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Phoenix theophrasti

freakypalmguy

By freakypalmguy
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freakypalmguy Grand Master

freakypalmguy

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Does this look like pure theo or a hybrid? Here is the plant we were discussing DaveH.

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Matt in Temecula, CA

Hot and dry in the summer, cold with light frost in the winter. Halfway between the desert and ocean

mjff Mentor

mjff

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Does this look like pure theo or a hybrid? Here is the plant we were discussing DaveH.

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Looks just like the two I have, or at least like they looked before their spears pulled. :angry:

Martin Farris, San Angelo, TX

San Angelo Cold Hardy Palms and Cycads

Jul - 92F/69F, Jan - 55F/31F

Lows:

02-03: 18F;

03-04: 19F;

04-05: 17F;

05-06: 11F;

06-07: 13F;

07-08: 14F 147.5 Freezing Degree-Hours http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?sh...ee+hours\;

08-09: 23F;

09-10: 12F 467.6 Freezing Degree Hours, Average Temperature During Freeze 24.2F;

10-11: 13F 1,059.5 Freezing Degree Hours with Strong Winds/Rain/Snow/Sleet, Average Temperature During Freeze 19.4F;

Record low -4F in 1989 (High of 36F that p.m.) 1,125.2 freezing degree hours, Average Temperature During Freeze 13.6F;

Record Freeze 1983: 2,300.3 Freezing Degree Hours with a low of 5F, Average Temperature During Freeze 13.7F.

Kris Grand Master

Kris

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Dear Matt :)

Your stills do look like a standard Theo,but it can be more clearly ID only when they are put in ground and is having about 4 to 6 feet of trunk.

Here is our theo which is around 3 years old of the 3 theo's this is growing in big barrel,and hope to plant it soon in a couple of months ! And i must say that this one palm which did not show any travel or transplant shock when it came to me as a young sapling from brother M@x.Its a very tough phoenix variety.:greenthumb:

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Love,

kris :)

love conquers all..

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palmtreesforpleasure Veteran

palmtreesforpleasure

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Here is some pictures that may help to compare with

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Natural ground they grow in

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regards

Colin

coastal north facing location

100klm south of Sydney

NSW

Australia

iamjv Mentor

iamjv

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Agree with Kris on the hardiness factor... I too have some of M@x's theos and it recently took 16F with little damage only to the older fronds. The one nearest the house didn't have any damage at all. Jv

Jv in San Antonio Texas / Zone 8/extremes past 29 yrs: 117F (47.2C) / 8F (-13.3C)

Kris Grand Master

Kris

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Dear Colin :)

Lovely visuals...

And dear Matt here is a link for you where you can see some mature specimens..but the language in that site is european,may be german ?

http://www.rozhlas.c.../_zprava/540276

http://images.google...ved=0CBgQsAQwAA

http://davesgarden.c...howimage/45915/

http://www.arkive.org/cretan-date-palm/phoenix-theophrasti/images.html

Thanks & Love,

kris :)

love conquers all..

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freakypalmguy Grand Master

freakypalmguy

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Thank you Martin, I hope yours pull through :(

Great links Kris, thank you. I will be planting it soon.

Colin, thank you for the beautiful pics.

Thank you JV.

I saw my first mature theo recently, and was awestruck. It was maintained as a single and looked like a giant blue cycad with a blackish trunk.

Matt in Temecula, CA

Hot and dry in the summer, cold with light frost in the winter. Halfway between the desert and ocean

Dave H Community Regular

Dave H

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hey Matt,

that looks right... here's a pic of the 2 distinct varieties i was telling you about...

Davidl Mentor

Davidl

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Matt I could not see any of the pics you posted but P.theophrasti looks different than P.canariensis or dactylifera and pretty sure its different looking than the others phoenix I have seen. I have one and it sticks out pretty well when you compare them.

David

palmtreesforpleasure Veteran

palmtreesforpleasure

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Here is some pictures that may help to compare with

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Natural ground they grow in

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regards

Colin

Pictures again

plus a picture of the beach, the only place where the the 2 forms grow together . This beach has the biggest stand in the world and was originally planted by the Phoenicians thousands of years ago.This place is a long way from any roads, access is by boat only (unless you wish to trek over a mountain)Yes, that is the dingy used to row ashore to visit the site.

regards

colin

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coastal north facing location

100klm south of Sydney

NSW

Australia

freakypalmguy Grand Master

freakypalmguy

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Here are the pics of my theo again since they fell into cyberspace :)

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Matt in Temecula, CA

Hot and dry in the summer, cold with light frost in the winter. Halfway between the desert and ocean

freakypalmguy Grand Master

freakypalmguy

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Here are the pics of the theophrasti that caught my attention. It was a stunner, icy blue cycad like leaflets, almost black leaf bases, and a vibrant yellow-orange-green color on the petioles and spines.

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Look at some of those leaflets, dagger like.

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Matt in Temecula, CA

Hot and dry in the summer, cold with light frost in the winter. Halfway between the desert and ocean

Dave H Community Regular

Dave H

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hey Matt,

that looks right... here's a pic of the 2 distinct varieties i was telling you about...

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Alberto Grand Master

Alberto

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Does this look like pure theo or a hybrid? Here is the plant we were discussing DaveH.

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Looks just like the two I have, or at least like they looked before their spears pulled. :angry:

Intersting and strange....

When I click on this links,on the first appears my pic of Geonoma gamiova and on the second my pic of Euterpe edulis that dissapeared on a Topic that I started ( summer vacation in Guaratuba) For you folks also????

Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

freakypalmguy Grand Master

freakypalmguy

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It's the same for me Alberto, except the pics come up as Moose Knuckle in drag when I click on them :rolleyes: . Something happened a few days ago with the forum that caused some mix ups.

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Matt in Temecula, CA

Hot and dry in the summer, cold with light frost in the winter. Halfway between the desert and ocean

palmtreesforpleasure Veteran

palmtreesforpleasure

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Something strange is happening, the jpg files in the quote box of my post are not mine.

the pictures you can see are.

regards

colin

coastal north facing location

100klm south of Sydney

NSW

Australia

DoomsDave Grand Master

DoomsDave

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These things are tough, and, some are stunning, with great colors. There's a fine specimen at the Big H "Huntington" with a striking, glowing look, dark leaf bases, luminous spines and vivid green leaves.

BUT!

Not to be confused with anything cuddly, even for the most fervid masochists . . . . .

Let's keep our forum fun and friendly.

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Kris Grand Master

Kris

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Here are the pics of the theophrasti that caught my attention. It was a stunner, icy blue cycad like leaflets, almost black leaf bases, and a vibrant yellow-orange-green color on the petioles and spines.

post-1261-1264607726034_thumb.jpg

post-1261-12646077411205_thumb.jpg

Look at some of those leaflets, dagger like.

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Beautiful visuals...hope some day even our palms grow up like that ! :)

love conquers all..

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