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Here's the story,

When I first moved into my place, I thought to myself, "that would be really cool to line my long driveway with queen palms". Well, I did it and have not been happy with the decision for a couple years, as I feel it (CAUTION: PALM SNOB COMMENT TO FOLLOW) cheapens the look of my garden. I know it would still look pretty good, but just not something unusual and majestic.

The queens are planted 24feet on center, so I decided that I could plant something in between each one, and either keep the queens or (CAUTION: PALM SNOB COMMENT #2 TO FOLLOW) chainsaw them at ground level (easiest way to get rid of them) when the others reached apx 6' tall.

So I've been racking my brains for a while now, trying to decide what to plant. I finally decided on a palm, Bismarkia should look great, be unusual, still be cold hardy, with an added bonus of being fast growing.

Well, I was speaking with Randy (Yachtingone) a few weeks back and asked what he thought of my idea (which he liked) and mentioned his five gallons Bismarckia for sale at a smoking price. Done deal. Randy then mentioned he had some other palms for sale that might go nicely as well, and fit all my criteria, Beccariophoenix alfredii. "Why not alternate Bismarkia and Beccariophoenix down the driveway" he said. He had some really nice five gallons for sale, also for a great price. I thought it was a killer idea, so here's a few pics.

Eleven Bismarkia and Eleven Beccariophoenix loaded in the pickup.

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A view the way it looked with just the potentially doomed queens.

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A couple shots with the palms centered between the Queens.

Looking up

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Looking down

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Matt in Temecula, CA

Hot and dry in the summer, cold with light frost in the winter. Halfway between the desert and ocean

Posted

I dug, planted, setup the drip lines, and cut all the rabit cages on Sunday. I tried to take an "after picture", but with queens and the Rock Rose, you can't see any of the palms, so here's a shot of one of the planted Beccario.

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Thanks again Randy for the amazing deal on the palms and all the other loot you hooked me up with. For those that have never been to his place, he has a killer garden and a lot of great palms and cycads for sale.

Matt

Matt in Temecula, CA

Hot and dry in the summer, cold with light frost in the winter. Halfway between the desert and ocean

Posted

You know, this is going to be freaking awesome when they get big!

Keith 

Palmetto, Florida (10a) and Tampa, Florida (9b/10a)

Posted

Good selection to go with the Queen palms. Actually I think the Queens look good by themselves, but the Bizzies and B alfredii will just add to the beauty. That driveway is going to look killer in a few years!

Formerly Jeff in Costa Rica
 

Posted (edited)

This is gonna look awesome in a couple years, nice palm choice :) .

Jonathan

Edited by Xenon

Jonathan

Katy, TX (Zone 9a)

Posted

Geeze Matt, that is one heck of a driveway! Oh yeah it's gonna look awesome. A couple of the queens though

would add some height and a bit of verticality. Or maybe something a bit more exotic.

Tim

Hilo, Hawaii

Posted (edited)

Great selection of the palms, we have similar taste. U will have best driveway ever in 10ish years :winkie:

Edited by Dundo
Posted

You may want to keep the Queens when the whole drive is looking awesome. :D

William

Hana, Maui

 

Land of the low lying heavens, the misty Uakea crowning the majestic Kauwiki.

Visit my palms here

Posted

I think the Queens look amazing! Can't wait to see it with the new palms :D

Adam 

 

Posted

I'm in agreement, keep the Queens. You have enough spacing with them in place. They may be common, but as we've seen in other posts, they can be quite dramatic when grown well. Besides, I just couldn't kill so many mature palms on purposessad.gif !!!!!!!.

Posted

And the crowd chants......Keep the Queens! Keep the Queens!

David Simms zone 9a on Highway 30a

200 steps from the Gulf in NW Florida

30 ft. elevation and sandy soil

Posted

And the crowd chants......Keep the Queens! Keep the Queens!

No, I think you heard wrong, must be too much noise, I can hear them shouting "Cheap with Queens" or "Chop the Queens" perhaps. :lol:

Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

Posted

Geez Matt, that's not your drive....is it? Looks like the road leading up to Hearst Castle!

 

 

Posted

Thank you for the kind words everyone. I think the queens have about a 75% chance of survival.

And Gonz, not Hearst, Worst Castle :)

Matt in Temecula, CA

Hot and dry in the summer, cold with light frost in the winter. Halfway between the desert and ocean

Posted

very nice

Posted

What a great driveway, wide as the roads in my neighborhood. It'll look great in a few years.

