brahea moorei

[gyuseppe]

in September I was born 4 small Brahea moorei, well exceeded the 1 winter.

any info? in summer in full sun? shadow?

The Brahea moorei very rare in Europe, many years I was looking for a plant, but never found!

[Kris]

Dear giuseppe

I do not have this variety but as for all other Brahea's,they can take full sunlight of summer season provided they are not suddenly brought out to a open area from glass house.

That is when you are in your spring season you can bring them out and leave it there for the entire hot summer season.

All my phoenix & brahea's small seedlings all take full sun & hot weather without a blink !

Try it with 2 Brahea's they shift all of them to full sun,giving them a week's time for observation...

Kindly keep us updated on its grouth rate & leaf colour..etc.

Thanks for the visual..

love,

kris

[LJG]

I have found this plant likes mostly shade or part sun even as an adult here in San Diego. It is slow growing. From that stage, maybe 10 years to see the white develop under the leaves?

[Alberto]

Ciao Gyuseppe,

How you germinated the seeds? How long they took to germinate?

Thanks!

[elHoagie]

I agree with Len, shade or part sun is probably best...

Also, the seeds look too big to be B. moorei - how large are those pots?

[ghar41]

I agree with those who say shade or filtered sun only, especially if you are inland with intense hot sun. When they get some size I like them in morning sun, but this palm is too valuable and rare to risk in hot afternoon sun IMHO. Also, they prefer a slightly to moderately alkaline soil and many commercial mixes are too acidic. I remember moving mine over to an alkaline mix awhile back, and watched them take off, and thrive.

[gyuseppe]

[gyuseppe]

How you germinated the seeds? How long they took to germinate?

Thanks!

alberto: 10 months of germination!

November 2008-September 2009->were always out in the garden,

spent the whole winter off, then suddenly have sprouted in the late summer

[gyuseppe]

I agree with Len, shade or part sun is probably best...

Also, the seeds look too big to be B. moorei - how large are those pots?

I do not know you, but we in Europe are not stupid

very small seeds.

remind you that RPS Almost all seeds of Brahea in sale.

how large are those pots? --> are the glasses that my son and his friends for his birthday!

simple glasses !

[Charles Wychgel]

Gyuseppe, Jack was asking about the pot size to have a scale to compare the seed size

Brahea moorei does have the smallest seed of all Brahea 5-6 mm, Brahea decumbens is the next in size see http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.ison2/page15.html

Here is another site(in french) with seed photos, no Brahea moorei hélas http://fousdepalmiers.fr/html/forum/viewforum.php?f=25

[gyuseppe]

yes charles I know david ison.

I know even seed Brahea decumbens, were born 3 seedlings Brahea decumbens but soon died

Charles you have Brahea moorei?

[Charles Wychgel]

Charles you have Brahea moorei?

I have one that I bought as a seedling in 1996, quite big now but has not flowered yet

Last year I got a seedling from Holland and it has grown very nicely see the last two photos

I think it can handle more sun but do not give it the same full blasting sun as Brahea armata

[Kris]

Dear Charles

Thanks for the links and for those lovely stills..

love,

kris

[elHoagie]

I agree with Len, shade or part sun is probably best...

Also, the seeds look too big to be B. moorei - how large are those pots?

I do not know you, but we in Europe are not stupid

very small seeds.

remind you that RPS Almost all seeds of Brahea in sale.

how large are those pots? --> are the glasses that my son and his friends for his birthday!

simple glasses !

Gyuseppe - I was not trying to insult you! As Charles said, I just wanted to know the size of the pot so I could have a scale for the size of the seed. It sounds like the answer is that the pots are very small, which makes the seed look large.

You're doing better than me to germinate 4 in only 10 months. I've been waiting 3 years and I only have 4 seedlings from ~100 seeds, the most recent seedling germinated only a couple months ago...

[gyuseppe]

Charles :your very beautiful , I book for your future seeds !

Jack :Gyuseppe - I was not trying to insult you !-->sorry for my English-->I had not understood before

Jack : I just wanted to know the size of the pot so I could have a scale for the size of the seed. It sounds like the answer is that the pots are very small, which makes the seed look large.-->yes seeds very small and very small pots.

I've been waiting 3 years and I only have 4 seedlings from ~100 seeds, the most recent seedling germinated only a couple months ago...

