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The Sealing Wax Project

RainForestt Robert

By RainForestt Robert
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RainForestt Robert Mentor

RainForestt Robert

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I've been growing C. renda, one of my favorite palms, for a few years now. They are maddeningly slow from seed, and, unless the seeds are fresh, germination can be erratic. A couple of years ago I took a palm jaunt of a lifetime to Costa Rica with the IPS and just was able to collect a few C. renda seed. Read all about it here. IPS Costa Rica Biennial

A couple of photos courtesy of Ryan, Palmarum

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Even after sharing seed with the bus mates and others back at the hotel I ended up with a ton of seed.

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Trinidad!  Southernmost island in the Caribbean.

So many plants, So little space.

RainForestt Robert Mentor

RainForestt Robert

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All those seeds turned into a lot of seedlings. Germination must have been over 90%. They got no special treatment. I placed them in grape boxes filled with a ProMix peat and rice husk mix. In the past I have used the baggy method, where the seeds were placed in a bag with sphagnum moss. It was tedious checking the bag every few days. The bag method is most appropriate for a few seeds.

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A couple of months later ....

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Trinidad!  Southernmost island in the Caribbean.

So many plants, So little space.

BS Man about Palms Grand Master

BS Man about Palms

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I remember that!! I snapped pix of you using your camera! That was an awesome trip!!!!

You gonna spray paint them red?

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

Walter John Grand Master

Walter John

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If only... :(

Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

bgl Grand Master

bgl

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Robert,

How could we ever forget that impromptu stop! And what a day that was! Unforgettable! So, what are your plans now for all of these thousands of Cyrtostachys renda seedlings? Once you get them all up to 5 gallon size pots, they'll be worth a lot of money! :) Just curious how much space you have in your backyard! :rolleyes:

Bo-Göran

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Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

dalmatiansoap Grand Master

dalmatiansoap

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hmm, well, patience is a virtue,...

well done Robert

Jim in Los Altos Grand Master

Jim in Los Altos

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I'm jealous! :drool:

Jim in Los Altos, CA  SF Bay Area 37.34N- 122.13W- 190' above sea level

zone 10a/9b

sunset zone 16

300+ palms, 90+ species in the ground

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Rusty on Pine Is. Mentor

Rusty on Pine Is.

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Ah, but to dream..but to dream.....

Wow, what a haul!...continued success with them!

Rusty

Rusty Bell

Pine Island - the Ex-Pat part of Lee County, Fl , USA

Zone 10b, life in the subs!...except when it isn't....

DoomsDave Grand Master

DoomsDave

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Oh, what a loverly haul!

Of course, they're toast along the La La Coast . . . . :(

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malcthomas Community Regular

malcthomas

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If only... :(

c'mon Wal..these are just up the road from you...

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bubba Grand Master

bubba

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Thank you for the great tour as well as the trip through the Orchid Society and other journeys.

What you look for is what is looking

aussiearoids Grand Master

aussiearoids

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Mal , haven't you seen Wals ripper Lippy ? :mrlooney:

Its growing very well .

Michael in palm paradise,

Tully, wet tropics in Australia, over 4 meters of rain every year.

Home of the Golden Gumboot, its over 8m high , our record annual rainfall.

RainForestt Robert Mentor

RainForestt Robert

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With the excellent germination rates the problem that has arisen is one of logistics. How do I house and progress these palms through a variety of sizes until they get to 5, 7 or 10 gallon size like these, which I have grown for a couple years more.

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My growing is space is also very limited. I guess that's why this is a "project".

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Trinidad!  Southernmost island in the Caribbean.

So many plants, So little space.

RainForestt Robert Mentor

RainForestt Robert

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Potted Cyrtostachys renda can be very attractive. This specimen sits at the curb of my home. It was in this 1/2 barrel when I bought it about 8 years ago. It is root bound and would probably benefit from being planted out. However, it makes a nice addition to displays at horticultural shows, and I am hoping that it will increase sales of seedlings at plant shows in the next couple of months.

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Trinidad!  Southernmost island in the Caribbean.

So many plants, So little space.

WestCoastGal Grand Master

WestCoastGal

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RainForestt Robert that is some collection of Red Sealing Wax palms there! They look gorgeous, wish they were an option for me. I was surprised at how strong those narrow trunks were for you guys to climb up. They look like they would be more willowy.

BTW Malcthomas, I'm blown away by your photo. Is that your house there? If the lipstick palms weren't eye-catching enough, that silver grey palm next to them is magnificent. Wow.

Zone 9b (formerly listed as Zone 9a); Sunset 14

carver Rising Star

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Just an idea, but I have found that 16oz. water bottles upside down with the bottom cut off make excellent liners, I can fit about 16-20 bottles in a 7gal. pot. Nice thing about them is they are about as deep as 1 gal. pot so they can push those roots down, plus they're freepost-4880-017897100 1292824164_thumb.jpg. Here is one of my baby royals about 3 months old.

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Sutter Bob Proficient

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Beautiful palms. Keep up the good work. I'm not giving up on the seven I've got struggling up here in the harsh mid latitudes.

It would be great to find a strain that could manage as an indoor plant. Continuous fluorescent lighting seems to help here.

