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Chuniophoenix in California

Geoff

By Geoff
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Geoff Mentor

Geoff

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I have a pair of Chuniophoenix- supposedly one of each. And it looks so far like that may be the case though the hainensis seems sort of nana-like. It started out about 1/3 the size of the nana, and now it is as tall, and leaf spread seems a bit larger... but it is flowering at a size I wouldn't have expected it to... so now I am wondering again if I just have two nanas. First photo is Chuniophoenix nana... next photo is what is supposed to be hainensis. last photo is a bad shot of both, though only way I could fit them into the same shot was to stand above them, so not a great photo.

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Eric in Orlando Grand Master

Eric in Orlando

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I think the 2nd one is C. nana also. C. hainanensis has a much larger leaf and spread

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Eric

Orlando, FL

zone 9b/10a

John Case Grand Master

John Case

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Geoff,

How did you obtain these?

John Case

Brentwood CA

Owner and curator of Hana Keu Garden

USDA Zone 9b more or less, Sunset Zone 14 in winter 9 in summer

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Geoff Mentor

Geoff

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Got them from a pretty reputable source bare root... I was worried about that... bummer. I know hainensis has a much larger fuller leaf, but it was still young so I was hoping.

Matt in SD Veteran

Matt in SD

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Geoff,

It's sort of hard to tell from your photos. But I got two C hainanensis from Floribunda about 7 years ago, and one of the two turned out to be C nana, so it's definitely possible. My hainanensis is very slow, it still just has leaves coming out of the ground. The nana has a few trunks and has been flowering for a few years already. The hainenensis is near some bamboo so root competition is at least part of the slow growth issue. The leaves on the hainanensis are at least 2 feet across, much bigger than nana, but they are much more divided than Eric's photo.

And just to clarify...Floribunda is one of the best sources for palms out there. Stuff happens, and when you're buying seedlings, there is always the risk that seeds were mixed up or incorrectly identified by the seed collector or supplier.

It doesn't happen too often from the best places (like Floribunda) but still does happen occaisonally.

Matt

San Diego

0.6 Acres of a south facing, gently sloped dirt pile, soon to be impenetrable jungle

East of Mount Soledad, in the biggest cold sink in San Diego County.

Zone 10a (I hope), Sunset 24

Matt in SD Veteran

Matt in SD

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Just noticed that your first palm is suckering. Definitely not hainanensis.

San Diego

0.6 Acres of a south facing, gently sloped dirt pile, soon to be impenetrable jungle

East of Mount Soledad, in the biggest cold sink in San Diego County.

Zone 10a (I hope), Sunset 24

LJG Grand Master

LJG

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Just noticed that your first palm is suckering. Definitely not hainanensis.

Hainanensis will sucker. But usually much larger. Right now Rancho has a monster one in the Palmetum that is a show plant. Multiple trunks with one being 7 feet tall. I never knew how pretty of plant it is untill it gets some size. It has a lot of white power on the psuedo-crownshaft.

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

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-- Alfred Austin

DoomsDave Grand Master

DoomsDave

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Geoff:

I think you've got two nanas. (I've got at least three.)

Do keep trying to get hainanensis, and let us know where when you do!

Nana's wonderful, cute as a button, flowers and seeds young, gets to about 3 feet tall after 30 years (the Hoopers have a couple, too).

Let's keep our forum fun and friendly.

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metalfan Grand Master

metalfan

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Wow I guess mine is on steroids. It got to 4 ft tall in only about 2 years

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metalfan Grand Master

metalfan

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Wow I guess mine is on steroids. It got to 4 ft tall in only about 2 yearspost-1009-12756096135918_thumb.jpg

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