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Question About Mule Palm

Joey Powell

By Joey Powell
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Joey Powell Enthusiast

Joey Powell

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I have a mule palm, about seven feet tall that I got from Frank at Moultrie Palms. I planted it over two years ago, maybe three.

This tree was VERY HEALTHY. It was pushing new, big fronds and looked execellent. Then one day during July last summer the frond thas was being pushed suddenly turned yellow and pulled out.

I have no theory what caused this. It was so hot and dry. I'm pretty sure I did not give it too much water. Maybe I put too much Chelated Palm (diluted per the instructions) on it??? Again, I doubt it.

Anyways, it is now nine months later, and there have been no new fronds. I continue to be patient, though with very little remaining optimism.

The tree still looks good. It's still green and firmly rooted into the ground.

For about the last eight weeks I have alternated applying a small amount of fungicide and peroxide (one and then wait two weeks, and then the other, and then wait two weeks etc...)

I have a smaller Mule palm that has suffered from spear pull the last two years. For it, last year it came back strong. And this year it is already pushing new fronds.

But what about the big Mule Palm?

I would like you all to give me your opinion. Will the big one survive?

7 miles SSE of Enterprise, Alabama USA, 67 miles from Gulf of Mexico Zone 8b USDA 2012
Lowest recorded temps in my yard (Deg F): 2007/2008 - 20.5 2008/2009 - 19.8 2009/2010 - 15.3 2010/2011 - 19.2 2011/2012 - 19.9 2012/2013 - 24.9 2013/2014 - 11.8 2014/2015 - 13.8
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Mandrew968 Grand Master

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Nine months is a long time! That's how long my son took to come out of my wife--If you have seen no activity for that long, then I'm sorry to say, but I'd bet it's dead. My neighbor's Heterospathe had a spear pull from cold, one year and it took over a year for the other fronds to start browning. That plant never came back--Sorry to be the first to report back to you...

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sarasota alex

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I agree with Andrew nine months is a long time. We have some Adonidias in Sarasota that didn't start coming back from the Jan 2010 cold until August of last year. That's seven months and it's the longest that I've seen. But my experience is very limited.

Ken Johnson Grand Master

Ken Johnson

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If the rest of the palm is strong do not give up hope. The dead tissue may be deep but not to the meristem.

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DoomsDave Grand Master

DoomsDave

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Joey:

Hmm.

On the one hand, your plant sounds healthy, except for the spear pull.

And, you've been doing right by giving it peroxide and fungicide. It sure can't hurt.

But, on the other hand, nine months is a long time. Your concern is certainly understandable.

That said, keep waiting, keep applying. Mules live up to the "stubborn" and "tough" connotations of their names.

I've had palms take FOREEVER to snap out of bad stuff. Sometimes months.

Don't worry about overwatering your plant unless you literally drown it. As long as it's not in a swamp, the more water the better, especially now that we're getting well along into spring.

Danger signals indicating futility of further efforts include: rotting at the base of the plant, or tipping over caused by rotting roots; leaves browning a lot; plant gets loose in the ground, i.e., it wobbles when you nudge it firmly it with your toe.

If you can, sneak a peek into the hole where the spear was with a flashlight. You might see the new spear pushing up.

Sometimes, more drastic surgery is needed, but take a look and see, report back, and we'll take it from there.

When the new leaf does appear, it might be a little gnarly-looking. Don't worry, as long as it's nice and green, the new leaves that follow should be normal.

Keep us apprized.

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DoomsDave Grand Master

DoomsDave

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Joey:

Just thinking a bit . . . .

If you can, take some pictures of your plant. In particular, take both "full monty" shots of the whole thing from at least two or three sides, plus close-ups of the base.

Nine months is a while, and I'm curious to have a look at your plant.

Let's keep our forum fun and friendly.

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Joey Powell Enthusiast

Joey Powell

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Okay, I just took a couple of pictures. The tree is actually closer to seven or eight feet tall. All of these fronds are at least nine months old...

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Also, I took my MagLite, focused a tight beam, shined it down inside the trunk, and took the following picture...

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As you can see, there is nothing going on in there!!!

Opinions?...

7 miles SSE of Enterprise, Alabama USA, 67 miles from Gulf of Mexico Zone 8b USDA 2012
Lowest recorded temps in my yard (Deg F): 2007/2008 - 20.5 2008/2009 - 19.8 2009/2010 - 15.3 2010/2011 - 19.2 2011/2012 - 19.9 2012/2013 - 24.9 2013/2014 - 11.8 2014/2015 - 13.8
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Joey Powell Enthusiast

Joey Powell

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I just mixed about 3oz of Physan 20 with another 9oz of tap water, and then I poured all of it down into the trunk. I decided to increase the dosage. I had only been putting a few drops in there the last few times...

7 miles SSE of Enterprise, Alabama USA, 67 miles from Gulf of Mexico Zone 8b USDA 2012
Lowest recorded temps in my yard (Deg F): 2007/2008 - 20.5 2008/2009 - 19.8 2009/2010 - 15.3 2010/2011 - 19.2 2011/2012 - 19.9 2012/2013 - 24.9 2013/2014 - 11.8 2014/2015 - 13.8
Friend me on facebook at facebook.com/joeympowell

TimHopper Proficient

TimHopper

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It doesn't look that bad to me. I think it will come back.

Tim Hopper

St Augustine Florida

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DoomsDave Grand Master

DoomsDave

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I think your palm rocks

For now, at least

Keep postin' brotha

Let's keep our forum fun and friendly.

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Mandrew968 Grand Master

Mandrew968

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I think that those other leaves don't look as healthy as I would want them to look, Joey--I see the yellow creaping in, and that is what my neighbor's heterospathe did... :unsure:

tank Grand Master

tank

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Joey,

Don't give up until the plant is clearly dead (ie. no green anywhere). These plants are especially resilient. If it was a "deep" pull, it may take some time to recover. Also, The fact that we had a pretty bad winter during your spear pull may have set the recovery back a little. Keep applying the peroxide.

I'm assuming some of the beat up look to the leaves came from last winter's chill?

Jason

Gainesville, Florida

DoomsDave Grand Master

DoomsDave

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JOey:

Follow Tank's advice.

He's from your neck of the woods, and keep us apprized.

Let's keep our forum fun and friendly.

Any data in this post is provided 'as is' and in no event shall I be liable for any damages, including, without limitation, damages resulting from accuracy or lack thereof, insult, or lost profits or revenue, claims by third parties or for other similar costs, or any special, incidental, or consequential damages arising out of my opinion or the use of this data. The accuracy or reliability of the data is not guaranteed or warranted in any way and I disclaim liability of any kind whatsoever, including, without limitation, liability for quality, performance, merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose arising out of the use, or inability to use my data. Other terms may apply.

Mark Heath Veteran

Mark Heath

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Joey,

Good luck w/ your baby! I would hit it hard w/ water and palm fertilizer and hope for the best. You have done all that is required so far and i wish you luck.

Be patient,

Mark

Orlando, Florida

zone 9b

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