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Great comparison shots Alberto! Seems to be a fast grower in your area! Jv

Jv in San Antonio Texas / Zone 8/extremes past 29 yrs: 117F (47.2C) / 8F (-13.3C)

Posted

Here is my Parajubaea sunkha in Los Angeles county 5 years ago, and followed by it now (top of top leaf about 10' or more)

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Posted

Woohoo. These things aren't slow at all.

Tyrone

Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

Posted

Congratulations Gary!!! You got a wonderfull specieman theredrool.gif I would say bag the inflorescence and let it produce some true to type seedssmilie.gif

What is the mature leaf size for each of the 4 Parajubaea from your experience and whats their mature trunk width?

Thank you very much in advance!smilie.gif

''To try,is to risk failure.......To not try,is to guarantee it''

Posted

Wow Geoff, that is a great comparison shot. Good growth too!!!! Jv

Jv in San Antonio Texas / Zone 8/extremes past 29 yrs: 117F (47.2C) / 8F (-13.3C)

Posted

After seeing all these great photos of P. Sunkha, I was prompted to plant one today. I could kick my butt for not planting it 2 years ago, as I'm sure it would be 2 or 3 times as large. All of the Parajubaeas seem to take off in growth once in the ground.

Dick

Richard Douglas

Posted

What a beautifull palms and that growth rates are amazing! :drool:

Southwest

Posted

These seem to grow much slower in the southeast, the way its looking it may take twice as long to get that size here! Oh well, guess it teaches a lesson in patience down here where other palms seem to grow pretty fast...

-Krishna

-Krishna

Kailua, Oahu HI. Near the beach but dry!

Still have a garden in Zone 9a Inland North Central Florida (Ocala)

Posted

Krishna.

Parajubaeas do not do well on the East coast, as they don't like a hot muggy climate. They seem to like Calif with our cool nights year round. I've never heard of a Parajubaea reaching maturity on the East coast. On the other hand, Sabals grow on the West coast, but only at about half the the rate as on the East coast. Stick with your Parajubaea hybrids and they should do well.

Dick

Richard Douglas

Posted

Krishna.

Parajubaeas do not do well on the East coast, as they don't like a hot muggy climate. They seem to like Calif with our cool nights year round. I've never heard of a Parajubaea reaching maturity on the East coast. On the other hand, Sabals grow on the West coast, but only at about half the the rate as on the East coast. Stick with your Parajubaea hybrids and they should do well.

Dick

Dick,

Like Eric (Leu Gardens) and I have said, our Parajubaea sunkha look very healthy here (mine even recovered from spear pull after the nasty winter and has sent up two healthy green spears since winter), they just are slow. I wouldn't expect any sunkhas to be mature here yet as they grow very slowly here (and havent they been fairly rare until relatively recently?). Dont try to dash our dreams :mrlooney:

-Krishna

P.S. Dont tell what you just said to our plants, last thing they need to hear is that and then up and die!

-Krishna

Kailua, Oahu HI. Near the beach but dry!

Still have a garden in Zone 9a Inland North Central Florida (Ocala)

  • 2 months later...
Posted

......and today. How long have I to wait for an inflorescence???

Whoa!

That's fast!

Hmm.

Maybe what I thought was a tor-tor was really a sunkha . . . . .

Let's keep our forum fun and friendly.

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Posted

Do you guys think Parajubea sunkha would have a chance in up-slope south Kona, Hawaii Island? Or maybe I should ask which Parajubea species is more likely to succeed in a tropical situation?

Gary, I hope this first inflorescens will work for you, especially knowing that with many palms often the first will abort. I don't like to be negative but that is often the reality of it all. Anyway, good luck! BTW, your tree goos very nice. Makes me wanna grow one!

Alberto, very nice P. sunkha you have too.

Hawaii Island (Big Island), leeward coast, 19 degrees N. latitude, south Kona mauka at approx. 380m (1,250 ft.) and about 1.6 km (1-mile) upslope from ocean.

 

No record of a hurricane passing over this island (yet!).  

Summer maximum rainfall - variable averaging 900-1150mm (35-45") - Perfect drainage on black volcanic rocky soil.  

Nice sunsets!

Posted

Do you guys think Parajubea sunkha would have a chance in up-slope south Kona, Hawaii Island? Or maybe I should ask which Parajubea species is more likely to succeed in a tropical situation?

Gary, I hope this first inflorescens will work for you, especially knowing that with many palms often the first will abort. I don't like to be negative but that is often the reality of it all. Anyway, good luck! BTW, your tree goos very nice. Makes me wanna grow one!

Alberto, very nice P. sunkha you have too.

It survives and looks nice in Florida (I have one and Leu Gardens has one) but is slower than most of my other palms. It only grows during the Fall, Winter, and Spring and seems to stop growing when it gets warmer (which is most of the year). I dont know what your climate is like there but hope this helps!

-Krishna

-Krishna

Kailua, Oahu HI. Near the beach but dry!

Still have a garden in Zone 9a Inland North Central Florida (Ocala)

Posted

Gary

Congradulations and good show on the plant.

I would be much obliged if you would send some photos (jpgs) of the tree and the spathe when it opens.

A close up of the flowers would be very interesting to me.

