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I just noticed this on my juvenile leaf form Chamaerops. It's been a male up until this year, but appears to have gone hermaphroditic on me. Also my Chamaerops var. argentea went through a complete sex change from male to female. Is this common in Chamaerops or am I seeing things?

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Matt in Temecula, CA

Hot and dry in the summer, cold with light frost in the winter. Halfway between the desert and ocean

Posted

Matt,

I have 3 species that have the same trait as your Chamaerops, a mutant Chamaerops, Tracheycarpus wagnerianus and Rhapidophyllum hystrix. Even stranger, the specimen Chamaerops growing by my pool has 8 trunks, 7 being female and one trunk is a male. I'm positive all the trunks belong to the same plant.That's an excellent photograph showing the fruit forming mixed with the male flowers.

I guess it's not to unusual for Rhapidophyllum to have both sexes. I have one that some years has all male flowers and other years both sexes and it produces viable seeds. I was told once by Dr. Natalie Uhl that the botanical description for this phenomena, in what is normally a dioecious plant, is called polygamo-dioecious.

Dick

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Richard Douglas

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It takes after it's father.

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Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Posted

It takes after it's father.

Dean,

How about monitoring your nephew, and tell him to shave that ugly beard too!

Dick

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Richard Douglas

Posted

Matt,

I have 3 species that have the same trait as your Chamaerops, a mutant Chamaerops, Tracheycarpus wagnerianus and Rhapidophyllum hystrix. Even stranger, the specimen Chamaerops growing by my pool has 8 trunks, 7 being female and one trunk is a male. I'm positive all the trunks belong to the same plant.That's an excellent photograph showing the fruit forming mixed with the male flowers.

I guess it's not to unusual for Rhapidophyllum to have both sexes. I have one that some years has all male flowers and other years both sexes and it produces viable seeds. I was told once by Dr. Natalie Uhl that the botanical description for this phenomena, in what is normally a dioecious plant, is called polygamo-dioecious.

Dick

Hi Dick,

Thank you for the insight, it's pretty interesting that some can transform between sexes, naturally. Does the Trachycarupus set seed?

Matt

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Matt in Temecula, CA

Hot and dry in the summer, cold with light frost in the winter. Halfway between the desert and ocean

Posted

It takes after it's father.

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Matt in Temecula, CA

Hot and dry in the summer, cold with light frost in the winter. Halfway between the desert and ocean

Posted

It takes after it's father.

Dean,

How about monitoring your nephew, and tell him to shave that ugly beard too!

Dick

Sorry Dick. I was just giving Matt a nudge. He knows I was just light hearted joking with him. You don't need to call for the moderators, you can always talk to me, I'm pretty easy to get along with. By the way, you and my wife agree about the beard, that's for sure. I hope you have a good rest of the day.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Posted

Matt,

I was just being sarcastic too. I think we all have pretty thick skin in here, or at least I do.

Dick

Richard Douglas

Posted

Dang Dick! You got me! I totally thought you were offended and I didn't want to disrespect you. Ok dude, nice snark form, nice. It's like that Police Academy movie where the father and son show their affection for each other by exchanging punches to the face. :lol: So, what I'm trying to say is, "I love you man". :wub:

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Posted

Pretty cool Matt! Ive hear Dick talk about this before but never seen it, these pictures illustrate it nicely. My chamaerops is a male 3 years in a row now, nothing changing.

Rhapidophyllum hystrix is crazy too. And Trachycarpus. Didnt both of these genus used to be under Chamaerops?

Interestingly all three of this genera are listed under the subtribe of Thrinacinae. are any other genera in this subtribe known to be multi sexed?

Luke

Tallahassee, FL - USDA zone 8b/9a

63" rain annually

January avg 65/40 - July avg 92/73

North Florida Palm Society - http://palmsociety.blogspot.com/

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