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palmislandRandy

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palmislandRandy Grand Master

palmislandRandy

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I feel fortunate my low temps this month in South Palm Beach County only got down 34F. I wasn't suprised at the damage to my Arecas & Prichardias, but all my Licuala grandis just wimped out completely. :angry: All 3 are in protected areas, 2 are even over my pool, which I thought would be good for at least a degree or two bump! I have all kinds of Licualas, none had any damage at all. If they croak, I'll probably replace them with peltatas. Anyone elses fair any better. What's the lowest temperature a grandis will tolerate without self destructing? Randy

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"If you need me, I'll be outside" -Randy Wiesner Palm Beach County, Florida Zone 10Bish

pg6922 Community Regular

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Mine is doing almost the exact same thing and was protected under my lanai but saw 30 degrees for 2 nights in a row. I hope it can recover.

Cape Coral,FL Southwest

Zone 10a

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Lowey Experienced

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"WOW" that's toasted, :( some of the others have been posting remarks about how well their Licuala's faired, I guess they can't have meant grandis? I hope they recover for you :)

Bruce

Innisfail - NQ AUS - 3600mm of rain a year average or around 144inches if you prefer - Temp Range 9c to 43c

palmislandRandy Grand Master

palmislandRandy

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None of my other Licualas showed any sign of damage. I love my grandis, but if they don't survive they won't be replaced. They look worse today.....ugh! :(

"If you need me, I'll be outside" -Randy Wiesner Palm Beach County, Florida Zone 10Bish

Davidl Mentor

Davidl

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Did you have frost ? I have seem them take lower temps with minor damage, spotting mostly.

David

Moose Grand Master

Moose

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None of my other Licualas showed any sign of damage. I love my grandis, but if they don't survive they won't be replaced. They look worse today.....ugh! sad.gif

Randy - I am suprised about your Licualas as mine are still looking good so far. We were experiencing the same relative temperatures up the coast. Your damage seems like you had frost settle on your palms. unsure.gif

If we do not get wacked with another front this winter, I believe your Licualas will survive. Unfortunately by the look of the size of your palms, it may take two years for them to return to their former splendor. huh.gif

Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

Tyrone Grand Master

Tyrone

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Licuala grandis needs constant warm weather. It can handle low temps, but it needs to warm up in the day to around 20C. Prolonged cool does this species in. You probably won't see it growing in So Cal due to prolonged cool winter weather. What a lot of Florida got through the day in the cold spell was prolonged cold weather, something even So Cal doesn't get normally. I'm not surprised L grandis suffered through the Florida cold spell. L ramsayi would look OK though, as well as L peltata var sumawongii, L spinosa etc.

Best regards

Tyrone

Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

rozpalm Mentor

rozpalm

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I agree with Moose. Even though you had a pretty bad meltdown, L. grandis is a very tough palm. I have one that seems never to be happy and melts down almost every year in the spring to the point that its spear pulls. Last year in the start of summer its spear pulled and at that point I just gave up on it and didn't even bother to treat it. By chance I looked at it a couple of days ago and its doing fine w/ several new leaves and a healthy spear. Hang in there.

Ron

Wellington, Florida

Zone 11 in my mind

Zone 10a 9a in reality

13miles West of the Atlantic in Palm Beach County

tikitiki Mentor

tikitiki

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Mine look like this after every frost for the past 6 years. The spear looks burnt as well and they always come back. By the middle of the summer they will look good and by the end they should have a complete recovery. Mine looked great until the last night of frost. I would not worry about them at all. They are worth it to me.

Tom

With a tin cup for a chalice

Fill it up with good red wine,

And I'm-a chewin' on a honeysuckle vine.

DoomsDave Grand Master

DoomsDave

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Randy:

OUCH!

Looks like you took a bit of a hit.

When I have a palm take a beating like that, I wait and see if it will recover. Sometimes, they do.

Nudge them at the base with your hand or foot. If they're still tight in the ground, there may still be some hope, especially if they start to grow again soon.

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realarch Grand Master

realarch

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Oh geeze, that was hard to look at. Like others have said, the chances of coming back seem to be pretty good. I wouldn't

toss them on the compost heap just yet. Other than the occasional cold weather, it looks as though they do well for you

and must have been beautiful.

Tim

Tim

Hilo, Hawaii

palmislandRandy Grand Master

palmislandRandy

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Strange, but the photos disappeared from the first post :huh: so here's the damage again!

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"If you need me, I'll be outside" -Randy Wiesner Palm Beach County, Florida Zone 10Bish

bubba Grand Master

bubba

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Randy,That looks worse than the Liculua grandis at Ann Norton.The only sign I have of the cold on my Licuala grandis is slight browning on the tips. I posted recent pictures somewhere around here. They do seem to come back and I bet yours will.

What you look for is what is looking

Jeff Searle Grand Master

Jeff Searle

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Every L Grandis I have seen this week from Lauderdale to Homestead is toasted! These are one of the more sensitive Licualas!

I agree. L. grandis in my opinion is one of the weaker species within the genus. Most of all my 1,3,7 gallons are all showing some form of damage. Leaf burn is one thing (will out grow this)but brown, shriveled up new spear leaves are another! There's definitely going to be a shortage of L. grandis the remaining year here in south Florida. I'm finding other species came through pretty good, and still others with damage.

Searle Brothers Nursery Inc.

and The Rainforest Collection.

Southwest Ranches,Fl.

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