Kris Grand Master

Kris

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Beautiful visuals.....:drool:

love conquers all..

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Jim in Los Altos Grand Master

Jim in Los Altos

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RainForestt Robert that is some collection of Red Sealing Wax palms there! They look gorgeous, wish they were an option for me. I was surprised at how strong those narrow trunks were for you guys to climb up. They look like they would be more willowy.

BTW Malcthomas, I'm blown away by your photo. Is that your house there? If the lipstick palms weren't eye-catching enough, that silver grey palm next to them is magnificent. Wow.

Debbie, That gorgeous blue gray palm is a Bismarckia nobilis. Some of us are growing these in the Bay Area. Mine's about 10 feet tall and wide now and forming trunk after being planted from a ten gallon container four years ago. You might get away with one in your garden since they love heat and tolerate our cool winters well.

Jim in Los Altos, CA  SF Bay Area 37.34N- 122.13W- 190' above sea level

zone 10a/9b

sunset zone 16

300+ palms, 90+ species in the ground

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The Germinator Mentor

The Germinator

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Oh, what a loverly haul!

Of course, they're toast along the La La Coast . . . . :(

This makes me wonder will they make good house plants in Cali? I have a Christmas Palm doing quite well in my cube at work. I wonder if these would work.

Ed Mijares

Whittier, Ca

Psyco Palm Collector Wheeler Dealer

Zone 10a?

BermudaPalm Contributor

BermudaPalm

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Absolutely brilliant !!! I started this hobby in May this year and ordered some C. Renda from RPS. I soaked them for 3 days, cleaned them up and put them in a 3x3 pot in 1:1 sphagnum moss:Perlite mix.

The pot has been sitting on my DSL modem (85-90F) for 5 months. I spray the surface every few days, and there is no sign of life sad.gif. Is this normal for these seeds? I'm VERY tempted to order another batch

and start over.

Bermuda (32N 64W)

Subtropical Zone 11, no frost

Humidity (77% ave.)

Warm Season: (May-Nov): Max/Min 88F/73F

Cool Season: (Dec-Apr): Max/Min 70F/62F

Wet season Dec-April.

"What happens to you does not matter; what you become through those experiences is all that is significant. This is the true meaning of life."

malcthomas Community Regular

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Mal , haven't you seen Wals ripper Lippy ? :mrlooney:

Its growing very well .

Mike....no I haven't, but I guess they grow like weeds where you are...

"BTW Malcthomas, I'm blown away by your photo. Is that your house there? If the lipstick palms weren't eye-catching enough, that silver grey palm next to them is magnificent. Wow."

Debbie....no not mine, photo taken in Queensland....zoom in on the pic and check out the silver palm on the gate....

cheers...

WestCoastGal Grand Master

WestCoastGal

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RainForestt Robert that is some collection of Red Sealing Wax palms there! They look gorgeous, wish they were an option for me. I was surprised at how strong those narrow trunks were for you guys to climb up. They look like they would be more willowy.

BTW Malcthomas, I'm blown away by your photo. Is that your house there? If the lipstick palms weren't eye-catching enough, that silver grey palm next to them is magnificent. Wow.

Debbie, That gorgeous blue gray palm is a Bismarckia nobilis. Some of us are growing these in the Bay Area. Mine's about 10 feet tall and wide now and forming trunk after being planted from a ten gallon container four years ago. You might get away with one in your garden since they love heat and tolerate our cool winters well.

Thanks Jim. I wasn't sure what it was. I saw a boxed one at Sal's nursery just a week ago. His was probably 10 feet or more too. I pointed it out to my husband too. Stunning fronds. I don't think I've ever seen one as large as the one in the above photo though. Have you posted pics of yours? Given the small size of my planting beds, the fact that I have walkways or seating areas close to the beds, and how large those guys get, I don't think I'd be able to work one in. Appreciate the feedback though. Those red sealing wax guys would fit if not for the zone restriction.

Zone 9b (formerly listed as Zone 9a); Sunset 14

aussiearoids Grand Master

aussiearoids

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Nice little downpour here is giving Wals Lippy what it wants .. just taken from the car-port .. post-354-062331300 1292917784_thumb.jpg

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now if you can find a bit of swamp somewhere Robert ,,, thats what these like , water , and lots of it :lol:

Michael in palm paradise,

Tully, wet tropics in Australia, over 4 meters of rain every year.

Home of the Golden Gumboot, its over 8m high , our record annual rainfall.

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JT in Japan Experienced

JT in Japan

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Bump. I just bought C. Renda seeds, and by coincidence stumbled on this post. I haven't seen a post by Robert recently. Does anyone know the outcome of this project, now 5 years old?

JT

Shimoda, Japan, Lat: 36.6N, Long: 138.8

Zone 9B (kinda, sorta), Pacific Coast, 1Km inland, 75M above sea level
Coldest lows (Jan): 2-5C (35-41F), Hottest highs (Aug): 32-33C (87-91F)

Moose Grand Master

Moose

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Oh what great memories as Jeff Searle and I lend Robert a hand. The property is a bed and breakfast owned by a guy originally from Fort Myers, Florida. John - Thank you for the excellent bump.

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Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

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