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Phoenix Roebelenii or kind of hybrid

Rafael

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Rafael Grand Master

Rafael

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This one, spend spring, summer and autumn outdoors, and came indoors to avoid some freezy nights.

It is under light shade, and monthly watered. No inch of brown, allways growing...

Might it be a pure roebelenii or an hybrid one, crossed. And crossed with what kind of other palm?

And, if hybrid, how much does it improve its coldhardiness?

I would agree your point of view :drool::drool:

THANKS!! :D

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Furadouro and Ovar, zone 9b/10a.
PORTUGAL
http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=20668
http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/31527-my-new-garden-ovar-january2012/

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This one, spend spring, summer and autumn outdoors, and came indoors to avoid some freezy nights.

It is under light shade, and monthly watered. No inch of brown, allways growing...

Might it be a pure roebelenii or an hybrid one, crossed. And crossed with what kind of other palm?

And, if hybrid, how much does it improve its coldhardiness?

I would agree your point of view :drool::drool:

THANKS!! :D

Oi Rafael,

I thought your Phoenix looked like a hybrid cause the leaves are way more "upright" than the regular ones I've seen here in the tropics, in full sun, but maybe it's just the ammount of light exposure for being grown indoors. Also the trunk looks rather thick for a pigmy (??)... Palmeira bem nutrida essa tua, ô pá... :)

Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers

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gyuseppe

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the phoenix roebelenni selling here,have that aspect more robust.

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Kris Grand Master

Kris

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Hai :)

The palm in your still looks great ! :greenthumb:

Hope you plant in the ground when your climate is ideal for it.

Thanks & Love,

kris :)

love conquers all..

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Jason Baker Portugal

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They grow well here and no frost damage in my garden. Jason

Jason Baker

Central coastal Portugal

Zone 10a, 1300mm rain

warm-temperate, oceanic climate

looking for that exotic tropical island look

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hi Rafael i don't think you have phoenix roebelenii i think its more likely you have a phoenix loureirii manipur this palm seems to look a lot like phoenix roebelenii and gets sold as such in the past it was sold as phoenix roebelenii manipur also they seem to be very common on the European house plant market so my guess would be you have a very nice phoenix loureirii manipur this eBay shop seem to sell quite a lot of these palms http://stores.shop.ebay.de/Marions-Palmen-Oase__W0QQ_armrsZ1QQ_fsubZ136095919 hope this helps you

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Interesting Ricky, I had never heard of such a variation....are they more hardy?

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Kris Grand Master

Kris

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You bet it!

What does it look, hybrid?

Yes,its a hybrid..But since its beautiful & unique you can forgive this baby palm..:D

Love,

kris :)

love conquers all..

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Rafael Grand Master

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hi Rafael i don't think you have phoenix roebelenii i think its more likely you have a phoenix loureirii manipur this palm seems to look a lot like phoenix roebelenii and gets sold as such in the past it was sold as phoenix roebelenii manipur also they seem to be very common on the European house plant market so my guess would be you have a very nice phoenix loureirii manipur this eBay shop seem to sell quite a lot of these palms http://stores.shop.ebay.de/Marions-Palmen-Oase__W0QQ_armrsZ1QQ_fsubZ136095919 hope this helps you

ricky

Hi Ricky, and thanks about your opinion!

I am not surprised that it is not a pure roebelenii, but i am surprised about being another species!

Does anyone has any kind of data about this palm? Its needs, growth rythm, hardiness...?

Furadouro and Ovar, zone 9b/10a.
PORTUGAL
http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=20668
http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/31527-my-new-garden-ovar-january2012/

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tropicbreeze Grand Master

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I have 3 P. roebelenii, 2 of them have fronds similar to the ones in your photo. They only get water from wet season rain, dry season they're totally dry for 4 to 5 months and out in the hot afternoon sun. The other one is in shade most of the time and gets indirect irrigation right through the dry season. It's taller and has long pendulous fronds. Enviroment can change appearances a lot. But I'd agree that yours looks like P. loureirii.

Rafael Grand Master

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I have 3 P. roebelenii, 2 of them have fronds similar to the ones in your photo. They only get water from wet season rain, dry season they're totally dry for 4 to 5 months and out in the hot afternoon sun. The other one is in shade most of the time and gets indirect irrigation right through the dry season. It's taller and has long pendulous fronds. Enviroment can change appearances a lot. But I'd agree that yours looks like P. loureirii.

Thanks Zig.

It is important me to know exactly the species, because of the different cold hardiness between loureirii and roebelleni.

Maybe i will try my palm, still potted, during next winter...

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Furadouro and Ovar, zone 9b/10a.
PORTUGAL
http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=20668
http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/31527-my-new-garden-ovar-january2012/

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