Juania australis

[AJQ]

I have a small Juania that got badly hit by this winter, It was unfortunate that it had only been planted out for a year so had not really had chance to get established; there is still green on the trunk and I noticed today some green inside / adjacent to the base of the old fried spears.

These seem to be moving slowly so I guess there is still life in there yet. I was just wondering whether to dig it up and re-pot and leave it indoors for a couple of years to recover or just let it be but with mega extra winter protection. It is small enough to protect but was just wondering whether these are easily transplanted. For the record my larger one which I have had planted out for 5 years came through this winter with only minor damage and is romping away now.

Your thoughts would be most appreciated.

Regards Andy.

[DoomsDave]

tRANSPLANTED?

Getting one of those things to grow is tough, let alone transplant.

That said, I'm curious, too!

[Alberto]

............or just let it be but with mega extra winter protection.

Regards Andy.

Poor thing was hit by artic cold and you´re planning to cut halve the roots and put it in a pot....Three shocks!!!

I´d just let it be but with mega extra winter protection like you said. It will have a better chance with an intact root system! And hope the best!

[Tyrone]

I concur with the above responses. I wouldn't shock it by moving it. If it's just marginal for your worst winters, and presuming it lives to see the next winter, I'd cover it and see how it goes. It may come back stronger than ever. This is a species that if you look at it wrong it dies. Digging up a stressed plant and then putting it inside will likely kill this sensitive species IMHO, for what it's worth.

Mark the spear and see if it's moving. If not, give it some seaweed extract and wait. I'd give it some seaweed emulsion anyway. I've had palms wait until the following winter after transplanting to even move the spear.

Best regards

Tyrone

[peachy]

Tyrone just pinched my favorite tip of the day. I would mulch it to the gills and regular doses of seaweed liquid, leaves and all. Use an organic mulch like lucerne or hay or similar, something that creates heat as it breaks down.

Peachy

[Roaringwater]

Andy, I successfully moved one which had been in the ground for a year or two. I had planted a group of three, but two were struck down by rot one warm, wet summer. The survivor was on slightly higher ground, but I thought it best to move it to a distant part of the garden where the soil is sandy. The roots did not go down too far, and I was able to lift the palm without damaging them. It has prospered in its new spot, and has now been joined by two smaller specimens.

[Tassie_Troy1971]

I would love the chance to grow one in this cool climate but i doubt that i will ever see one in my lifetime

[Roaringwater]

Is it true that no more palm species are allowed into Aus, if they are not already cultivated there? Other than that, I think that some of the biggest Juanias outside Chile (at Earlscliffe in Ireland, Oakland Palmetum, and Landsendt in Auckland) must be reaching flowering size. There really needs to be a pollen-exchange programme. Here is a link to a photo of the Earlscliffe specimen:

My link

Scroll down to Kristof's post.

[Jonathan]

Is it true that no more palm species are allowed into Aus, if they are not already cultivated there? Other than that, I think that some of the biggest Juanias outside Chile (at Earlscliffe in Ireland, Oakland Palmetum, and Landsendt in Auckland) must be reaching flowering size. There really needs to be a pollen-exchange programme. Here is a link to a photo of the Earlscliffe specimen:

My link

Scroll down to Kristof's post.

No its not true - you can bring in any species as long as it is a known (ie. named) species.

I recently tried to import seed for Ravanea spp. cycadifolia and guess what? It got siezed - so I wont try that again.

The main import restriction is hygene. Any traces of fungus and its all over.

I think you people out there with Juania's approaching seeding size have a moral imperative to send seeds to Tasmania, as we have one of the very few ideal climates for growing it!

Cheers,

Jonathan

[Tassie_Troy1971]

Is it true that no more palm species are allowed into Aus, if they are not already cultivated there? Other than that, I think that some of the biggest Juanias outside Chile (at Earlscliffe in Ireland, Oakland Palmetum, and Landsendt in Auckland) must be reaching flowering size. There really needs to be a pollen-exchange programme. Here is a link to a photo of the Earlscliffe specimen:

My link

Scroll down to Kristof's post.

No its not true - you can bring in any species as long as it is a known (ie. named) species.

I recently tried to import seed for Ravanea spp. cycadifolia and guess what? It got siezed - so I wont try that again.

The main import restriction is hygene. Any traces of fungus and its all over.

I think you people out there with Juania's approaching seeding size have a moral imperative to send seeds to Tasmania, as we have one of the very few ideal climates for growing it!

Cheers,

Jonathan

I second that Jonathan

conditions here given supplemental moisture should be perfect .

