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Posted (edited)

Hello all!

These 3 dypsis decipiens were bought and put in the ground one month ago.

We tryed to improve good drainage.

As we have grass irrigation, turned on till April to October, except on rainy days, these 3 will be regulary watered.

These recent days its colour has become kind of yellow, and i just cant understand why.

Should it be overwater problem (as Charles in Portugal suggested), or seaweed fertilizer problem, or another issue...?

What would you suggest to avoid this?

:(:(

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Edited by rafael
Posted

I believe they are ok -just transplant shock and adjusting to new enviroment.

They are planted WAY too Close -these are big palm . :drool:

Old Beach ,Hobart
Tasmania ,Australia. 42 " south
Cool Maritime climate

Posted

Like Troy said, transplant shock and maybe a little sunburn.

Matt in Temecula, CA

Hot and dry in the summer, cold with light frost in the winter. Halfway between the desert and ocean

Posted

I believe they are ok -just transplant shock and adjusting to new enviroment.

They are planted WAY too Close -these are big palm . :drool:

I told Rafael that when he planted them. :)

Rafael, mark the spears with a marker, if its growing, thats good.

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

Posted

It's sunburn. Don't worry about it. They'll acclimate. I don't think they're too close. It's a matter of taste. If you want a buldging group that sways away from each other then that's how you'd plant them.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Posted (edited)

Thank you all for the replies. :)

I also thought this palm needs most good drainage than less watering... These are independent issues, somehow.

The new spear of one of these palms is trying to open, right now, maybe it means what everybody said above.

Lets wait a little for acclimatization (i have other palms recently put in the ground, showing some sunburn).

Concerning to the close up to each other issue, i am with MattyB :D , in some way thats what i wanted, and besides that, they are maybe 40 cm apart.

Edited by rafael
Posted

Good news!

Plus, I finally looked at 40cm and see it is less than 2 feet. You will "out Velez" Ralph Velez, I love it! An impenetrable mass of Dypsis decipeins!

(Especially when most trunks are 80cm across AND clumping. No worse than "multi- plantings" of R. rivularis I see around here)

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

Posted

I think they wont be touching, maybe embrassing each other, in a massive embrasse, Ralph Velez style (what an honour)! :drool:

But first they have to thrive enough!! :)

They'll thrive, they'll touch, it'll be like a speedway car pile up, and they are unlikely to grow to their potential. In trouble you say ? no doubt. Try three bizzies next time... :lol:

oh by the way, they are Livistona decora.

Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

Posted

I wouldn't worry, Raf.

They're a bit yellow, but they do that to me, too, including my long-term survivors.

Those are a bit too close together, but, then, it's a matter of taste . . . .

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Posted

Wal: yes, near my three dypsis decipiens i have a livistona decora, indeed Wal!

Dave: I hope mine will raise that long surviving too! :)

lost it looking after the grandkids today..

Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

Posted

Hello all!

These 3 dypsis decipiens were bought and put in the ground one month ago.

We tryed to improve good drainage.

As we have grass irrigation, turned on till April to October, except on rainy days, these 3 will be regulary watered.

These recent days its colour has become kind of yellow, and i just cant understand why.

Should it be overwater problem (as Charles in Portugal suggested), or seaweed fertilizer problem, or another issue...?

What would you suggest to avoid this?

:(:(

Just arrived post-3292-12717578978165_thumb.jpg

One month ago, already in the ground post-3292-12717578620553_thumb.jpg

Today post-3292-12717579708149_thumb.jpg

Today II post-3292-12717580181061_thumb.jpg

Yours are bigger than my one gallons but mine did not like overhead watering. The growth bud would rot out. I notice you planted yours in the middle of the lawn is it getting over head water?

Ed Mijares

Whittier, Ca

Psyco Palm Collector Wheeler Dealer

Zone 10a?

  • 2 weeks later...
Posted

Overhead irrigation avoiding dypsis zone.

Two of them moved a little, and now the three all are more distant from each others.

All of them are growing new buds.

Good to see that they are back on track. Can you tell me about your white rocks? They are very striking against the green of the lawn! They look like river stones, but where does on find so many pure white ones?

Susan

Posted

Looks great Rafael! Did the move go smoothly?

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

Posted

Also- I can't remember how well your soil drains. If it is heavy, be sure to err on the side of drier, but the mound planting will help with that a lot.

