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how NOT to prune Sabal palmetto


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Posted

I drove by this office building near my house this weekend and saw this scene of horror. Nice pruning job on the Sabal palmetto

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Eric

Orlando, FL

zone 9b/10a

Posted

What were they thinking? That looks awful and will take a long time to grow out and look good again.

Martin Farris, San Angelo, TX

San Angelo Cold Hardy Palms and Cycads

Jul - 92F/69F, Jan - 55F/31F

Lows:

02-03: 18F;

03-04: 19F;

04-05: 17F;

05-06: 11F;

06-07: 13F;

07-08: 14F 147.5 Freezing Degree-Hours http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?sh...ee+hours\;

08-09: 23F;

09-10: 12F 467.6 Freezing Degree Hours, Average Temperature During Freeze 24.2F;

10-11: 13F 1,059.5 Freezing Degree Hours with Strong Winds/Rain/Snow/Sleet, Average Temperature During Freeze 19.4F;

Record low -4F in 1989 (High of 36F that p.m.) 1,125.2 freezing degree hours, Average Temperature During Freeze 13.6F;

Record Freeze 1983: 2,300.3 Freezing Degree Hours with a low of 5F, Average Temperature During Freeze 13.7F.

Posted

Obviously they were not thinking

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Bombay, India

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Calcutta, India

Sea Level | Average Temperature Range 19 - 33 deg. celsius | Annual rainfall 1600.0 mm

Posted

The beloved hurricane cut, horrible! I dont know how they can call themselves an arborist and do this. Wait a few years and see what the trunk looks like. I worked for a guy that swore phoenix looked better with what he called the "diamond cut". Few years later heads were fallin off, should have been his.:rage:

Posted

The beloved hurricane cut, horrible! I dont know how they can call themselves an arborist and do this. Wait a few years and see what the trunk looks like. I worked for a guy that swore phoenix looked better with what he called the "diamond cut". Few years later heads were fallin off, should have been his.:rage:

A one time butchering probably won't cause any harm but if this becomes a regular procedure by these mouth breathing laborers for this landscape then it will be a problem.

Eric

Orlando, FL

zone 9b/10a

Posted

ROFLMAO!....Really! Thats the worst pruning job I've ever seen. "A fool and their money are easily parted"...or maybe another cliche applies..."You get what you pay for"!

Land O Lakes FL, a suburb on the North Side of Tampa, FL

Summers are great, 90f/32c in the day & 70f/21c at night with plentiful rain & sun

Winters are subtropical with occasional frosts and freezes. Tropical cyclones happen.

We have a few Royal palms in the warm microclimates but Coconuts freeze.

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Posted

Wow!!! can you actually stop there and ask who decided to do that? who actually said "yes" to cut them like that hahaha thats ridiculous. I would love to see the landscaper who did it and find out his reasoning behind doing that!

Posted

Hello Eric

These Sabal grew there before?, or recent transplants?

Sabal sp. is pruned in this way when they are transplanted.

This cut seem a "Punk cut"

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The beloved hurricane cut, horrible! I dont know how they can call themselves an arborist and do this. Wait a few years and see what the trunk looks like. I worked for a guy that swore phoenix looked better with what he called the "diamond cut". Few years later heads were fallin off, should have been his.:rage:

A one time butchering probably won't cause any harm but if this becomes a regular procedure by these mouth breathing laborers for this landscape then it will be a problem.

Mouth breathing? :floor:

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Posted

Mouth Breathers :D

The sad thing is that I've seen worse. I see this all over the place.

Jeff

North Florida

Posted

They were looking for coconuts. They should have tried Ft. Lauderdale.

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Frank

 

Zone 9b pine flatlands

humid/hot summers; dry/cool winters

with yearly freezes

Posted

The beloved hurricane cut, horrible! I dont know how they can call themselves an arborist and do this. Wait a few years and see what the trunk looks like. I worked for a guy that swore phoenix looked better with what he called the "diamond cut". Few years later heads were fallin off, should have been his.:rage:

A one time butchering probably won't cause any harm but if this becomes a regular procedure by these mouth breathing laborers for this landscape then it will be a problem.

Mouth breathing? :floor:

That was the problem he apparently took care of the property with falling heads for a few years and last time I drove by the sylvestri clump two heads were missing and their were these skinny rings in the trunk where it looked like the palm had been constricted, I agree with the mouth breather part. Unfortunately if you have a chainsaw and half a brain you can call yourself an arborist in Fl.

