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Struggling Palms

obabylive

By obabylive
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obabylive Enthusiast

obabylive

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I've had these palms in the ground for approx. 7 years. They are just surviving, not growing much. The last 3 years they have been in decline-nutrient deficient leaves, heat beaten, 1 or 2 leaves growth a year and put on no height. I've tried more water, fertilizer, micro-nutrients etc, with no improvement. They get plenty of sun (western exposure). They are next to, or near plants that have been doing very well over the same period of time. Is there anything not mentioned I might try revive these plants or should I just rip out and start anew.

Livistona Saribus

Colpothrinax Wrightii

Wrightii, the little pant next to the Copernicia Yarey planted at the same time

Kumar Veteran

Kumar

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I notice a few of the leaves are partly green - therefore presume the leaf was green and it turned yellow. If so, it may be a nitrogen deficiency. Are you using organic compost?

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Bombay, India

Sea Level | Average Temperature Range 23 - 32 deg. celsius | Annual rainfall 3400.0 mm

Calcutta, India

Sea Level | Average Temperature Range 19 - 33 deg. celsius | Annual rainfall 1600.0 mm

DoomsDave Grand Master

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Mr. Kingsby!

So good to see you back again!

I was just thinking about you! Wondering where you'd been for so long!

Hmm.

My informants advise me that L. saribus isn't a great plant for hot sun when small, though they do like tropical heat. In desert AZ, of course, you get uber-tropical heat.

So, for what it's worth (and I'm far from the last word) maybe your L. saribus are a lost cause, to be replaced by something that will grow well, of which there are a number, including, even maybe possibly, the coconut, if you don't get frost.

But, let's see what others may say . . . .

Let's keep our forum fun and friendly.

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Lowey Experienced

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Only a wild guess but, perhaps your soil is a bit acidic, have you tried using some lime or dolomite to alter the PH? :blink:

Bruce

Innisfail - NQ AUS - 3600mm of rain a year average or around 144inches if you prefer - Temp Range 9c to 43c

peachy Grand Master

peachy

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With so many species that will do well for you, why bother with ingrates that just give you a guilt trip ? I used to have a garden full of sicklies, dead and dyings until I learnt to be ruthless. If its sick and beyond help, it goes. If I realise I dont like it after all, it gets dug up and given away. I think I will always be a zone pusher as sometimes it actualy works out, but I am also prepared to ditch the failures. Be brave and strong....chuck 'em.

Peachy

I came. I saw. I purchased

 

 

27.35 south.

Warm subtropical, with occasional frosts.

DoomsDave Grand Master

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Soil acidic?

In the desert?

Like, there's too many trees?

Well, no.

Let's keep our forum fun and friendly.

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aztropic Grand Master

aztropic

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I would dig them both out and throw them back into pots in the shade with plenty of water.If anything,it appears to be lack of water and desert soil that is keeping them yellow.

By the way,how is your Pseudophoenix coming along?

aztropic

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Mesa, Arizona

 

Temps between 29F and 115F each year

Lowey Experienced

Lowey

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Soil acidic?

In the desert?

Like, there's too many trees?

Well, no.

Well excuse me for making a suggestion, lots of old farm land that has been then used for housing is acidic, how am I to know that this is not the case here.

What was your helpfull suggestion again, (But, let's see what others may say . . . .) is that so you can shoot them down.

Bruce

Innisfail - NQ AUS - 3600mm of rain a year average or around 144inches if you prefer - Temp Range 9c to 43c

obabylive Enthusiast

obabylive

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Thanks very much for everyones feedback. Thinking of potting them up and trying something else. I grew up two blocks North of my current location that was commercial farmland (cotton, corn, etc) so my soil may be alkaline but better than most. In 18 yrears here my lowest temp has be 29F since I've been keeping records.

Dave, glad to know you still remember me, the wife and talk of our visists to your old place often. I still have some of your plants in my yard.

Though I've been listening, I just haven't' been posting and a career change 4 yrs ago stole some of my passion, but I'm back.

Aztropics' the Pseudophoenix is doing fine a little slow but I'm yet to lose only a few fronds to growth, know its been in the ground about 6 yrs.

Still in contact with all the Phoenix palmaholics (we just had a meeting/sale today) that post here and I'm sure there are many others I'm yet to meet. Most people in Florida and Cali may be surprised at what we are growing in the desert here. My Bizzie is taller than my 2 story home. Will post pix soon.

Thanks, Obenia (OB)

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