Meg

Palms of Victory I shall wear

Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise)
Florida
Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal
Elevation: 15 feet

I'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade.

Posted

What a huge driveway Matt ! I salute your use of bismarckias - I wish there were more of those in my city.

____________________

Kumar

Bombay, India

Sea Level | Average Temperature Range 23 - 32 deg. celsius | Annual rainfall 3400.0 mm

Calcutta, India

Sea Level | Average Temperature Range 19 - 33 deg. celsius | Annual rainfall 1600.0 mm

Posted

Queens, Royals, CIDP or Archontophoenix are commonly used to line driveways around here. Not long ago a friend got rid of a lovely curving avenue of queen palms and her place looks much poorer for it. A combination of palms like you currently have should look amazing in time. Wish I had the space to do something like that myself. San Simeon (Hearst Castle) is a lovely homey house and I wish it was up for sale. As they say in France, its Tres Moi.

Peachy

I came. I saw. I purchased

 

 

27.35 south.

Warm subtropical, with occasional frosts.

Posted

Matt,

I'm warming up the chainsaw!wink-1.gif

Randy

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test

Posted

A Bismarckia and Beccariophoenix lined driveway with a nice curve to it, that is going to be a major PRA destination in the future! Queens? Eh, maybe. Wait and see...

Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
All characters  in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

Posted

Here's the story,

When I first moved into my place, I thought to myself, "that would be really cool to line my long driveway with queen palms". Well, I did it and have not been happy with the decision for a couple years, as I feel it (CAUTION: PALM SNOB COMMENT TO FOLLOW) cheapens the look of my garden. I know it would still look pretty good, but just not something unusual and majestic.

The queens are planted 24feet on center, so I decided that I could plant something in between each one, and either keep the queens or (CAUTION: PALM SNOB COMMENT #2 TO FOLLOW) chainsaw them at ground level (easiest way to get rid of them) when the others reached apx 6' tall.

So I've been racking my brains for a while now, trying to decide what to plant. I finally decided on a palm, Bismarkia should look great, be unusual, still be cold hardy, with an added bonus of being fast growing.

Well, I was speaking with Randy (Yachtingone) a few weeks back and asked what he thought of my idea (which he liked) and mentioned his five gallons Bismarckia for sale at a smoking price. Done deal. Randy then mentioned he had some other palms for sale that might go nicely as well, and fit all my criteria, Beccariophoenix alfredii. "Why not alternate Bismarkia and Beccariophoenix down the driveway" he said. He had some really nice five gallons for sale, also for a great price. I thought it was a killer idea, so here's a few pics.

Eleven Bismarkia and Eleven Beccariophoenix loaded in the pickup.

IMAG0037.jpg

A view the way it looked with just the potentially doomed queens.

IMAG0038.jpg

A couple shots with the palms centered between the Queens.

Looking up

IMAG0042.jpg

Looking down

IMAG0048.jpg

those queens are thinking "uh oh,i dont like the way those new-comers are looking at us!" :lol:

bizzies are a good choice,i planted them all around my property along the street.

the "prince of snarkness."

 

still "warning-free."

 

san diego,california,left coast.

Posted

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1. Paul, did you really need to quote the entire photo-post? Did you think we would not know what you're refering too?

2. Randy, you searched the internet for a pic of Leatherface and that's the best you could come up with? That is not Leatherface. I know Leatherface and that's not him.

3. Matt, consider yourself luck I even looked at this thread considering it has Queen Palms in it.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Posted

Now that I got that out of my system; on a more serious note:

I like the Queen Palm look. The fact that they'll grow so much faster and taller than the Bizzies and Beccarios will give that staggered and layered look without creating too much over crowding. I bet it'll look great. I think you should keep the Queens, just imagining it in my minds eye. Nice work brother, thanks for the pics.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Posted

i agree it was inappropriate to re-post the whole thing,but i was in a hurry. my oatmeal was getting cold. :unsure:

the "prince of snarkness."

 

still "warning-free."

 

san diego,california,left coast.

Posted

Awesome private drive! I too will add my voice to the "Keep The Queens!" chant. :lol:

That is going to look fantastic in a few years! Great choice! :greenthumb:

Posted

Keep the Queens!!! Your drive will look great in a few years with the bizzies and the B. alfrediis and you´ll be an inspiration to palm snobs everywhere! Peter

Peter

hot and humid, short rainy season May through October, 14* latitude, 90* longitude

Posted

For the first time in a long time,

I seem to agree with the majority. Save the queens. Sure, they look common now, but filed in along with Bizzies and Beccarios? That will look intense! Plus, there are things you can do to make queens look a little more unique.