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

  • 2 months later...
Posted

raf,

dypsis looking good brother! Don't listen to what the others say on too close of proximity, they're high on Elmers! (Glue) I'm glad that spears are continuously pushing. Those pups will look unbelievable with time. After seeing Mardy Darian's huge specimen, those pups will set your landscape off!

FINS UP!

-eric

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Living in the valley of the dirt people in the inland empire, "A mullet on every head and a methlab in every kitchen." If you can't afford to live in the tropics, then bring the tropics to you!

Posted

Looks really good Raphael,

I think you're going to have a great grouping. My only D.D. split into two heads. I know that is not uncommon, and I don't know if there is a time during their growth that is more opportune for that; it may prove interesting that you end up with more than three trees in your group.

:huh::D

William

Hana, Maui

 

Land of the low lying heavens, the misty Uakea crowning the majestic Kauwiki.

Visit my palms here

Posted

They're looking great Rafael. All the best.

Tyrone

Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

  • 7 months later...
Posted

These three guys seemed to be fine when, suddendly, one of them, the one wich is not near canopy, started to look brown.

The others are growing fine.

I will try seaweed fertilizer and neem oil water solution over it, but i think he is saying goodbye! :(

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Posted

That does not look promising Rafael... :(

I hope you have backed way off on the watering during this winter. This probably the hardest part or time of the year for them.

Is it one of the "moved" ones?

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

Posted

Mine always start to yellow just a little mid winter. Then when our days are in the 70's to the 80's they green up fast.

Jeff

Modesto, CA USDA 9b

July/August average 95f/63f

Dec/Jan average 55f/39f

Average lowest winter temp 27f

Record low temp 18f

Record high temp 113f

Posted

So much rain has fallen here in the Algarve even more than last winter....and when it rains in the Algarve it pours in the north of Portugal

My DD is hanging in there now , not looking happy also :angry:

I spend a weekend in Agueda on a CRA (Cycad Related Activity) sort of expected you as well but you probably did not get the info??

Charles Wychgel

Algarve/Portugal

Sunset zone 24

Posted

Hello, Rafael -

really good news. Have followed this thread ... my first assumption has been overwatering ... my C. nucifera shows the same color and dark stripes at the leaves but it recovered.

Wish your 3 dypsis a good growing and no more further trouble. :)

Best regards, Verena

Member of the ultimate Lytocaryum fan society :)

Posted

It's rotting. That browing of the end of the leaflets is the clue. I've had this happen to several Dypsis decipiens.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Posted

Too much water. They will not tolerate it in cool weather and at a small size. Tim

Tim Hopper

St Augustine Florida

timhoppers@gmail.com

Posted

There is no overwater but the rain. I have been covering the sick one, to avoid more ground humidity. The next days will be probably dry. But i have no hope. The others seem to be fine.

Charles, i didnt know about that meeting.

Posted

I hope they survive. I remember when you planted them.

Tim Hopper

St Augustine Florida

timhoppers@gmail.com

Posted

There is no overwater but the rain. I have been covering the sick one, to avoid more ground humidity. The next days will be probably dry. But i have no hope. The others seem to be fine.

Charles, i didnt know about that meeting.

I would cover them all Rafael, the rains could come back in force

Maybe even consider taking the sick plant out if it has phytophora rot it could spread to the healthy plants

Will tell you if another meeting happens, it was only a small group, we had lots of Bairrada champagne and lots of leitao

Charles Wychgel

Algarve/Portugal

Sunset zone 24

Posted

I confess i didnt understand the behaviour of this sick one, because, for almost a year, we had lots of rainfall, and it showed no stress. The irrigation sistem was scheduled and the dypsis decipiens were not receiving its water. I have a new gardener, since last september, and this morning i decided to check the irrigation sistem (wich was turned on a month ago, for the first time since september). I got the answer. Now it was hiting these three guys. So i think, as far as the sistem is scheduled again, they wont have problems anymore. But one loss i have for sure.

Charles, i love leitao and sarmentinho, so the next time tell me, and Jason too. Hugs.

  • 1 year later...
Posted

Nature has selected one to remain it seems and looking well.

Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

Posted

The sole survivor looks great!

A reminder not to give up on a whole species just because one specimen dies.

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