Posted

Hello Eric

These Sabal grew there before?, or recent transplants?

Sabal sp. is pruned in this way when they are transplanted.

This cut seem a "Punk cut"

regards

That's the first thing I thought and, if so, it isn't the nightmare it seems. Anyone know if those Sabal are new or if they've been there a long time?

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Posted

thats the first thing i thought also being new transplants especially cuz the mulch was new. but i figured since Eric lives there and drives past it he knew they have been growing there. thats obviously the "classic hurricane cut" when transplanting. but if they have been there for years and then cut like this thats just too crazy.

Posted

Great description. Over and over again, I see examples of that here.

Unfortunately if you have a chainsaw and half a brain you can call yourself an arborist in Fl.

Tom
Mid-Pinellas (St. Petersburg) Florida, USA

Member of Palm Society 1973-2012
Gizella Kopsick Palm Arboretum development 1977-1991
Chapter President 1983-84
Palm Society Director 1984-88

Posted

thats the first thing i thought also being new transplants especially cuz the mulch was new. but i figured since Eric lives there and drives past it he knew they have been growing there. thats obviously the "classic hurricane cut" when transplanting. but if they have been there for years and then cut like this thats just too crazy.

Unfortunately, no. The new transplants mostly have the clean, woody colored trunks while the ones in the picture have the blackish, weathered look. New transplants for commercial settings are easily recognized: straight, shorter, and with the upper half boots still in.

Frank

 

Zone 9b pine flatlands

humid/hot summers; dry/cool winters

with yearly freezes

Posted

Is a pruning really extreme

Southern Calabria on the Tyrrhenian sea (Italy)

Zone 9b - NO FROST

Posted

Thats really bad... I want to see the reaction of the owner LOL. It looks like they just chopped off the tops of em

Meteorologist and PhD student in Climate Science

Posted

That's how they would look in Tampa if they were within 20' of a power line once the city "arborists" got hold of 'em :rage:

52% 9B / 42% 10A / 6% "Other"

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Posted

They look absolutely as though they've been in front of that building for a long time. In my town, the city government quit butchering its palms (maybe to save money) while Walmart of all places is very good about leaving its palmettos nice and plush.

I didn't take a photo of a one-leafed Chamaerops next to the lifeguard station in La Jolla. A couple or three years later, a friend visited, checked the palm, and found it thriving with a full head of leaves.

Fla. climate center: 100-119 days>85 F
USDA 1990 hardiness zone 9B
Current USDA hardiness zone 10a
4 km inland from Indian River; 27º N (equivalent to Brisbane)

Central Orlando's urban heat island may be warmer than us

Posted

this is the stupidity of the neighbor who planted the palm under the power line and the brutality of the electric company workers

who came first? ... the chicken or the egg?

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Posted

They have been there a long time, they aren't recent transplants

Eric

Orlando, FL

zone 9b/10a

Posted

Here the landscape crews seem to obsess over pruning the "living" daylights out of needle palms and serenoa repens. I've been watching a really nice needle palm in front of our local Barnes & Noble. Once they started chopping on it, they kept it to a max of three leaves, then eventually one. Now it's dead after 5 years of that. I'm still trying to figure out how a stump looks good in the lush landscaping around the store, and, yes, the needle palm was planted there as part of the landscaping. Totally baffles my mind.

Posted

Eric - it would be interesting to e-mail a link to this thread to the business. :rolleyes:

Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

Posted

That is just nuts. Mouth breathing? More like they were not breathing at all and what little brains that had were deprived of oxygen. Maybe they didn't have any brain at all. I would definitely show the business, or whoever is in charge of the landscaping, this thread. Those things look awful. What a shame.

As for the tree planted under the power lines, well, if the lines were already there and the tree was planted, then perhaps using a short tree like a P. Roebelenii would have been more appropriate.

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As for the tree planted under the power lines, well, if the lines were already there and the tree was planted, then perhaps using a short tree like a P. Roebelenii would have been more appropriate.

I agree with you But they could have transplanted that Roystonea

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As for the tree planted under the power lines, well, if the lines were already there and the tree was planted, then perhaps using a short tree like a P. Roebelenii would have been more appropriate.

I agree with you But they could have transplanted that Roystonea

Yep, Take it out, move it, and replace it with a P. Roebelenii or some other some such small sized palm, or even just a regular old small dicot tree.

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