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Lodoicea maldivica in South Florida

Manolitus

By Manolitus
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Manolitus

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To all you double cocos out there:

Today I went into Broward county and visited Flamingo Gardens. Some of you may have heard of this garden on this very forum. Small little garden with some cool stuff.

They have what I believe may be the biggest Lodoicea maldivica in Florida ( someone correct me if I am wrong ). Was really dying to see how it did with the recent cold spell.

When I started walking through the very brown garden, I noticed a bunch of V. Splendida ALL dead save one that looked horrible. When I saw this I was not sure if I would even find the double coconut.

So here is what I saw:

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A few more pictures to follow......

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Manolitus

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The palm seems to being doing GREAT all things considered. It was 33 F two mornings in a row at my house. This means it was probably 25 F !!!!! At Flamingo. That's some stamina for this Seychelles beau !!!

It had one spear about to open, and a second one on the way. Was very surprised.

Thoughts out there ??

Manny

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Manolitus

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ONe more shot:

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tjwalters Veteran

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Great to see it is doing so well in spite of the cold. I imagine the one (more than one?) at FTG is unfazed.

Tom

Bowie, Maryland, USA - USDA z7a
hardiestpalms.com

Manolitus Rising Star

Manolitus

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The ones at FTG are fine, especially the one inside !!

Manny

bubba Grand Master

bubba

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Manny, The two at Ann Norton Sculpture Garden in West Palm Beach are good. I posted a picture I believe in the Travel Log section.The larger of the two sustained slight browning towards the tip.Bananas still alive at the Garden so I do not believe we were below 35F.

What you look for is what is looking

DoomsDave Grand Master

DoomsDave

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Keep us apprized of their progress!

That's great news they survived a freeze like that maybe there's some hope they'll push the envelope more than people think.

Hmmm.

Loddies in So-Cal, anyone?

Let's keep our forum fun and friendly.

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Well its burnt but it looks to be ok.

David

happ Grand Master

happ

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Keep us apprized of their progress!

That's great news they survived a freeze like that maybe there's some hope they'll push the envelope more than people think.

Hmmm.

Loddies in So-Cal, anyone?

That's how it would look every year in California, Dave! :wacko:

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Los Angeles/Pasadena

34° 10' N   118° 18' W

Elevation: 910'/278m

January Average Hi/Lo: 69F/50F

July Average Hi/Lo: 88F/66F

Average Rainfall: 19"/48cm

USDA 11/Sunset 23

http://cdec.water.ca.gov/cgi-progs/queryF?MTW

epicure3 Grand Master

epicure3

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Keep us apprized of their progress!

That's great news they survived a freeze like that maybe there's some hope they'll push the envelope more than people think.

Hmmm.

Loddies in So-Cal, anyone?

That's how it would look every year in California, Dave! :wacko:

Ha! In a good year.

Coastal San Diego, California

Z10b

Dry summer subtropical/Mediterranean

warm summer/mild winter

palmsOrl Grand Master

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Now I'm tempted to try one here in Orlando, unfortunately they get so massive that after a while it would be impossible to protect it. Eventually, it would be killed (sooner rather than later). Are these generally considered to be a zone 11 palm (this freeze suggests it's somewhat more hardy)? What is another species of palm with comparable cold sensitivity?

-Michael

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cfkingfish

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Well honestly I am not too surprised if you look at the plant's genetics. It is closely related to Latania and Borassus. In fact, I don't think any Coryphoid palms are ultratropical.

Christian Faulkner

Venice, Florida - South Sarasota County.

www.faulknerspalms.com

 

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DoomsDave Grand Master

DoomsDave

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Keep us apprized of their progress!

That's great news they survived a freeze like that maybe there's some hope they'll push the envelope more than people think.

Hmmm.

Loddies in So-Cal, anyone?

That's how it would look every year in California, Dave! :wacko:

Ha! In a good year.

So how do you know?

