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Hey, I picked up a liner size of Ravenea sambiranensis from the raffle table at the SoCal palm meeting today.  I can find limited information on it.  Anyone growing it??  I've found photos in Nong Nooch, Hawaii, and Vista -- the last being pretty close to home, very encouraging.

--How would you care for his liner size over the winter?

--What size would you want to see it before planting it out in the garden?  (I like to plant everything prontissimo, but I realize this is not always advisable.)

Thanks,

Kim

Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
All characters  in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

Posted

I have a number of them, and haven't had much luck in the garden.  

They don't seem to like the sun.

Here's a picture of one, a little bigger:

(Usual size-12 shoe)

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And a close-up of the base:

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Posted

They don't seem to like my clay soil much.  They just kind of peter out, though, I think they'll like your place better because of the higher humidity, near the ocean and all.

Plant it, in the shade, or filtered sun (probably better) and let us know . . .

dave

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Posted

I'm in North San Diego County and I've got em outside underneath 60% shadecloth in a one gallon pot Kim...I just bumped them up from liner size about two months ago...

Not going to do anything special to protect them..I think they'll be fine.

I'd bump it to a deep gallon size pot right now if the roots are coming out of the bottom of the liner and wait until it's larger before you do anything else with it...if you feel you have to put it in the ground I'd wait until the beginning of next April to do it...less risky.

Posted

(tropicalb @ Nov. 18 2006,22:31)

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I'm in North San Diego County and I've got em outside underneath 60% shadecloth in a one gallon pot Kim...I just bumped them up from liner size about two months ago...

Not going to do anything special to protect them..I think they'll be fine.

I'd bump it to a deep gallon size pot right now if the roots are coming out of the bottom of the liner and wait until it's larger before you do anything else with it...if you feel you have to put it in the ground I'd wait until the beginning of next April to do it...less risky.

Sounds like good advice to me. I would get them into a 1gallon pot before I would consider planting this in the ground. And good shade!

   Jeff

Searle Brothers Nursery Inc.

and The Rainforest Collection.

Southwest Ranches,Fl.

Posted

(Kim @ Nov. 18 2006,19:12)

QUOTE
Hey, I picked up a liner size of Ravenea sambiranensis from the raffle table at the SoCal palm meeting today.  I can find limited information on it.  Anyone growing it??  I've found photos in Nong Nooch, Hawaii, and Vista -- the last being pretty close to home, very encouraging.

--How would you care for his liner size over the winter?

--What size would you want to see it before planting it out in the garden?  (I like to plant everything prontissimo, but I realize this is not always advisable.)

Thanks,

Kim

Kim- I never did see what you left with today! I did see quite a little growing pile of palms in your direction!!!  :D

(I only got one small poke when loading that massive Pandanus.  Should heal quick.)    :P

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

Posted

Hi Kim,

Don't know if you ever check the plant files at "Daves Garden", but they have info and pics. Here is a link for their info on Ravenea sambiranensis

Daves Garden

Good luck,

Scott

Scott

San Fernando Valley, California

Sunset Climate Zone 18

Posted

Thanks, all.  Yes, the roots are coming out the bottom of the liner, so I will pot it up and keep it out of direct sun.  I will probably delay planting for at least 18 months.

Bill that pandanus looked like a spiny octopus to me!  You'll get at least 2 more chances to wrestle with it-- when you unload it, and when you plant it.  Have fun!

Hey Scott, did you make it to the meeting?

Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
All characters  in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

Posted

(Kim @ Nov. 19 2006,10:47)

QUOTE
Thanks, all.  Yes, the roots are coming out the bottom of the liner, so I will pot it up and keep it out of direct sun.  I will probably delay planting for at least 18 months.

Bill that pandanus looked like a spiny octopus to me!  You'll get at least 2 more chances to wrestle with it-- when you unload it, and when you plant it.  Have fun!

Hey Scott, did you make it to the meeting?

Bill doesn't plant things...I think he doesn't know how.

I'm not sure if he's collecting palms or the cute black pots they come in...

If global warming means I can grow Cocos Nucifera, then bring it on....

Posted

I planted a one gallon last April in almost full sun and has kept plugging along not to fast yet not to slow with a tiny bit of leaf burn on tips of the oldest leaves. If I had to do it over again I would have waited to at least a three gallon and planted it in a shadier spot.

                                            Shon

San Marcos CA

Posted

(Shon @ Nov. 19 2006,14:18)

QUOTE
I planted a one gallon last April in almost full sun and has kept plugging along not to fast yet not to slow with a tiny bit of leaf burn on tips of the oldest leaves. If I had to do it over again I would have waited to at least a three gallon and planted it in a shadier spot.

                                            Shon

Shon,

    You might want to errect a small little piece of shadecloth over it until it gets a little stronger. Something to consider.

  Jeff

Searle Brothers Nursery Inc.

and The Rainforest Collection.

Southwest Ranches,Fl.

Posted

Kim, this is a fantastic palm and it will grow well for you, but not at the size you purchased. I have one now in a seven gallon pot and I am waiting as well. You should plant it when it reaches 15 gallon size and about five to six feet tall. I know this is tough to be patient, but over the years I have learned that in our climate, whether on the coast or inland, the palms struggle for many years in the ground. If you plant larger palms you will be very successful. Ravenea Sambiranensis is a beauty, I have seen one in So Cal that is about 10 feet tall now and doing well.

Gary

Rock Ridge Ranch

South Escondido

5 miles ENE Rancho Bernardo

33.06N 117W, Elevation 971 Feet

Posted

Kim,

yes, this will be a big palm - one day! Here's one of mine. Unfortunately the surrounding palms have been a little bit faster so the sambiranensis is pretty shaded at this point. And that doesn't mean the sambiranensis is slow!! The sambiranensis in the center of the photo.

Bo-Göran

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Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

Posted

Kim - you're a good candidate for that Harbor Freight greenhouse Bill Sanford was crowing about a while back; have your husband get you one for the holidays, stick your Ravenea in it for a couple of years - you'll be richly rewarded.

I get by with a little help from my fronds

Posted

Hi Kim,  I had certainely planned on it, but after a week of visiting relatives, and running all around, I didn't feel too good. I'm still not feeling that great.

Was real bummed to miss it. I bet it was cool.

Scott

San Fernando Valley, California

Sunset Climate Zone 18

Posted

Sorry you missed it, Scott.  I posted a few pix of the garden we saw in the "Chapter News and Meeting Dates" section if you want to take a peek.  I was listening for your name when the new members introduced themselves.  Next time.

Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
All characters  in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

Posted

(STEVE IN SO CAL @ Nov. 19 2006,09:36)

QUOTE

(Kim @ Nov. 19 2006,10:47)

QUOTE
Thanks, all.  Yes, the roots are coming out the bottom of the liner, so I will pot it up and keep it out of direct sun.  I will probably delay planting for at least 18 months.

Bill that pandanus looked like a spiny octopus to me!  You'll get at least 2 more chances to wrestle with it-- when you unload it, and when you plant it.  Have fun!

Hey Scott, did you make it to the meeting?

Bill doesn't plant things...I think he doesn't know how.

I'm not sure if he's collecting palms or the cute black pots they come in...

You mean you don't put the green, soft, floppy part in the ground and bury it?  I kinda liked the way the sun glinted off the black plastic as it rattled around upside down...... :(

Did just get back from Yuma, but did manage to get more pots for the collection....   :cool:

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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