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Hey Bubba - my Pseudophoenix . . .

Kathryn

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PalmatierMeg Grand Master

PalmatierMeg

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Looks good, Kathryn. At most I get 4 leaves + 1 spike during the growing season and I thought that was pretty good for this palm. I don't think my P. ekmanii moved at all.

Meg

Palms of Victory I shall wear

Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise)
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I'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade.

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thestales

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Gorgeous!!! What Species is yours?

48 degrees north. Extremes 15f to 95f. Cool and Temperate Mediterranean clime.

Average July hi/Lo 72/52 - Average Jan hi/lo 45/38 - Precipitation 20 inches.

Al in Kona Grand Master

Al in Kona

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Very nice looking Pseudophoenix for being in a container. Growing as if it's in the ground! I have these three in the ground here:

P. sargentii

P. lediniana

P. ekmanii (slow grower in ground)

P. vinifera (small plant in pot)

Hawaii Island (Big Island), leeward coast, 19 degrees N. latitude, south Kona mauka at approx. 380m (1,250 ft.) and about 1.6 km (1-mile) upslope from ocean.

 

No record of a hurricane passing over this island (yet!).  

Summer maximum rainfall - variable averaging 900-1150mm (35-45") - Perfect drainage on black volcanic rocky soil.  

Nice sunsets!

DoomsDave Grand Master

DoomsDave

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Well, I'm'a SCREAM!

Very nice, just put one in the ground, like a dead pit-bull . . . .

They're not real leafy palms.

Not at all, keep us posted.

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Palm Guy Mentor

Palm Guy

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Thats a nice looking Pseudo! How old is it?

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Mike

Michael Ferreira

Bermuda-Humid(77% ave), Subtropical Zone 11, no frost

Warm Season: (May-November): Max/Min 81F/73F

Cool Season: (Dec-Apr): Max/Min 70F/62F

Record High: 94F

Record Low: 43F

Rain: 55 inches per year with no dry/wet season

Dr. George Mentor

Dr. George

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Very nice looking Pseudophoenix for being in a container. Growing as if it's in the ground! I have these three in the ground here:

P. sargentii

P. lediniana

P. ekmanii (slow grower in ground)

P. vinifera (small plant in pot)

Al - The P. lediniana seems to me to be a good choice for Kona - faster growing of the Pseudophoenix sp. and a bit drought tolerant - its on my want list but haven't seen it around at the usual sources on the Big Island. Don't remember seeing it at your place - how long have you had your's in the ground and how is it doing?

(And PM me if you have a Big Island source)

Thanks - gmp

Al in Kona Grand Master

Al in Kona

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Very nice looking Pseudophoenix for being in a container. Growing as if it's in the ground! I have these three in the ground here:

P. sargentii

P. lediniana

P. ekmanii (slow grower in ground)

P. vinifera (small plant in pot)

Al - The P. lediniana seems to me to be a good choice for Kona - faster growing of the Pseudophoenix sp. and a bit drought tolerant - its on my want list but haven't seen it around at the usual sources on the Big Island. Don't remember seeing it at your place - how long have you had your's in the ground and how is it doing?

(And PM me if you have a Big Island source)

Thanks - gmp

George, actually all the Psedophoenix should do real well in Kona and of course P. lediniana has done great for me planted in the ground as a very small seedling palm. Mine has been in the ground for about 6.5 years and only the first few years did I ever give it any supplemental water when I thought it might need it. It's now on its own. I'd call it very drought tolerant. Below is a pic of it taken about 6 months ago to give u an idea what it looks like at this stage of its life. If I find one available I'll let you know.

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Hawaii Island (Big Island), leeward coast, 19 degrees N. latitude, south Kona mauka at approx. 380m (1,250 ft.) and about 1.6 km (1-mile) upslope from ocean.

 

No record of a hurricane passing over this island (yet!).  

Summer maximum rainfall - variable averaging 900-1150mm (35-45") - Perfect drainage on black volcanic rocky soil.  

Nice sunsets!

Dr. George Mentor

Dr. George

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George, actually all the Psedophoenix should do real well in Kona and of course P. lediniana has done great for me planted in the ground as a very small seedling palm. Mine has been in the ground for about 6.5 years and only the first few years did I ever give it any supplemental water when I thought it might need it. It's now on its own. I'd call it very drought tolerant. Below is a pic of it taken about 6 months ago to give u an idea what it looks like at this stage of its life. If I find one available I'll let you know.

Kathryn Veteran

Kathryn

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Mine is a sargentii that I got at PalmFest in 2005. The earliest picture I can find is from January 2008. I put it in the terra cotta pot below as soon as I got it home and it sat in the same spot. I had mild winters so I never moved it inside. I put it in the new pot (shown in first post) about a month ago. I had a good root system and seems to be doing well. I haven't kept track of the number of leave it produces each year Meg, but I will now.

Al - Is the one you posted sargentii or lediniana?