[nomolos]

Is it true that no more palm species are allowed into Aus, if they are not already cultivated there? Other than that, I think that some of the biggest Juanias outside Chile (at Earlscliffe in Ireland, Oakland Palmetum, and Landsendt in Auckland) must be reaching flowering size. There really needs to be a pollen-exchange programme. Here is a link to a photo of the Earlscliffe specimen:

My link

Scroll down to Kristof's post.

No its not true - you can bring in any species as long as it is a known (ie. named) species.

I recently tried to import seed for Ravanea spp. cycadifolia and guess what? It got siezed - so I wont try that again.

The main import restriction is hygene. Any traces of fungus and its all over.

I think you people out there with Juania's approaching seeding size have a moral imperative to send seeds to Tasmania, as we have one of the very few ideal climates for growing it!

Cheers,

Jonathan

I second that Jonathan

conditions here given supplemental moisture should be perfect .

here here

[richnorm]

Is it true that no more palm species are allowed into Aus, if they are not already cultivated there? Other than that, I think that some of the biggest Juanias outside Chile (at Earlscliffe in Ireland, Oakland Palmetum, and Landsendt in Auckland) must be reaching flowering size. There really needs to be a pollen-exchange programme. Here is a link to a photo of the Earlscliffe specimen:

My link

Scroll down to Kristof's post.

You are thinking of NZ. New species can be added to the offcial list of permitted plants but at great expense and considerable difficulty.

[AJQ]

Some good news for a change. I'm glad I did not dig this one up.

The base of the petioles have been slowly expanding/moving apart from each other and there is a very slight movement in vertical growth on the fried petioles/fronds. A couple of days ago I noticed some new green growth appearing from within, although it didn't look like a spear.

I appears now that it is probably a new spear but just finding an alternative way out into the brave new world. There may have been some sort of constriction in its normal path so has sought an alternative way out. I shall keep an eye on its progress and take some photos in a couple of weeks when hopefully more of the spear will have emerged by then.

Regards Andy.

[nomolos]

Thats good, keep us updated.

[AJQ]

Here are some photos of it's recovery and a few shots of Big Brother which is romping away quite nicely.

Regards Andy.

[JasonD]

Is it true that no more palm species are allowed into Aus, if they are not already cultivated there? Other than that, I think that some of the biggest Juanias outside Chile (at Earlscliffe in Ireland, Oakland Palmetum, and Landsendt in Auckland) must be reaching flowering size. There really needs to be a pollen-exchange programme. Here is a link to a photo of the Earlscliffe specimen:

My link

Scroll down to Kristof's post.

The largest in the San Francisco Bay Area is the sole specimen at the San Francisco Botanical Garden. It has begun to show clear trunk but no sign of flowering yet. The foliage remains atrociously yellow, as if it has potassium deficiency or a virus.

The ones at the Oakland Palmetum do not yet show trunk. Let's hope a male-female combination survives the usual mystery pathogens and vandalism to reproductive maturity there.

[AJQ]

Mine was quite yellow looking when it was first planted. I was told to put in several rows of 6 inch Iron nails in two rows around the base of the palm. It greened up pretty quickly has has looked good ever since.

Regards Andy.

[AJQ]

OK, here are a couple of updated pictures, 2 weeks on it looks like it is making a comeback thank goodness.

Regards Andy.

[Alberto]

OK, here are a couple of updated pictures, 2 weeks on it looks like it is making a comeback thank goodness.

Regards Andy.

Glad to see it is recovering!!!

[John in Andalucia]

How's your recovering Juania looking, Andy?

[AJQ]

John,

The smaller Juania did not survive the second really bad winter despite protection. 6 weeks in Narnia did for it.

The larger Juania did survive 6 weeks in Narnia. It had a pop up fleece and a large garden Parasol over it, that was it.

It had sustained major damage with defoliation of 3 good fronds, 50% damage to another 2.

It has since grown back 2 fronds one with minor tip damage, one pristine undamaged and a new spear. I will post some photos over the next couple of days.

On the strength of the success with this one I have managed to obtain another largish one, this has been planted out the front garden where the Butyagrus used to be, unfortunately the Butyagrus did not make it either.

Regards Andy.

Edited September 22, 2011 by AJQ

[Alberto]

................unfortunately the Butyagrus did not make it either.

Andy ,is your Juania hardier than a Butyagrus?

[AJQ]

John, some updated photos.

Alberto, yes, it would appear that the Juania is more hardy than the Butyagrus, well in my part of the world anyway.

They were only a few meters apart!

Regards Andy.

[AJQ]

Some of the damage to last years fronds.

Regards Andy.

[AJQ]

Last one. Seems the recovery is definitely underway.

Regards Andy.