Best regards

Ed Brown

edbrown_32003@yahoo.com

Posted

Gary

Congradulations and good show on the plant.

I would be much obliged if you would send some photos (jpgs) of the tree and the spathe when it opens.

A close up of the flowers would be very interesting to me.

Best regards

Ed Brown

edbrown_32003@yahoo.com

I will do that before I cut them off. It has been very slow growing but the first spathe is just about ready to open.

Gary

Rock Ridge Ranch

South Escondido

5 miles ENE Rancho Bernardo

33.06N 117W, Elevation 971 Feet

Posted

Gary,

Much obliged and good to hear from you

Ed

Posted

I see Alberto is ready to pop the cork!! :D

I hope very soon...when it flowers!!!:rolleyes:

Hi Al!! Thank you!I also like it very much!

Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

Posted

Alberto, I think it might flower this year !!!

I have tried 3 times with parajubs and they always die here, makes me crazy !!

Resident in Bristol UK.

Webshop for hardy palms and hybrid seeds www.hardy-palms.co.uk

  • 1 year later...
Posted

......and today. How long have I to wait for an inflorescence???

I guessed seven years for mine Alberto, but mine was planted smaller than yours. From the looks of yours you have two years left to flower. That is also a very beautiful specimen, just love Sunkha.

Gary

This answer from Garry Levine was given 1 year and 8 months ago!!!!!

Surprise! Probably the first (?) P.sunkha will flower soon in Brazil.rolleyes.gif

I´ll have pollen to cross with Butia erioapatha and also will self pollenate !!

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Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

Posted

Very nice, my guess was right on.

Gary

Rock Ridge Ranch

South Escondido

5 miles ENE Rancho Bernardo

33.06N 117W, Elevation 971 Feet

Posted

Yes! you have a crystal ball!biggrin.gif

Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

Posted

Nice!

I didn't care too much for Parajubaeas until I saw the P. cocoides at Palm Island in Garden Grove :drool:

  • 1 year later...
Posted

Would be nice to see updated photos of both Gary's and Alberto's P. sunkha :interesting:

Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

  • 1 month later...
Posted

Would be nice to see updated photos of both Gary's and Alberto's P. sunkha :interesting:

i second that :interesting::bemused:

"it's not dead it's sleeping"

Santee ca, zone10a/9b

18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

  • 1 month later...
Posted

Bump....

any update?

Inquiring minds want2know.

Cheers.

Posted

Pant pant pant, slobber, urk. :drool:

Let's keep our forum fun and friendly.

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Posted

I emailed them individually asking for updates....

they said they will.

Keep panting Mr Doom.

:floor:

Posted

Here is my two sunkha today, full of seed also. They are about 15' tall, standard shovel leaned up against a trunk for scale.

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Rock Ridge Ranch

South Escondido

5 miles ENE Rancho Bernardo

33.06N 117W, Elevation 971 Feet

Posted

:drool:

"it's not dead it's sleeping"

Santee ca, zone10a/9b

18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

Posted

Absolutely gorgeous palms Gary!

Posted

Thanks guys, they are a couple of my nicer palms.

Rock Ridge Ranch

South Escondido

5 miles ENE Rancho Bernardo

33.06N 117W, Elevation 971 Feet

Posted

Here it´st´s cold,rainy, foggy with dizzle for almost 2 weeks now, I´m waiting for the sun to make some photos of my sunkhas. Two are flowering now.

Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

  • 4 weeks later...
Posted

First pic shows the last inflorescence and it is the first time that the fruits are not falling .

Second pic shows two other younger P.sunkha.

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Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

Posted

The quality of the pics aren´t OK.....

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Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

Posted

One of the many favorites in your garden Gary and very fast growth

Old Beach ,Hobart
Tasmania ,Australia. 42 " south
Cool Maritime climate

Posted

So are the undersides of Sunkha all silver or do they have any bronze?

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Posted

So are the undersides of Sunkha all silver or do they have any bronze?

Are you talking about the leaf blades or the petioles? I have never seen bronze on the leaf blade undersides on any parajubaea, maybe I haven't looked hard enough.

Axel at the Mauna Kea Cloudforest Bioreserve

On Mauna Kea above Hilo. Koeppen Zone Cfb (Montane Tropical Cloud Forest), USDA Hardiness Zone 11b/12a, AHS Heat zone 1 (max 78F), annual rainfall: 130-180", Soil pH 5.

Click here for our current conditions: KHIHILO25

Posted

I believe he is talking about the leaflet undersides. I have seen some that have a "bronze-y" tint & some that are whitish,not sure which species is which.

the "prince of snarkness."

 

still "warning-free."

 

san diego,california,left coast.

Posted

Yeah, I'm talking about the undersides of the leaflets. I ask because I have a plant labled as P. sunkha that, now that it's getting a little bigger, is showing bronzey undersides of the leaflets. I don't see that color on any of the ones pictured above in this thread.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Posted

So are the undersides of Sunkha all silver or do they have any bronze?

I took a look at my 4 near adult palms and the undersides are white/grey. The underside of the 3 strap leaves seedlings is green...BUT the young palm with the first 4-5 pinate leaves clearly shows a bronze tinge to it!

Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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