Look at this one, for example. I've never seen anyone do this with a queen. Kind of looks cool. I don't know if it's good for the palm to be shaved and cut like it is, but it seems like you're not too concerned with the well being of it anyways.

As for the palm snobs, Tell 'em to crap in their hands! Sometimes those little La Jolla Weenies forget that we all don't live in their climate, and have to grow what will look good for us, year round. Because out here in the I.E., we do more than shoot Bo-Tox!

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Living in the valley of the dirt people in the inland empire, "A mullet on every head and a methlab in every kitchen." If you can't afford to live in the tropics, then bring the tropics to you!

Posted

The alfredii and bismarks will take a while to be

noticeable, better leave the queens for a while anyway.

That's an awesome driveway.

Bayside Tree Farms is located in Homestead Florida USA
(305) 245-9544

Posted

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Did that hurt?

The queens are next!

test

Posted

Did you mean?....

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Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Posted

Great looking driveway..... once saw a driveway like that lined with Jubs, maybe you could plant a couple of them as well???? (For the next generation!) Jv

Jv in San Antonio Texas / Zone 8/extremes past 29 yrs: 117F (47.2C) / 8F (-13.3C)

Posted

As for the palm snobs, Tell 'em to crap in their hands! Sometimes those little La Jolla Weenies forget that we all don't live in their climate, and have to grow what will look good for us, year round. Because out here in the I.E., we do more than shoot Bo-Tox!

That's some serious snark or rather a version lower known as shark snark.

Out here in the Internet Explorer we do more than shoot Bo-tox ???? Say what ?

Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

Posted

Luck "Y" Matt, Luck "Y".

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

Posted

Thanks again all for the good words guys and gals, I am truly surprised that the majority are in the "save the queen" group. I thought for sure, they'd be lined up, torches in hand. We'll see in a couple of years.

Nice Snarkasm Matteo, you had to, those boys were just begging for it, with Paul violating one of the most basic posting rules and Randy putting down with that weak leatherface.

Matt in Temecula, CA

Hot and dry in the summer, cold with light frost in the winter. Halfway between the desert and ocean

Posted

I'm practicing now Matt!

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I have my best leatherface on! Tough to see in this pic.

test

Posted

And the crowd chants......Keep the Queens! Keep the Queens!

I'm with the group to keep the queens.

I was thinking the exact same thing as MattyB, and then I came across his post and it mirrored my exact thoughts.

If you water & fert. the hell out of those queens then they'll get up and above your Beccie's and Bizzies and give you a very nice, tiered look.

By the time your new palms get any size on them, those queens should have quite a few feet of trunk, and they might even provide a bit of overhead protection if it ever does get super-cold there again.

Your driveway looks great now and it will look even better in a few years. Nice!

Oakley, California

55 Miles E-NE of San Francisco, CA

Solid zone 9, I can expect at least one night in the mid to low twenties every year.

Hot, dry summers. Cold, wet winters.

Posted

Keep the Queens, and consider yourself lucky to have them. The best I could do out here is Washingtonias or Sabals, and even the Washingtonias get burned most years out here. Looks great with just the Queens, will be awesome once the others get big too.

Martin Farris, San Angelo, TX

San Angelo Cold Hardy Palms and Cycads

Jul - 92F/69F, Jan - 55F/31F

Lows:

02-03: 18F;

03-04: 19F;

04-05: 17F;

05-06: 11F;

06-07: 13F;

07-08: 14F 147.5 Freezing Degree-Hours http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?sh...ee+hours\;

08-09: 23F;

09-10: 12F 467.6 Freezing Degree Hours, Average Temperature During Freeze 24.2F;

10-11: 13F 1,059.5 Freezing Degree Hours with Strong Winds/Rain/Snow/Sleet, Average Temperature During Freeze 19.4F;

Record low -4F in 1989 (High of 36F that p.m.) 1,125.2 freezing degree hours, Average Temperature During Freeze 13.6F;

Record Freeze 1983: 2,300.3 Freezing Degree Hours with a low of 5F, Average Temperature During Freeze 13.7F.

Posted

Freaky one,

Can I jump on the queen palm band wagon?

I'll put awat the chainsaw and take off my mask!

test

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