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Foxtail

MattyB

By MattyB
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MattyB Grand Master

MattyB

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I should have known better, but I got this Foxtail after it had already formed a skinny woody trunk in the greenhouse. It's still growing but the trunk doesn't look so good and it's doing that sucking in thing. Is there any chance of survival or should I just get it out now? The rust colored stain stuff I'm not too concerned about. Foxtails seem to do this sometimes. It's the silver fuzz rotting, not pink rot. I am concerned about the skinny trunk.

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Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

MattyB Grand Master

MattyB

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Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Kumar Veteran

Kumar

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Your photographs remind me of the hundreds of foxtails that are planted at short intervals in the road divider over here. Those also form exaggerated long thin stems, due to perhaps the air pollution and are constantly supported by stilts. Most don't look too good and have only 1-2 leaves. Needless to say, since those seem to be surviving, yours most certainly should.

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Kumar

Bombay, India

Sea Level | Average Temperature Range 23 - 32 deg. celsius | Annual rainfall 3400.0 mm

Calcutta, India

Sea Level | Average Temperature Range 19 - 33 deg. celsius | Annual rainfall 1600.0 mm

Davidl Mentor

Davidl

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If you lived in Fl I would say it probably will not make it. In your climate I have no idea if it will survive.

David

Got Palms Mentor

Got Palms

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Matt i lost mine with about 3 feet of clear trunk after about 4 years in the ground it never liked my climate i think because it was imported maybe from Hawaii or Florida on the other hand i was given a five gallon locally grown and placed in the ground at the same time and has never looked back, sorry to see it declining for u also!

redant Grand Master

redant

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I have a couple of thousand seeds on my trees if you want to try a fresh one. It's hard to believe these where considered endangered of something at one point, they seed profusely.

Jupiter FL

in the Zone formally known as 10A

ariscott Grand Master

ariscott

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Cut your losses and start again. Fatten them up while young, and they will look much better...

Regards, Ari :)

Ari & Scott

Darwin, NT, Australia

-12°32'53" 131°10'20"

paulgila Grand Master

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you are never gonna look at that & be happy.just yank it out(the PALM,i mean,jeez!).

so did you get a replacement yet per my sage advice? :mellow:

the "prince of snarkness."

 

still "warning-free."

 

san diego,california,left coast.

MattyB Grand Master

MattyB

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Yes Paul I took your sage advice and washed behind my ears.

I also got this new foxtail in the ground! :drool:

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Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

MattyB Grand Master

MattyB

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Here's the carnage

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I'm a little baffled at the roots. I just leaned the palm over and it came right out, like it never really rooted in good.

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Maybe the chicken wire cage inhibited the roots from spreading out. The mesh is 1" dia so I don't think that's it. And this area has one of my only micro-sprayers so the surface is evenly wet too. Hmmmm

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Stuck it in a pile of dirt to watch it die, for scientific reasons.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

paulgila Grand Master

paulgila

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oh gawd,didja have to show the aftermath!!?!?! ?

:sick:

the "prince of snarkness."

 

still "warning-free."

 

san diego,california,left coast.

MattyB Grand Master

MattyB

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What? That's what all the palms that you give me look like. :winkie:

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

paulgila Grand Master

paulgila

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"give"?

i guess you didnt get the bill yet.

the "prince of snarkness."

 

still "warning-free."

 

san diego,california,left coast.

MattyB Grand Master

MattyB

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Sanford? I'll never get him.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

paulgila Grand Master

paulgila

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yes,bill sanford will come to your house & spray you with cane sugar dr.pepper until you are sticky & sweet & the ants start to slowly eat you alive & vultures feed upon your sugary skin & you beg for mercy unless you pay up. :bemused:

the "prince of snarkness."

 

still "warning-free."

 

san diego,california,left coast.

Walter John Grand Master

Walter John

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I'm guessing Matty that these area a tough grow and that's why you acquire foxtails with trunk formed and.....ah.....i forgot what i was gonna say :unsure:

Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

MattyB Grand Master

MattyB

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Wal, I'd rather the trunk wasn't formed yet, but I do need something a little larger because I want it to be canopy for the Carpoxylon next to it which already has a 3 year head start on it now. This replacement palm was the shortest, fattest one I could find. As long as it doesn't have 4 feet of clear trunk it can still fatten up nicely like my others did.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

ariscott Grand Master

ariscott

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Actually... I find that they are much better if they are younger. I planted 4 young ones - only about 30cm high (a foot for you imperial people), and lost one :angry: . So, I planted one slightly larger one to replace it, and now the 3 that I planted originally are much bigger & fatter than the new one... And they get the same treatment, water, fertiliser, etc, etc.

Regards, Ari :)

Ari & Scott

Darwin, NT, Australia

-12°32'53" 131°10'20"

MattyB Grand Master

MattyB

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Yeah, I understand Ari. I have a few small ones I grew from seed, about 25cm tall, but I needed them to be over the top of the Carpoxylon already. The troubles when canopy dies. Oh well, I don't mind a skinnier one as long as it gets tall and lives.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

ariscott Grand Master

ariscott

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Yeah... annoying Carpoxylon. So much for 'can take full sun'!!! They can't take full sun here either...

Regards, Ari :)

Ari & Scott

Darwin, NT, Australia

-12°32'53" 131°10'20"

MattyB Grand Master

MattyB

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Really? You must get really hot. I thought your humidity would help.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

ariscott Grand Master

ariscott

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I thought so too.... but no!!! I lost 2 to sun exposure... I still have 3, one growing under a tree, one under 30% shade, and one next to a shadehouse... We get to 37deg C (I am being nice at the moment - about 98deg F), but usually humidity is high... So now, no more full sun for them....

Regards, Ari :)

Ari & Scott

Darwin, NT, Australia

-12°32'53" 131°10'20"

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