I need a seed, to feed the need for information . . . .

Hmmph. Up to a point . . .

Let's keep our forum fun and friendly.

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Eric in Orlando Grand Master

Eric in Orlando

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Are you sure it was that cold that far south ???

The only drawback is that they grow 1 or 2 leaves a years so wouldn't have time to recover.

Eric

Orlando, FL

zone 9b/10a

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I live less than a minute away from Flamingo Gardens.The low was around 35-36 ,unfortunately that was cold enough to kill my piggie :angry::angry:

Are you sure it was that cold that far south ???

The only drawback is that they grow 1 or 2 leaves a years so wouldn't have time to recover.

Manolitus Rising Star

Manolitus

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I live less than a minute away from Flamingo Gardens.The low was around 35-36 ,unfortunately that was cold enough to kill my piggie :angry::angry:

Are you sure it was that cold that far south ???

The only drawback is that they grow 1 or 2 leaves a years so wouldn't have time to recover.

Wow. I had to believe that it would be colder than Miami over there. This is why I assumed the lower temp. We were at 33 F.

Either way, pretty damn hardy, especially if you look at how their other Seychelle palms did.

Manny

Eric in Orlando Grand Master

Eric in Orlando

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Is the big one at Dr. Young's in Tampa exposed to the outside or is it totally enclosed? If open I wonder how it fared.

Eric

Orlando, FL

zone 9b/10a

bubba Grand Master

bubba

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Here is one of the two at Ann Norton:

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What you look for is what is looking

epicure3 Grand Master

epicure3

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Here is one of the two at Ann Norton:

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Is that a good result or bad? I see the leaves' dead tissue but maybe it is encouraging that it sustained only some damage? The bummer is that it grows so slowly.

Coastal San Diego, California

Z10b

Dry summer subtropical/Mediterranean

warm summer/mild winter

Jeff Searle Grand Master

Jeff Searle

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I live less than a minute away from Flamingo Gardens.The low was around 35-36 ,unfortunately that was cold enough to kill my piggie :angry::angry:

Are you sure it was that cold that far south ???

The only drawback is that they grow 1 or 2 leaves a years so wouldn't have time to recover.

I agree, I would of guessed somewhere in the low to middle 30's. I saw 30 and 31 both mornings and I'm ten minutes away.

Glad to hear that it made it! Thanks for letting us all know.

Jeff

Searle Brothers Nursery Inc.

and The Rainforest Collection.

Southwest Ranches,Fl.

Zeeth Grand Master

Zeeth

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It will be cool when Florida has one of these with trunk, or fruit! :drool:

Lesse... I'm 18, and it takes 80 years from sprout to fruit, and there probably is one over 18 years old, so maybe by the time I'm 78 there will be a fruiting one here!

Are there any fruiting specimens in Hawaii?

Keith 

Palmetto, Florida (10a) and Tampa, Florida (9b/10a)

waykoolplantz Veteran

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I was at my brother in law's Sunday...went to look at his DCC...and there's a 4" sprout coming up a few inches away from the nut !! I will take a camera & get some pics.

Mine is buried in mulch..we'll hafta see if mine is coming up too ?

The Palm Mahal

Hollywood Fla

Lowey Experienced

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I was at my brother in law's Sunday...went to look at his DCC...and there's a 4" sprout coming up a few inches away from the nut !! I will take a camera & get some pics.

Mine is buried in mulch..we'll hafta see if mine is coming up too ?

Holly @$*&#@&, where are you guys getting seed from :rage:

Bruce

Innisfail - NQ AUS - 3600mm of rain a year average or around 144inches if you prefer - Temp Range 9c to 43c

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Mandrew968 Grand Master

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The two at fairchild are struggling--the one outside looks like there is a deficiency going on, and the other inside, looks to be in only slightly better condition. During the palm sale in the fall(2010), some of the patrons were livid, "doesn't anyone around here have a bag of fertilizer?!" some lady blurted...

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