I know brahea very difficult to germinate, but this is too much!

Now I understand why Brahea moorei very rare in Europe

[ghar41]

Charles :your very beautiful , I book for your future seeds !

Jack :Gyuseppe - I was not trying to insult you !-->sorry for my English-->I had not understood before

Jack : I just wanted to know the size of the pot so I could have a scale for the size of the seed. It sounds like the answer is that the pots are very small, which makes the seed look large.-->yes seeds very small and very small pots.

I've been waiting 3 years and I only have 4 seedlings from ~100 seeds, the most recent seedling germinated only a couple months ago...

I know brahea very difficult to germinate, but this is too much!

Now I understand why Brahea moorei very rare in Europe

I think I bought seeds from that same batch Jack (RPS.) My results have been similar...about 6. The last one germinating just this past October. I may not throw them out for a few more years.....

[PalmGuyWC]

I agree with those who say shade or filtered sun only, especially if you are inland with intense hot sun. When they get some size I like them in morning sun, but this palm is too valuable and rare to risk in hot afternoon sun IMHO. Also, they prefer a slightly to moderately alkaline soil and many commercial mixes are too acidic. I remember moving mine over to an alkaline mix awhile back, and watched them take off, and thrive.

I can tell you one thing, B. moorei doesn't like to be transplanted. I bought a beauty from Ray Laub before his move to Hawaii. The plant was beautiful almost 5' across and it had a nice root ball. I had a hole waiting for it when Ray brought it over and it was planted immediately. Within 2 days it went into immediate decline and all the fronds were brown in a matter of days. I planted it in a spot where it would get some morning sun and afternoon shade. I wish I could find another that size, but container grown. They are rare in the USA also.

Dick

[LJG]

Charles you have Brahea moorei?

I have one that I bought as a seedling in 1996, quite big now but has not flowered yet

Last year I got a seedling from Holland and it has grown very nicely see the last two photos

I think it can handle more sun but do not give it the same full blasting sun as Brahea armata

Wow Charles. I hope mine grows to look like yours.

[Al in Kona]

Hello gyuseppe,

I have two small Brahea moorei growing in our garden here in leeward upslope Kona, Hawaii. They are very slow growing and I was told to plant them in a mostly shaded area (morning or filtered sun should be OK, however). This must be about the only Brahea that prefers shade. My 2-plants are growing pretty much on their own with only an occasional supplemental watering if it gets extremely dry. Here they are in photos:

[gyuseppe]

then half shade and half seems sun the right thing.

thanks to everyone and hope ok

[Kris]

Here is a link for more visuals...

B.Moorei

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[ghar41]

I agree with those who say shade or filtered sun only, especially if you are inland with intense hot sun. When they get some size I like them in morning sun, but this palm is too valuable and rare to risk in hot afternoon sun IMHO. Also, they prefer a slightly to moderately alkaline soil and many commercial mixes are too acidic. I remember moving mine over to an alkaline mix awhile back, and watched them take off, and thrive.

I can tell you one thing, B. moorei doesn't like to be transplanted. I bought a beauty from Ray Laub before his move to Hawaii. The plant was beautiful almost 5' across and it had a nice root ball. I had a hole waiting for it when Ray brought it over and it was planted immediately. Within 2 days it went into immediate decline and all the fronds were brown in a matter of days. I planted it in a spot where it would get some morning sun and afternoon shade. I wish I could find another that size, but container grown. They are rare in the USA also.

Dick

Yes, I had the same experience as I bought the companion plant from Ray, and watched it die. The stump is still in the ground because I am a dreamer. I wouldnt transplant one again, but if it were a necessity I would try root pruning it first.

Since that time I have been very fortunate to find seed as well as container plants at Cistus Nursery in Portland Oregon before they ran out. I just bought a new camera today so I took some picures. This is what they look like from seedling to mature plant.

[ghar41]

[ghar41]

Young plant w/ character leaves but before white appears on back of leaves

[ghar41]

White begins to appear on backs and on top of leaf near hastula

[ghar41]

Mature plant with white appearing both on top and, more completely, on the bottom of the leaf.

[gyuseppe]

Glenn :your small Brahea are identical to mine!

anyone knows how old blooms Brahea moorei?