
Cool Maritime climate

Sutter Bob Proficient

Sutter Bob

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Looks great Perry,

The three I got from you a year and a half ago are all in the ground and ready to take off in a few more years!

BS Man about Palms Grand Master

BS Man about Palms

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That thing is massive! Now I have to find me one!

PM me Jastin.. I'll sell the sister to mine for what I have in it :D

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

BS Man about Palms Grand Master

BS Man about Palms

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Perry, thats looking great... the top of my Jubea is fighting to be the tallest in my yard... and it sssoooooo wants to start trunking.. I think mine must be just under 8 years old (in the ground)...

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

PANGEA EXPRESS Rising Star

PANGEA EXPRESS

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jeeez Good thing im starting young. Im going to be a grandfather by the time i can sit under and enjoy my Jubaea. :indifferent:

- Eric Arneson

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