January 2008

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bubba Grand Master

bubba

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Kathryn, That is a great looking Pseudophoenix. As I have discussed before, I really think that the sargentii is more cold tolerant than believed. I think you can plant that sargi out in NO and as long as you keep an eye on it, it will be a winner.

Also, I am afraid your Saints are going to put a hurtin on the Finns!

What you look for is what is looking

Al in Kona Grand Master

Al in Kona

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Mine is a sargentii that I got at PalmFest in 2005. The earliest picture I can find is from January 2008. I put it in the terra cotta pot below as soon as I got it home and it sat in the same spot. I had mild winters so I never moved it inside. I put it in the new pot (shown in first post) about a month ago. I had a good root system and seems to be doing well. I haven't kept track of the number of leave it produces each year Meg, but I will now.

Al - Is the one you posted sargentii or lediniana?

January 2008

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Kathryn, the pic I posted was that of Pseudophoenix lediniana.

Hawaii Island (Big Island), leeward coast, 19 degrees N. latitude, south Kona mauka at approx. 380m (1,250 ft.) and about 1.6 km (1-mile) upslope from ocean.

 

No record of a hurricane passing over this island (yet!).  

Summer maximum rainfall - variable averaging 900-1150mm (35-45") - Perfect drainage on black volcanic rocky soil.  

Nice sunsets!

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Kathryn Veteran

Kathryn

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My Pseudophoenix did fine through five winters with temperatures in the upper 20's, but was damaged by this past one. It was outside for the first part of the cold spell then moved into the garage for the coldest weather. It took a while for the leaves to start showing damage. At least the emerging spear is still green.

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gsn Veteran

gsn

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Kathryn,

I feel your pain!

My 3 in the ground (1 with about 14 inches of clear trunk) here in central Florida look about the same. Mostly burnt except for a couple of leaflets on several fronds are still green/gray, about 90 percent defoliation,but the emerging spear looks good...

The problem with this palm, it is going to take an eternity to recover because of their SLOW growth! :(

I am starting to see ALOT of cyptic damage with the warmer weather, some stuff that I thought might survive because they were pushing new growth, alas the crowns are collapsing!

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Scott

Titusville, FL

1/2 mile from the Indian River

USDA Zone COLD

Jeff Searle Grand Master

Jeff Searle

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Kathryn,

I feel your pain!

My 3 in the ground (1 with about 14 inches of clear trunk) here in central Florida look about the same. Mostly burnt except for a couple of leaflets on several fronds are still green/gray, about 90 percent defoliation,but the emerging spear looks good...

The problem with this palm, it is going to take an eternity to recover because of their SLOW growth! :(

I am starting to see ALOT of cyptic damage with the warmer weather, some stuff that I thought might survive because they were pushing new growth, alas the crowns are collapsing!

Scott,

Exactly, what some people don't realize is, is that more damage will continually show up the rest of this year.

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Tala Rising Star

Tala

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agree anything w/a crownshaft is still in danger zone, this is the time they start to fall over. Use copper in the bud, cut it thru the middle if you have to for drainage, but that's usually unnecessary. You might get some scorched fronds at first. Here most all Adonidia are not recovering, most Wodyetia are. The Archonto's are already growing full fronds.

Kathryn thats an awesome Pseudo, w/ possible exception of Dypsis decipiens they are the most cold hardy crownshaft palm. Mine get a bit damaged below 27F here, gotta watch that because they take so long to grow a full canopy.

Meg - I need your growing secret, mine are in full sun all day but I get 2 fronds per yr no matter what, fert/water doesn't help. But at least one flowered a yr ago, only the one inflor. so no seed that time.

- dave

Xenon Grand Master

Xenon

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My Pseudophoenix did fine through five winters with temperatures in the upper 20's, but was damaged by this past one. It was outside for the first part of the cold spell then moved into the garage for the coldest weather. It took a while for the leaves to start showing damage. At least the emerging spear is still green.

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Seems like I might be able to grow this one in Houston...

Sorry about the palm,

:) Jonathan

Jonathan

Katy, TX (Zone 9a)

aztropic Grand Master

aztropic

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Before even thinking of cutting the dead fronds off,pick up a can of a believable green color spray paint and give those brown fronds a quick touch up.It works surprisingly well,and from the road,nobody will even notice the damage.

Mesa, Arizona

 

Temps between 29F and 115F each year

Gallop Experienced

Gallop

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Took a little time for the extent of damage to show , but I ended up losing the following Pseudos. All were planted in the ground a year and 1/2 ago @ 15 to 25gal size. 2 P. lediniana,2 P. sargentii,2 P. vinifera, along with several 3gal P. ekmanii, all were covered except for the ekmanii ,in a temporary green house I built around the palms with no heat source. Only Pseudo I have left after this winter is a large 20gal P sargentii ssp. saonae that is in a pot and was protected this winter, it's doing just fine.

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Paul Gallop

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