livistona fulva

[gyuseppe]

and true that livistona fulva and very resistant to cold?

[Walter John]

I feel it is true yes. I've seen their natural habitat, must get very cold there at times. These are usually hard to locate at nurseries, the seed as well I assume. I lost mine attempting to transplant, but have since found another.

[Geoff]

we got a 2007 cold snap in southern California and my fulva was completely defoliated (it was only about 3' tall, though). Nearby Livistona saribus and decorums were completely untouched... so relatively it is a wimp. Livistona victoriae was fried pretty bad too, but Livistona alfredii just had some leaf burn (OK... lost all but three leaves, but way better than the fulva fared). The L fulva is still alive today, though, as it rebounded well after losing all its leaves.

[gyuseppe]

we got a 2007 cold snap in southern California and my fulva was completely defoliated (it was only about 3' tall, though). Nearby Livistona saribus and decorums were completely untouched... so relatively it is a wimp. Livistona victoriae was fried pretty bad too, but Livistona alfredii just had some leaf burn (OK... lost all but three leaves, but way better than the fulva fared). The L fulva is still alive today, though, as it rebounded well after losing all its leaves.

Geoff know how many degrees the temperature was ?

[peachy]

Gyuseppe, I have some fulvas here, my oldest one survived a frost -5 when he was only very small, with no damage worth mentioning. These are a favourite palm of mine and I have a few of them in pots and in the ground. They grow very quickly with feeding and regular water. My cold winter nights from 0 to -3 dont worry them at all. My tiny ones I protect from the hot summer sun but the big one in the ground takes it without a problem. My big one was only 50cms when I bought it 3 years ago and after I planted it in the ground early last year, it took off and is now 2 metres. For very small seedlings as you have, just protect them from frost and hot sun, cold or heat will do no harm.

Peachy

[gyuseppe]

Peachy and good news.

Livistona fulva but you like ?, or hate you all Livistona species for spines ?

[peachy]

I love my fulvas. Spines are not a problem for me, I have calamus and aiphanes here. (clustering palms I hate) I have L.rotundifolia, robinsonia, jenkensiana, benthamii and many more I want to have. There are some Livis I dont like because they are ugly or too slow growing.

Peachy

[Alberto]

I like Livistonas. I have chinensis,decora, decora x chinensis, saribus, muelleri and want to try more species...

I have your L. mariae waiting to germinate. Which more species I could try here?

Gyuseppe I wanted to understand why your translator , translates the Italian word è with the English word ´´and´´?

´´And true that livistona fulva and very resistant to cold?´´

Correct would be:

´´Is it true that livistona fulva is very resistant to cold?

Now I understand:

-and = ed (tu ed io) or ´´one and a halve´´ (uno e mezzo)

the verb in English is : is = è

If you forgot the ( ` ) on the è the translation will be wrong..... e=and , è = is

In Portuguese E= and and É = is , so it´s almost the same thing!

Italian È = É in Portuguese and E=E !

[gyuseppe]

alberto reason you always I write and instead of is --> how did translation?-good?

Livistona mariae the germination very quickly ! ,Margaret told me that germinated all 10 seeds !that I sent to margaret.but wait you, in brazil now cold !

I have already 15 small Livistona fulva.

alberto maybe next year I will have again the seeds of Livistona fulva , and I will give some seeds to my friends on the forum, but I can not promise anything , if seeds get to me ! I give the seeds to my friends of palmtalk !

[peachy]

Mama mia....do not worry about your translator Guiseppe. I understand what you are writing. My mother has murdered English all of her life, so when all the words don't come in order, I am always able to make sense of it. Every nationality has its own dialect english, when they come to live in an english speaking country. Translator program is just a new dialect to become familiar with.

La vecchia Strega.

Peachy

[M@ximus]

I like Livistonas. I have chinensis,decora, decora x chinensis, saribus, muelleri and want to try more species...

I have your L. mariae waiting to germinate. Which more species I could try here?

Alberto , You can plant without problems Australis, Nitida ( my favourite), Mariae, rigida, lanuginosa, and the not australian carinensis.

If they survive to my climate ..........!!

Also the western australia livistonas as Eastonii,Alfredii,lorophylla, Nasmophila and victoriae ( that grow in an area located between the border with northern terrytory) should grow well, but seeds are inaccesible. I hope just for now!!!

I suggest you the Book Australian Palms of John Leslie Dowe. A bible for Livistona lovers as I am!!

[M@ximus]

I have already 15 small Livistona fulva.

alberto maybe next year I will have again the seeds of Livistona fulva , and I will give some seeds to my friends on the forum, but I can not promise anything , if seeds get to me ! I give the seeds to my friends of palmtalk !

Updated List of Giuseppe friends , in order of importance:

n° 1 M@x

n° 2 Alberto

n° 3 all others

So, when you will get some more seeds of rare Livistona I suggest you to follow the list order before distribute seeds

Best M@x

[Walter John]

I have already 15 small Livistona fulva.

alberto maybe next year I will have again the seeds of Livistona fulva , and I will give some seeds to my friends on the forum, but I can not promise anything , if seeds get to me ! I give the seeds to my friends of palmtalk !

Updated List of Giuseppe friends , in order of importance:

n° 1 M@x

n° 2 Alberto

n° 3 all others

So, when you will get some more seeds of rare Livistona I suggest you to follow the list order before distribute seeds

Best M@x

[gyuseppe]

Updated List of Giuseppe friends , in order of importance:

n° 1 M@x

n° 2 Alberto

n° 3 all others

So, when you will get some more seeds of rare Livistona I suggest you to follow the list order before distribute seeds

Best M@x

I hope that next year I will have these seeds, so as to distribute.

updating : tala-dave my new friend ! I responded to your private message: livistona fulva

[Alberto]

Mi amico Giuseppe, I also understand what you write...no problems. I was only curious why the È was translated by ´´a n d´´ and because of the Portuguese E and É ,I made a little search and found that the Italian words are almost the same as Portguese : E and È.

I forgot to say that I have also L.nitida planted out and growing good.

Once I had seedlings of L.alfredii that rotted. To much humidity in the pot I think!

I´ll try to find seeds or plants of all the hardier Livistonas!

[Geoff]

That winter it got down to around 25F... perhaps 24F, for over 7 hours (very unusual for any sort of freeze to last more than 1/2 hour or so in this area of California)... lost about 1/3 of my entire palm collection, but most were seedlngs. The killer was not so much the low achieved, but how long it stayed down there. The plant rebounded very well, though, making over a leaf a month for the next 8-9 months (got 11 new leaves that year... has slowed down considerably since).

Here it is a few weeks after that fateful freeze... it had been in the ground over a year from a root bound 15 gal and was doing well

and here is a few months ago

[gyuseppe]

Geoff your Livistona fulva and resurrected from the dead ! and I'm happy for you

in my city usually in winter rarely to 28.5 Fahrenheit

[Hillizard]

Finally the three Livistona fulva I started from seed (RPS) years ago have started to push out divided leaflets. They have no problem with intense heat and sun where I am, but I protect them during the winter outdoors. Perhaps when they're larger that will no longer be necessary? I'm looking forward to seeing some color on the leaf undersides in a few more years!